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Skwirl posted:I'm going to just say it, if you are a TERF you aren't actually a feminist. Better people than me have made this point (or similar), but if you exclude any kind of women from your brand of feminism then you're not looking to break the whatever social forces oppress women, you're just trying to extend their supremacy to yourself and your chosen few.
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check out my Youtube posted:Better people than me have made this point (or similar), but if you exclude any kind of women from your brand of feminism then you're not looking to break the whatever social forces oppress women, you're just trying to extend their supremacy to yourself and your chosen few. Lol that’s insanely dumb. Because that describes terfs.
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Apr 8, 2018 02:13
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Isn't it easier to just accept that some brands of feminism are not perfect?
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accept the oppressors or else you're an oppressor yourself
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Apr 8, 2018 02:15
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Tolerate my intolerance indeed.
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Apr 8, 2018 02:15
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:accept the oppressors or else you're an oppressor yourself But the rules don’t apply to them for reason?
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Apr 8, 2018 02:17
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lol that’s insanely dumb. Exactly?
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Apr 8, 2018 02:41
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Isn't it easier to just accept that some brands of feminism are not perfect? Not perfect makes it sound like they just have this little problem. TERFS are lovely feminists if anything.
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there wolf posted:Not perfect makes it sound like they just have this little problem. TERFS are lovely feminists if anything. Fine, then some feminists are lovely. This whole "no true feminist" thing is getting stale. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Fine, then some feminists are lovely. This whole "no true feminist" thing is getting stale. I think it’s fair to call a group that specifically excludes certain women from the movement non feminist is pretty fair. Unless you have something to say about trans women.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Fine, then some feminists are lovely. This whole "no true feminist" thing is getting stale. I think it's more widely defined as if your feminist doesn't leave room for intersectionality then your motivations are probably way off.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lol that’s insanely dumb. By your response I dunno if I was being unclear so to make a short story long: I am not saying Skwirl is wrong for excluding TERFs, I am agreeing with Skwirl that TERFs aren't feminists. TERFs aren't looking to end the oppression of women they just want to align cis women with the oppressors.
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check out my Youtube posted:By your response I dunno if I was being unclear so to make a short story long: I am not saying Skwirl is wrong for excluding TERFs, I am agreeing with Skwirl that TERFs aren't feminists. TERFs aren't looking to end the oppression of women they just want to align cis women with the oppressors. That’s fair, I thought you were using it as a defense of Terfs as I have seen it used before.
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Apr 8, 2018 02:56
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I did not mean to start this when I posted that reply.
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Apr 8, 2018 02:56
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I went from never having heard the term TERF ever in my life to reading it every 5 posts on this site now. Did someone on a podcast everyone listens to say it and now its the buzzword of the moment or something? I'm not saying the term is useless or anything, but seeing it so often now after never reading on here before just seems so weird.
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enigmahfc posted:I went from never having heard the term TERF ever in my life to reading it every 5 posts on this site now. Did someone on a podcast every listens to say it and now its the buzzword of the moment or something? It just means a feminist who hates trans people. Of course you are gonna here it more as trans issues become more focused on.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think it’s fair to call a group that specifically excludes certain women from the movement non feminist is pretty fair. I don't think it's fair to rule out whole swaths of feminists as feminists because I don't approve of what they think of or how they treat trans women (and trans men, if they even acknowledge them). I think it's an attempt to whittle down terms like "feminist" into strictly positive but almost one-dimensional identities when the real history and present of it are way more complicated.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't think it's fair to rule out whole swaths of feminists as feminists because I don't approve of what they think of or how they treat trans women (and trans men, if they even acknowledge them). I think it's an attempt to whittle down terms like "feminist" into strictly positive but almost one-dimensional identities when the real history and present of it are way more complicated. Lol what the gently caress is this. Did you just apply the confederate argument to feminism.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:03
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CharlestheHammer posted:That’s fair, I thought you were using it as a defense of Terfs as I have seen it used before. I mean TERFs aren't excluded from intersectional feminism and they're free to reap the benefits, they just might not get to police who is or isn't a woman or campaign against the human rights of women. We all have to make small concessions in life.
