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Goldmark seems to be venting about the 10th anniversary movie on Twitter right now: https://twitter.com/Motyka5dude/status/983080933749387264 https://twitter.com/tonygoldmark/status/983084397837434880 lol
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I might have said this before but Doug controlling the scripts to a majority(?) of crossovers makes all the sense in hindsight. I didn't like crossovers because it was another reviewer awkwardly trying to pull off NC's comedic stylings (you know, being a loud rear end in a top hat) and it was always bad. It's like what some people have been saying, Doug just wanted everyone else to be Doug Jr.
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Apr 8, 2018 22:28
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Alacron posted:Goldmark seems to be venting about the 10th anniversary movie on Twitter right now: It was going to be called poo poo.
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Apr 8, 2018 22:31
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Alacron posted:Goldmark seems to be venting about the 10th anniversary movie on Twitter right now: Only one half of those is true, so I think its the evil clown. I mean, it will have Doug in it after all.
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Apr 8, 2018 22:32
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Kim Justice posted:Updating a story previously posted about - a couple weeks ago Matt Conn left his positions at GaymerX and Midboss (makers of 2064: Read Only Memories) following accusations of sexual harassment. Now his replacement, Toni Rocca, has ended up lasting all of a couple of weeks before leaving both companies after allegations of sexual harassment being made against her. Both companies have new CEOs now and have officially cut ties with each other. God drat it! That sucks. Me and my girlfriend wen't to the last GaymerX in New York and we had a lot of fun. 
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Apr 8, 2018 22:33
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I get the feeling that despite the unfortunate truths about Matt Conn, GaymerX is still better than most gaming conventions
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Apr 8, 2018 22:45
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A while back, like maybe a year or two, there was a video posted about Blair Witch 2: book of shadows. It went into detail about the behind the scenes stuff and was a pretty interesting, thoughtful look at the movie as opposed to "oh my god it's so bad!!" style review. Does anyone remember this video? I wanted to watch it again.
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Apr 8, 2018 23:00
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Paladin posted:A lot of it was just how big of a deal the SNL cast was at the time, plus a lot of things in the movie were pretty innovative or unique at the time but are now just so woven into the fabric of comedy that they wouldn't really stand out. When there aren't a lot of choices, every little bit of originality counts. I know this all super subjective but I actually like some of the other contemporary comedies from SNL alumni, especially National Lampoon's Vacation and I like Bill Murray in things like Groundhog Day. I just expected Ghostbusters to be... funnier and more charming I guess.
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Apr 8, 2018 23:01
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Leal posted:Only one half of those is true, so I think its the evil clown. I mean, it will have Doug in it after all. Alright, I'm keepin this one tucked away for later. 
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Apr 8, 2018 23:03
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DoubleCakes posted:I get the feeling that despite the unfortunate truths about Matt Conn, GaymerX is still better than most gaming conventions It was honestly. I hear horror stories about places like PAX or even just general gaming conventions that make me dread going to a gaming convention. Because "Gamers!" Are terrible people. GaymerX is one of those times I felt totally safe and comfortable despite my goofy looking Taako cosplay.
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Apr 8, 2018 23:06
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Yardbomb posted:Alright, I'm keepin this one tucked away for later. BOFFO!!!
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Apr 8, 2018 23:10
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business hammocks posted:The only way I can countenance more of the CA story today without being overcome by extreme sadness and anger is to grab at this extremely parenthetical element: a Cheesecake Factory has recently opened in my city and I want to know if I should go, even if I have to go alone? You should go. And since it's a Cheesecake Factory, there's a very small, but non-zero chance that Lindsay Ellis will appear there spontaneously, like a super-rare legendary Pokemon.
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Apr 8, 2018 23:48
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FoldableHuman posted:{good stuffs} Thanks, good stuffs! BTW: congrats on getting to do Amy in front a crowd who will spend the entire run going "wait what the gently caress did that game just do-- what?" FoldableHuman posted:Then there's the embedded brand deals which, lmao, they've signed the top-shelf trash that gets leading sponsorship mention, mid-roll, and top placement in the description. Yeah, I've seen a few of those "description ads" just by accident over past couple weeks. Every single one of them seems like the sort of slimy sales pitch you get from the Facebook friend you've never heard from in 10 years, but suddenly has "an amazing product that changed my life and you can join me and work from home and be your own boss and please buy this merch sitting in my garage..." I recall you mentioning on a stream at one point how much of a raw deal those ad spots are, since you're collecting a flat fee to give a company an ad placement for forever. Since you can't replace a YouTube video, it's impossible to say "I'll sell you 5000 views for your ad". It's there and will always be there. Though now I lol because 99.999% of those VC-funded "sell things at a loss until we make money" tend to go bankrupt. So the CA archive will be littered with the corpses of dead companies. "Hi, Doug here. I don't always spray liquids up my butt, when I do, I want them to be as carbonated as possible. Go to EnemaBidetSoda.Com and use the code NCBUTT to get 10% off your first order!" 6 months down the road EnemaBidetSoda.com goes out of business, the domain lapses, but there is still a link to it on a video that gets 700k+ views. ... hmm, I think I've just discovered a new business model. Buy up that domain in a fire sale, wait for the accidental traffic to come, ???, then profit!
