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Count Jackula went off the deep end REALLY loving quickly and got turfed from Channel Awesome for being a legit crazy person. Literally the last video he uploaded on the site before he got bounced had a giant swastika on the thumbnail with no context. And the one that preceded that one was "Yeah, Carrie Fisher's dead, but HOLY gently caress I jacked off a lot to Slave Leia from Return of the Jedi as a kid." So yeah, I don't care what Count Jackula has to say about literally anything.
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DoctorGonzo1969 posted:I think you mean Count Jackula, right? I watched a couple of his videos, I thought he was alright until I heard of him blasting Dan Olson for the Ghostbusters reboot controversy. Something about Dan calling James Rolfe a misogynist and Jackula getting pissed off about it. I remember he'd left the day after going on some Twitter tirade about how him and Horror Guru were the only two people on Channel Awesome supporting PewDiePie. Yeah, that's him. He ends his video by saying that Dan was an underhanded sneak for writing an article about how 8chan was full of child pornography, because he was really going after gamergate but did it by trying to take away their website instead of just criticizing them openly. He also repeats the 4chan talking point of Dan being a pedophile for writing an article about 8chan being full of child pornography. He seems like an incredibly bitter person who has never forgotten a single slight, no matter how small or imagined. It's just more validation for the observation that people who make a point of saying that they don't do drama are in fact hugely toxic people who cause all their own problems.
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Just checked, and there are currently 18 people listed on the site as producers (technically there should be no more than 17, because Nash announced he's leaving). We're getting close to a third left of the amount of people on the site when this whole thing started.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:17
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TheMaestroso posted:Just checked, and there are currently 18 people listed on the site as producers (technically there should be no more than 17, because Nash announced he's leaving). We're getting close to a third left of the amount of people on the site when this whole thing started. It's getting to the point the whole business is just about done if it keeps up, because staying looks more and more like solidarity with the Walkers and Michaud than just staying for views/community.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:24
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Superbunnyhop did (another?) VR video, and it's shockingly positive coming from him. Price ranges are gonna have to fall way, way down for that stuff to be more than something that exists out there, I guess for me though.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:27
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Oh hey guys was offline for a couple hours seeing Pacific Rim: Uprising. Pro watch. Anyways, in that relatively short timespan, on a weekend no less, has anything interesting happen--TheMaestroso posted:So, the count of people who have left CA today appears to be: fuuuuuuuuuu
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Apr 8, 2018 03:28
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Motto posted:Superbunnyhop did (another?) VR video, and it's shockingly positive coming from him. Price ranges are gonna have to fall way, way down for that stuff to be more than something that exists out there, I guess for me though. VR is still very much in the enthusiast range, but the stand-alone headsets should help in the long-term. Part of what helps is just getting something out that can be mass-produced, so as to streamline production on (and improve upon) the kinds of parts that weren't available cheaply even just a few years ago. There's also a lot of disparate technologies that're only just now starting to be brought together like foveated rendering and the Vive's wireless adapter. Even the Vive Pro's just a glorified dev kit for things like the pass-through cameras.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:34
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Yeah, It looks like the one two punch of That apology and not communicating with their producers again is going to be it for them.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:34
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Two comments: 1) They're down 25k subscribers. Which isn't much, compared to their 1M+ subscribers, but that's more subscribers lost than most content creators will see in their lifetime. And it's the only time in-- forever?-- the subscriber count has gone down. 2) Tony Goldmark leaving. Read his tweet thread and boy oh boy did it miss the point. His grievance boils down to "SOME of the stuff looks bad, I guess. I was going to stay, but when I asked management for a personal response, they didn't send one right away. How DARE they do something to snub ME? That's way over the line. I'm leaving. But still, all those #ChangeTheChannel people who just want to watch the channel burn, gently caress 'em." So Tony, if you were so hard up for an apology, are you going to offer one for calling Allison (and others) a paraphrased "crazy bitch who is only doing this because she has some sort of grudge". Tony?
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Of note: #ChangeTheChannel has unlinked and disavowed the Fan Document. When I read it, there were, I dunno, five sketchy stories. Mostly unsubstantiated fan whinging like "one time I met Rob at a convention and he was rude to me". Or another was "I met Doug and I felt like he didn't appreciate me enough." And one about producers-- I dunno, stealing booze from Doug's bar? I haven't looked at it since, but it just continued to slide downhill from there. My guess is that it's now the text equiv of that "TGWTG EXPOSED" image that gets passed around.