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check out my Youtube posted:I mean TERFs aren't excluded from intersectional feminism and they're free to reap the benefits, they just might not get to police who is or isn't a woman or campaign against the human rights of women. We all have to make small concessions in life. So what, you're going to erase any progress made by a feminist like, I don't know, Gloria Steinem just because she's a TERF? What's next, pretending the suffragettes did nothing because many of their leaders in the US were bigots?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:So what, you're going to erase any progress made by a feminist like, I don't know, Gloria Steinem just because she's a TERF? What's next, pretending the suffragettes did nothing because many of their leaders in the US were bigots? Are you doing a bit? This is kind of embarrassing to watch.
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 Here's some idiocy on social media: people trying to carsplain to William Shatner: https://twitter.com/quadraticadder/status/982799064054972416 https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/982799632567644160 https://twitter.com/Moto_TowDaytona/status/982801006953148416 https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/982802197833371648
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Apr 8, 2018 03:17
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Should we know that William Shatner is good at cars? Not checking Wikipedia...
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Cavenagh posted:They're really very different. Canadian Bacon is cylindrical. Back Bacon is the natural shape of the loin plus some belly. Back Bacon is a rasher, Canadian Bacon is a slice of lean ham. In a desperate attempt to get away from TERF Chat: Canadian bacon is literally made from back bacon. It's the eye of the loin, which is the big thick chunk of muscle in back bacon. If you go to "Canadian bacon" on Wikipedia it redirects to back bacon. Like, I get that they're not the same thing, but claiming they're unrelated is just wrong.
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WrenP-Complete posted:Should we know that William Shatner is good at cars? Not checking Wikipedia... It's more that after the first time he rolled his eyes at someone explaining this to him, they should have gotten the hint. BUT NOPE
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Apr 8, 2018 03:26
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You can get an English bacon sandwich at Tea and Sympathy in New York. Also beans on toast and other English teatime things.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:27
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Shatner getting fake geek girl tested is my new favorite internet thing.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:54
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I’m a terf exclusionary radical feminist
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Apr 8, 2018 03:57
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WrenP-Complete posted:Should we know that William Shatner is good at cars? Not checking Wikipedia... Yeah, I’m the most lacking in car knowledge person on the planet and I could tell you what gullwing and suicide doors are. What dummies. AlbieQuirky posted:You can get an English bacon sandwich at Tea and Sympathy in New York. Also beans on toast and other English teatime things. Enough to make me consider a trip back to nyc. I’ll hold the baked beans tho.
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We should 🔫🔪😤😤kill off ☠☠ all the 👨👨👦 men 👨👨👦 and the ❌😭non😡👿-feminists 💁💁 and then ✔️use all the 💦💦😘 sperm 😍💦💦 from the 💦 sperm 💦🏦💸🏧banks💰💵 to 👩👩👦👩👩👧 repopulate 👩👩👦👩👩👧 and then the 🔮 future 📅 👶🏿 generation 👶🏼 will have been ⬆️raised⬆️ solely by 💁💁women💁💁 and we will have 💯created💯 a 🙅🏼feminist🙅🏿utopia 🇺🇸FREE🇺🇸🎉 from 👉👌gently caress 👌👈 👱boys👱
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Apr 8, 2018 04:52
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I know what suicide booths are. No clue about suicide doors.
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https://twitter.com/historyinflicks/status/982834124506501120
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If you look up the definition of a wet sponge in a dictionary his profile picture would be the first reference image listed
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More commentary on idiocy on social media, but... https://twitter.com/whilefun/status/982290104440901635
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As the winner of the argument by forfeit I'll claim the prize of last word. ...mods?
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Apr 8, 2018 07:17
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"Alas this will never be reality because of my inceldom" Dude has a real good handle on cause and effect.
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Apr 8, 2018 07:18
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*in a matrixy voice* "whoa is me"
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The Saddest Rhino posted:We should 🔫🔪😤😤kill off ☠☠ all the 👨👨👦 men 👨👨👦 and the ❌😭non😡👿-feminists 💁💁 and then ✔️use all the 💦💦😘 sperm 😍💦💦 from the 💦 sperm 💦🏦💸🏧banks💰💵 to 👩👩👦👩👩👧 repopulate 👩👩👦👩👩👧 and then the 🔮 future 📅 👶🏿 generation 👶🏼 will have been ⬆️raised⬆️ solely by 💁💁women💁💁 and we will have 💯created💯 a 🙅🏼feminist🙅🏿utopia 🇺🇸FREE🇺🇸🎉 from 👉👌gently caress 👌👈 👱boys👱 Honestly, not the worst idea I've heard today.
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