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Apr 8, 2018 23:58
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Channel Awesome may be pulling in money, but their studio is in a high-demand area and their rent is probably climbing. And despite Michaud being the one true owner of the company and all the associated IP, he’s not paying himself enough to buy a house. Allison’s most recent video on the topic came across as both sincere and mature. It’s been a treat watching her improve her presentation skills over the years.
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Apr 9, 2018 00:08
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Why is Doug still here? Just to suffer?
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Apr 9, 2018 00:27
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corn in the bible posted:Why is Doug still here? Just to suffer? He’ll be there until he learns why people watch movies. Then he’ll forget it, in some sort of bizarre Sisyphean YouTube reviewer hell e: goddamn memes I'm not aware of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmmQxXPOMMY Moatman fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Apr 9, 2018 00:34
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corn in the bible posted:Why is Doug still here? Just to suffer? The producers I’ve lost… the views I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?
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Apr 9, 2018 00:44
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echopapa posted:Channel Awesome may be pulling in money, but their studio is in a high-demand area and their rent is probably climbing. And despite Michaud being the one true owner of the company and all the associated IP, he’s not paying himself enough to buy a house. Yeah, I know we are all probably subscribed to her here, but since she reads the thread sometimes I’ll throw in a strong compliment for that video. It’s pitched just right and delivered very thoughtfully. I don’t know what it felt like to make (probably not great), but I hope it creates some closure and that it can ultimately be an affirmative experience. I’m a little of two minds on the channel awesome stuff, because on the one hand I want to bear witness to testimony and acknowledge the reality of what’s happened, but if the people affected want to put it behind them (and they do, obviously) I feel like there’s a point where it gets to be unseemly for us to keep tallying up ca losses and reporting back on who’s saying what.
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Yardbomb posted:The producers I’ve lost… the views I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you? They have become content creators who "do not exist"
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Apr 9, 2018 00:46
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I came in here to see how the CA implosion was doing, and then learn that Horror Guru and Count Jackula are brutally insane pieces of poo poo as well? Ugh. Well, best to know now. Consider them unsubscribed.
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Apr 9, 2018 00:52
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business hammocks posted:Yeah, I know we are all probably subscribed to her here, but since she reads the thread sometimes I’ll throw in a strong compliment for that video. It’s pitched just right and delivered very thoughtfully. I don’t know what it felt like to make (probably not great), but I hope it creates some closure and that it can ultimately be an affirmative experience. Thank you for the compliment. I'm glad the video is out and answering some questions for folks. As for putting it all behind us, yes and no. I wanted people to talk about this and know, because part of what made me so sad before was the fact people immediately put it behind them. I don't want to be tied to Channel Awesome, but I am happy people are hearing us now.
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Apr 9, 2018 00:57
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Miss Wallace posted:Thank you for the compliment. I'm glad the video is out and answering some questions for folks. FWIW after seeing those skype logs when you were booted from CA was when I lost respect for CA the company. I also think it was a good thing the document was created. I volunteer on a site that documents labour exploitation among other things and a lot of whats in the doc seems very familiar in the gig economy. When its "finalised" I was thinking of adding it to the archive as we don't have much for online work. Also Shuan Fausz has a video talking about his time at CA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqgB8sbAIpU
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Apr 9, 2018 01:04
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Miss Wallace posted:Thank you for the compliment. I'm glad the video is out and answering some questions for folks. I liked the emphasis on protecting starting content creators from being taken into these horrible places. I'm glad that you more established producers are making it safer for them. 
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Apr 9, 2018 01:19
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Miss Wallace posted:Thank you for the compliment. I'm glad the video is out and answering some questions for folks. For what it’s worth, that stuff with Michaud criticizing you by leaving up negative comments and expecting you to figure out why is 100% a classic abuse tactic, as is coming at you about it at a weird time when you’re alone and not expecting it. There’s no real way to prepare or protect yourself with poo poo like that because it’s so carefully calibrated to throw you off balance. I’m sorry you had to endure it. Also for what it’s worth, it’s been such a pleasure watching you branch out and sharpen your unique voice over the past few years. Being public about what’s gone on will definitely help out some people watching this unfold.
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lornekates posted:You should go. And since it's a Cheesecake Factory, there's a very small, but non-zero chance that Lindsay Ellis will appear there spontaneously, like a super-rare legendary Pokemon. True story: I noticed it because I recently interviewed for a job in Baltimore (I do not live in Baltimore) and saw a Cheesecake Factory while I was there and thought to myself for a minute “hey, if I get this job and move here, maybe if I go eat there I’ll meet Contrapoints” before I realized how insane that weird, specific fantasy was and that I was just being anxious about moving to a new city where I don’t know anyone.