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Was Doug's Dragon Dildo Doughnut a part of the fan document or the main one?
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So far today, 11 people have left Channel Awesome. Brandon Tenold actually tweeted that he'd left too: https://twitter.com/BrandonTenold/status/982773513525215232 And Ask Lovecraft posted on his Facebook about leaving: https://www.facebook.com/AskLovecraft/videos/1717117571687187/ He'd been publicly frustrated with the site's lack of response and I recall he'd said something about refusing to upload his videos to the site until they gave a response. Seems he finally got fed up enough to leave officially. Shaun K also left: https://twitter.com/bigred_13/status/982724305535434752 In addition to these three, we've had: The Last Angry Geek, Rocked Reviews, Il Neige, Sursum Ursa, The Dom, Calluna, Some Jerk with a Camera, and Nash. That's 11 people who have all left. Ryan Molina of Battle Geek Plus has also said he was considering leaving as well: https://twitter.com/ThatRyanMolina/status/982705122529558529
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Apr 8, 2018 04:12
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So, what are the chances that CA holds another huge talent-pickup? Will they get anyone? Will the site just be full of naieve 15-year olds who don't have the real-world experience or maturity to steer clear of a bad deal-- because EXPOSURE IS AWESOME and they'll be the next $1,000,000 You Tube Star?
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Apr 8, 2018 04:30
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lornekates posted:So, what are the chances that CA holds another huge talent-pickup? I'm telling you, DarkSydePhil. Finally CA can get a food critic when Phil brings back Cooking With the King! E: And DSP tries it
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lornekates posted:So, what are the chances that CA holds another huge talent-pickup? I don't think they can do it. The internet landscape has changed too much and they have absolutely not kept up with the times. Channel Awesome as a website is irrelevant.
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lornekates posted:So, what are the chances that CA holds another huge talent-pickup? channel awesome becoming the new machinima would be hilarious
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Apr 8, 2018 04:37
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They’ll probably just revert to being a youtube channel doing Doug videos. They still seem to have tons of money to throw away, and they don’t seem to care about anyone else featured on the site. And they don’t care about video quality or learning or growing in any way. They’re in a kind of George Lucas circa 1998 situation, just doing a garbage passion project for reasons only they understand. I wonder if so many people left today because they gave some kind of crazy ultimatum.
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Apr 8, 2018 04:37
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Neddy Seagoon posted:VR is still very much in the enthusiast range, but the stand-alone headsets should help in the long-term. Part of what helps is just getting something out that can be mass-produced, so as to streamline production on (and improve upon) the kinds of parts that weren't available cheaply even just a few years ago. There's also a lot of disparate technologies that're only just now starting to be brought together like foveated rendering and the Vive's wireless adapter. Even the Vive Pro's just a glorified dev kit for things like the pass-through cameras. the price of headsets ignores the other price, which is a 3d adapter that can handle the tech
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Apr 8, 2018 04:40
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lornekates posted:Two comments: He put up a twitter poll asking if he was being an rear end in a top hat about the whole #ChangetheChannel thing. Currently, he’s losing.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Only Lowtax's Gaming Garbage can save them now. please welcome the newest members of the channel awesome family, retsuprae!
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Motto posted:Superbunnyhop did (another?) VR video, and it's shockingly positive coming from him. Price ranges are gonna have to fall way, way down for that stuff to be more than something that exists out there, I guess for me though. I've followed Bunnyhop for a long time, and he gushes over VR on various things like podcasts like none other. Honestly it makes me a bit skeptical because it makes him sound like some guy who's really into cryptocurrency or some other tech nerd craze where he's so besotted by the rhetoric of revolution surrounding it I'm not sure if he's really reliable on this subject or being particularly objective.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:please welcome the newest members of the channel awesome family, retsuprae! You're going to laugh, but this is the first time I realized that this was supposed to be a Japanese pronunciation of "let's play". 
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I wanted to add this to the stuff with CA, but apparently the story of Elisa Hansen being duct taped until passing out that was a part of the Google Doc was not what had happened, according to her: https://twitter.com/ElisaInTime/status/980637287779393537
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Only Lowtax's Gaming Garbage can save them now. “And we’re pleased to announce that we have added the TRUE brains of gaming garbage to the CA family. Welcome, Shmorky!”
