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little munchkin posted:Is the tutorial broken or something? I've tried it twice, the first time I lost a battle that I was scripted to win, the second time it told me to siege some island, but when I tried it told me my army needed to be bigger then theirs. Both times I just stopped getting instructions. I ran through it again a month ago and I think I got to the part where it tells you that you done good now play on your own, so it is possible to complete. But when it tells you to do a thing the next part of the tutorial won't trigger until that thing is done, and there is no reminder anywhere to tell you what thing you're working on, so if everything doesn't go just right it can be hours before the next tutorial pop up happens. Basically it's not really a tutorial at all in the usual sense. It's a normal game with a few common goals spelled out, and meeting those goals triggers the next goal. Anyway, it's worth turning down the difficulty while you do the tutorial to make it easier to reach those goals in a reasonable amount of time. In the opening screen there are those 8 blue buttons, one of which is Tutorial. Go to the Options button instead, then pick the Game tab, then change the difficulty to Easy or Very Easy. Once you feel comfortable with all the mechanics you can turn it back up. CK is like Dwarf Fortress in that it isn't really hard to play, but it can be hard to learn all the mechanics because poo poo just isn't well documented inside the game. DF has a better wiki though. The CK2 wiki covers all the concepts well enough, but it won't tell you what buttons to press to make things happen like the DF wiki. Tell me how to pres buttan! https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Crusader_Kings_II_Wiki
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Where's the list of all the DLC in order of importance? The first post is super out of date
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I am hella PEEVED posted:No CK3 talk. Paradox has one or two pieces of DLC left for the game though. Here's my list, some people will disagree here and there. If I get yelled at enough, I'll happily update it so at least there's an easy to point to post for this winter sale.
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slap me and kiss me posted:You're a champ, thanks! Spend responsibly and have fun! 
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Quick question: how do I pay off a loan from the Knights Templar? I've tried donating to the order but the -10 relation penalty from churchy types won't go away. They have some land in my kingdom, do I have to kick them out? don't want to piss off the Pope.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Quick question: how do I pay off a loan from the Knights Templar? I've tried donating to the order but the -10 relation penalty from churchy types won't go away. They have some land in my kingdom, do I have to kick them out? don't want to piss off the Pope. Eh, just go Phillip IV all over them.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Quick question: how do I pay off a loan from the Knights Templar? I've tried donating to the order but the -10 relation penalty from churchy types won't go away. They have some land in my kingdom, do I have to kick them out? don't want to piss off the Pope. You need to wait till they come knocking, but I haven't taken a loan from a holy order in a while (due to that), so maybe it's been changed to something else. Yes, you're right, there should be an option in the Intrigue menu where you took out the loan, but there isn't. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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Thanqol's amazing Flamboyant Schemers LP just got a shout-out in an RPS article, and I really can't disagree. That LP really was amazing (probably the first LP ever to feature a rap-battle between medieval poet-counts!), so I'm glad to see people outside of these dying comedy forums think the same way! https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/04/05/grab-historical-sandbox-crusader-kings-ii-free-today/#more-532233
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Just formed the Kingdom of Sicily and was wondering what direction I should go next. I see a lot of people saying to swear fealty to the Byzantines and take it down from the inside... is this implying that I just war with dukes and counts and slowly blob up until I’m big enough to rival the emperor, this usurping his title?
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Gin_Rummy posted:Just formed the Kingdom of Sicily and was wondering what direction I should go next. I see a lot of people saying to swear fealty to the Byzantines and take it down from the inside... is this implying that I just war with dukes and counts and slowly blob up until I’m big enough to rival the emperor, this usurping his title?
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The real question is how far south is the HRE, because if you're stuck with only big empires on your border, you might be better off just joining one to gobble up provinces from within. The HRE is probably easier to deal with because you can take advantage of Elective and the Byzantines might be strong enough to outlaw internal wars and force you to deal with viceroyalties. I normally prefer to try to work towards the empire of Italia. Your main avenues for expansion are northern Italy, Sardinia and Corsica, across the adriatic to Croatia, the Balkans, Hungary, and the Byzantines, or hopping over the sea to anywhere else in the Mediterranean. My last Sicily game wound up with me getting jihaded off the peninsula, after which I played the inheritance game to hop all the way over to Spain and form the empire of Hispania.
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I'm just starting out and found a good tutorial series on learning the game, but where should I go to watch someone play this in some insanely hard, conquer the world with some ridiculous knowledge of mechanics fashion?
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Gin_Rummy posted:Just formed the Kingdom of Sicily and was wondering what direction I should go next. I see a lot of people saying to swear fealty to the Byzantines and take it down from the inside... is this implying that I just war with dukes and counts and slowly blob up until I’m big enough to rival the emperor, this usurping his title? If you haven’t tried being a vassal to a large empire then it is a lot more fun than it initially sounds, with more blobbing making up only a tiny part of your new strategy. There’s a whole new dynamic of scheming against your liege and as the King/Despot of Sicily you’ll hold a fair amount of clout in the Empire with factions that you create or join will be a big problem for the Emperor/Basileus. And while this is going on you can still expand outside of whichever empire you join and you get to keep the lands so that part of your game won’t change.
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I'm still trying to figure out the mechanics in this game but it seems like I might have a good time with it, should I move on the DLC now if I'm even remotely interested or do these go on sale enough that if I like what I see after a while I can pick up more discounted later? If I have to act now, the 4 recommend starter DLC's are only $10 less than getting the whole DLC pack, should I just get that instead in that case? Getting the base game for free really takes a lot of the sting off of buying DLC for this game that I'm not sure how into it I'll get in the long run.