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DoubleCakes posted:I might have said this before but Doug controlling the scripts to a majority(?) of crossovers makes all the sense in hindsight. I didn't like crossovers because it was another reviewer awkwardly trying to pull off NC's comedic stylings (you know, being a loud rear end in a top hat) and it was always bad. It's like what some people have been saying, Doug just wanted everyone else to be Doug Jr. His Speed Racer crossover review had him hate the movie and the "defense" being super weak and meaningless. It's cringe-inducing.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:A while back, like maybe a year or two, there was a video posted about Blair Witch 2: book of shadows. It went into detail about the behind the scenes stuff and was a pretty interesting, thoughtful look at the movie as opposed to "oh my god it's so bad!!" style review. Does anyone remember this video? I wanted to watch it again. Was it perhaps this video by Good Bad Flicks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAkmHSzUIHQ
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MonsieurChoc posted:His Speed Racer crossover review had him hate the movie and the "defense" being super weak and meaningless. It's cringe-inducing. That also explains why the Man of Steel crossover with Joe has Joe's defense of the film be "I like this movie because Superman is in it, and Superman is good and cool, so that means Man of Steel is also good and cool." Because I'd wager the only three things Doug actually knows about Joe are 1) he plays video games, 2) he really likes Superman, and 3) his name is Joe. ...Also he might be angry a lot. Better get Rob to check on that one.
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The most important thing for me, even as someone with only the most tangenital connection to Channel Awesome, in heightening awareness of their bullshit is to make sure that it's never repeated with another set of young reviewers. That's certainly why I chose to make a video about it.
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His star trek crossover with linkara was so bad because Insurrection's development is legitimately fascinating as is its position in the series but Doug just tells Lewis to gently caress off with the nerd poo poo so he can yell some more. Reminder that Doug's favourite next generation movie is Nemesis. Nemesis.
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Arcsquad12 posted:His star trek crossover with linkara was so bad because Insurrection's development is legitimately fascinating as is its position in the series but Doug just tells Lewis to gently caress off with the nerd poo poo so he can yell some more. why do people like movies
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Arcsquad12 posted:His star trek crossover with linkara was so bad because Insurrection's development is legitimately fascinating as is its position in the series but Doug just tells Lewis to gently caress off with the nerd poo poo so he can yell some more. And having read Fade In by Michael Piller the year prior, that was the point where I shut the video off and tabbed over to SFDebris instead.
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Seriously, why did crossovers become a Thing in the TGWTG review community? Like, specifically the idea of "you'll be a guest on my show, but your contribution is limited to saying the lines I give you and also there is some kind of skit plotline." I never thought about it much, but that poo poo's weird.
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Probably originally intended to give other producers some cross promotion but Doug had to be Doug about it...
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Puppy Time posted:Seriously, why did crossovers become a Thing in the TGWTG review community? Like, specifically the idea of "you'll be a guest on my show, but your contribution is limited to saying the lines I give you and also there is some kind of skit plotline." I never thought about it much, but that poo poo's weird. This is why To Boldly Flee kicked up such a huge stink internally at CA, as Doug killing off the character meant a lot of views were going to be lost for producers, and it was never discussed with other producers before he committed to the idea. I do wonder how much producer complaints factored into the decision to bring NC back.
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Apr 9, 2018 03:02
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Puppy Time posted:Seriously, why did crossovers become a Thing in the TGWTG review community? Like, specifically the idea of "you'll be a guest on my show, but your contribution is limited to saying the lines I give you and also there is some kind of skit plotline." I never thought about it much, but that poo poo's weird. Because their website design was pretty bad and if you weren't Doug Walker or Noah Antweiler then your videos were hidden behind, like, three separate clicks. So some people were essentially invisible except for when they showed up in a video and then suddenly people actually knew who they were. It's good business for the site if people watch everyone's videos instead of just one person's, so crossovers are a way to do promotion without having to detract from the big egos on the front page. Plus people like having fun and working with eachother so they did them at cons a lot
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Pants Donkey posted:I do wonder how much producer complaints factored into the decision to bring NC back. Given how clueless he seems, I'd wager somewhere between "Hardly" and "Not at all" I'm pretty sure that the fact that Demo Reel was bombing and tanking their revenue was the main/only factor.
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The idea if a crossover isn't bad in the slightest. It comes down to execution. Compare a Doug written crossover to any of Brad, Phelan and Allison's crossovers. There's a sense of genuineness about them because they're just being themselves rather than contorting into a foil for Doug's nonsense. Phelan's Ali Baba video with Harry Partridge is wonderful because of how much they rip into the nonsense of crossover scripts.
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YT recommendations show'd me this interview by Mike Michaud in like 2009? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP9CYgw8bFw Its edited from this https://vimeo.com/4629100 Mike only appears slightly more coherent in that. EDIT: I love the part about 6 minutes in where all three other dudes around the table just awkwardly stare at Mike while he talks a mile a minute about how youtube's going to crash and burn (at least I think that's what he's saying) Baka-nin fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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No like I understand the reason you'd do guesting stuff for cross-promotion, I'm more confused why it took the really idiotically specific form that it did. Though I suspect the answer probably boils down to "Doug has stupid ideas and is a goddam control freak."
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