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$5 Some Jerk only left when he realised they weren't doing the 10th Anniversary special any more.
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DoctorGonzo1969 posted:I wanted to add this to the stuff with CA, but apparently the story of Elisa Hansen being duct taped until passing out that was a part of the Google Doc was not what had happened, according to her: https://twitter.com/ElisaInTime/status/980637287779393537 I had always been told by other producers she had passed out, but it turns out she almost passed out. I don't want to present misinformation, so we're going to update that point soon, along with added contributions by other producers.
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SteelMentor posted:$5 Some Jerk only left when he realised they weren't doing the 10th Anniversary special any more. It seems like cancelling the Anniversary was at least partially a reason for a bunch of producers. Nash and Calluna both said that they had considered staying until the special was finished, the project being cancelled last minute was just an extra reason to leave now. I get that expecting CA to be better about communication now was a bit of a stretch, but you'd think they would want to do something, ANYTHING, to try and keep their new people from leaving. Now it just shows that they don't really care for their new talent, and will probably keep them from being able to find any new people, if they even decide to try and find new content creators. At this point, I think they'll wait until they drop below 10 producers, and just shut down the site to focus entirely on the YouTube channel. Thundersword238 fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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corn in the bible posted:the price of headsets ignores the other price, which is a 3d adapter that can handle the tech You kinda missed the part about "stand-alone headsets helping get the price down with mass-production of parts". But yes, right now the other big barrier to entry is needing a good gaming PC and graphics card.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You kinda missed the part about "stand-alone headsets helping get the price down with mass-production of parts". But yes, right now the other big barrier to entry is needing a good gaming PC and graphics card. Which at this point means competing with cryptocurrency miners.
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lornekates posted:Two comments: https://twitter.com/NJ4K1/status/982695372819578880 That reply thread. 
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Sarcopenia posted:https://twitter.com/NJ4K1/status/982695372819578880 Do I want to know the story behind this particular back-and-forth?
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Sarcopenia posted:https://twitter.com/NJ4K1/status/982695372819578880 And there goes the momentary blip of quasi-respect I had for him actually leaving that hellhole. Sincere congrats on not being able to just Take the W there, Tony 
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Thundersword238 posted:It seems like cancelling the Anniversary was at least partially a reason for a bunch of producers. Nash and Calluna both said that they had considered staying until the special was finished, the project being cancelled last minute was just an extra reason to leave now. I wonder if they even will wait, or if we'll wake up someday next week and find the whole site has been taken down and all that's left is a note saying "Find the Nostalgia Critic's videos on our YouTube page!" without a link. Thinking on it, it's probably for the best they don't bother trying to find new talent or patch things over. They've proven they're poo poo at management at any level, so cutting ties with other producers and going it alone with just Doug and whatever cast his show needs seems like the logical endpoint. It's what they've been doing for years and they've at least captured an audience with that. Sarcopenia posted:https://twitter.com/NJ4K1/status/982695372819578880 ... wow, what a shithead
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I kinda got tagged into their own square go for a bit after I had my own argument with Goldmark, and it wasn't pretty - just constant escalating. Goldmark is just...dunno, man. Seeing as he's clearly so bitter about feeling like he *has* to leave, maybe he should have just not bothered. Even in leaving he's burning the crap out of anyone who's percieved to have slighted him.
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Kim Justice posted:I kinda got tagged into their own square go for a bit after I had my own argument with Goldmark, and it wasn't pretty - just constant escalating. Goldmark is just...dunno, man. Seeing as he's clearly so bitter about feeling like he *has* to leave, maybe he should have just not bothered. Even in leaving he's burning the crap out of anyone who's percieved to have slighted him. He said something earlier about wanting to avoid burning bridges because of a bad choice in his youth... seems like he's flipped to "gently caress it, burn everything!" Which... is a bit worrying. Hope the dude's gonna be OK. ETA: Holy poo poo, that whole thread tho 
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Do we have an update on producerlist.png? I imagine it's going to look hilarious now.
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The Bee posted:Do we have an update on producerlist.png? I imagine it's going to look hilarious now. March:  April:  *Again, I feel like I'm Rachel Maddow updating this thing... * Nash is still up on the CA site as of this moment, so I've edited him out manually of the image.
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