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explosivo posted:I'm still trying to figure out the mechanics in this game but it seems like I might have a good time with it, should I move on the DLC now if I'm even remotely interested or do these go on sale enough that if I like what I see after a while I can pick up more discounted later? DLCs go on sale pretty often but I’d just buy now. As mentioned some people didn’t like some the mechanics of Conclave, but a lot of that was because they were used the council being spineless stat buffs so they were mad that they had to consider stuff like loyalty instead of just picking the highest stat dude. So if you are learning the game anyways, you might as well learn the most recent version rather than having to unlearn stuff later.
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I think maybe the DLCs sometimes go on 75% discount, but I can't remember for certain. Jade Dragon definitely will come down in price, because the most recent DLC always costs more. If you want all the stuff now and you can afford it, go for it. Otherwise, you can always buy piece by piece in individual sales. Get the new mechanics one bit at a time.
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oddium posted:how do you deal with gavelkind as a tribal in 900 Very carefully. One way is to limit your number of heirs. Take concubines and set them aside when you have and heir and a spare. If you have two equal sized duchies at your characters death, your heir should inherit your better upgraded capital duchy while your spare gets the other duchy. Be prepared to beat up the early challengers of your rule once your son inherits. Reforming the faith, or converting to a non-pagan religion, is a top priority. As is slowly jacking up tribal organization until it's on max. Then you adopt feudalism as soon as possible. Or become a merchant republic if you want to.
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explosivo posted:If I have to act now, the 4 recommend starter DLC's are only $10 less than getting the whole DLC pack, should I just get that instead in that case? Yes. I have never regretted buying a CK2 DLC.
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Bought the 4 recommended ones plus Sword of Islam. Looking forward to figuring out how to play this goddamn game!
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oddium posted:how do you deal with gavelkind as a tribal in 900 By the time you run out of land to conquer, you should be able to deal with gavelkind a different way, either by reforming or because of how split up your dynasty is that anyone elected already has land. This is the only method that doesn't rely on being a SPINELESS COWARD
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Acquire enough land to create an empire and then your lovely extra sons will be guaranteed to end up vassals to your good son.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Acquire enough land to create an empire and then your lovely extra sons will be guaranteed to end up vassals to your good son. This also works at the 1 kingdom and 1 duchy level. If you acquire your first counties in a pattern where you control only one de jure duchy title, then your failsons will wind up vassals of your primary heir. Once you control more than one duchy (whether you have created the title or not) you need to rush for a kingdom title ASAP. oddium posted:how do you deal with gavelkind as a tribal in 900 You can try to keep your extra sons serially engaged to girls under 5, or marry them to women over 35 (but not over 50, because she'll just die). Even if your group is allowed concubines the AI doesn't seem to put a huge priority on it for young men, and other rulers are more likely to agree to a marriage than to handing over a concubine. So locking them into an inconvenient marriage or long engagement can keep them from producing heirs for 10 years. If you can't find a way to get rid of an inconvenient brother in 10 years what are you even doing? Personally though I like to load up on kids with my first guy. Lots of sons, so I'm not in danger of a game over with a couple unlucky deaths. I like to invite every man with a good eugenics trait I can get, and then matrilineally marry them to my many daughters. Most people won't agree to a matrilineal marriage, but if you get the guy into your court you can force it. This results in a lot of cousins who have only weak claims on your titles in the future, but are still eligible to be picked as heir in elective systems and act as insurance against a game over if you murder all your brothers and then get bonked on the head. Occasionally one of these matrileanally married dudes will inherit a title, causing that title to be owned by your bloodline. Having a large extended family can come in handy later in the game if you are a republic, or form a vassal republic on someone from your bloodline.
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Crusader Kings II: keep your extra sons serially engaged to girls under 5,
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think maybe the DLCs sometimes go on 75% discount, but I can't remember for certain.
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Whoa! That's truly amazing. It's a small change, but really helps with immersion. I approve.
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 indeedI think reformation of pagan faiths will get harder with this.
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I think it says any leader with discontiguous provinces and no way to reach them navally or by land them loses the provinces on death. Not just AI. Seems clear to me?  I wonder what happens if they're your provinces, is that what the independent peasant thing is about? I hope you get CBs for the chance to have the land back.
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That makes perfect sense and I believe that will produce more historical scenarios, but I feel vaguely offended that this was considered a problem that needed to be fixed. I know it doesn't make sense for me to own pieces of anatolia and corsica when I'm king of Ireland, but that's what Crusader Kings is.
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SlothfulCobra posted:That makes perfect sense and I believe that will produce more historical scenarios, but I feel vaguely offended that this was considered a problem that needed to be fixed. Unless I misread that dev diary, I'm fairly sure this new rule won't be enabled by default.
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Napoleon Bonaparty posted:I wonder what happens if they're your provinces, is that what the independent peasant thing is about? I hope you get CBs for the chance to have the land back.
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-Dethstryk- posted:Unless I misread that dev diary, I'm fairly sure this new rule won't be enabled by default. It specifically said that "Off" is the default setting.
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Dwesa posted:If I understand it correctly, if there is a ruler in the exclave (like some vassal of yours), he will become independent. If there is none (e.g. player controls it), peasant leader takes it.
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My king died before I got to legalism level 3 and my 5 holdings are now two under the hier, with the remaining 3 split amongst siblings. What I'm asking is, should I kill my brothers and take my loving land back?
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CascadeBeta posted:My king died before I got to legalism level 3 and my 5 holdings are now two under the hier, with the remaining 3 split amongst siblings. I assume this question is rhetorical.
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CascadeBeta posted:My king died before I got to legalism level 3 and my 5 holdings are now two under the hier, with the remaining 3 split amongst siblings.
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