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they're pretty bad but it was cool of dave to get macho man randy savage to do the call and response part on five magics
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Vargatron posted:Megadeth remixes are awful because of the loving triggered snare and for using garbage outtakes of tracks. Completely ruins what made the original mixes good. iirc there was some weird thing where he actually rerecorded portions of some tracks to get around copyright or something like that, so they weren't really just remixed in the normal sense of the word.
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Apr 9, 2018 00:54
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usually that's done to cheat former band members out of royalties as ozzy did with his 80s reissues
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just heard timeghoul at a friends place, i love this poo poo! there's a discography vinyl out, i have to get one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltFjJqrzRc loving gnarly name too, TIMEGHOUL jesus oh and speaking of tech / progressive death, SUPURATION from france is one underrated gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNPgAQhwSts i love this review from metal archives: quote:It's not often that you find an album that can really suck you in and take you on a journey. Supuration's The Cube is one of those rare cases, where the music is well done and each track possesses a similarly eerie atmosphere, a feeling of being trapped inside a cube. sick.... Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Apr 9, 2018 10:24
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lmao who listens to music for politics
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Apr 9, 2018 13:37
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xzzy posted:The 30 years ago part is key for another important reason: If you buy the remastered versions you might not survive to the end of the album.
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Apr 9, 2018 13:55
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The Megadeth discussion makes me wonder: What re-recording "remaster/remix" projects have improved upon the original version? It seems like a lot of them are mostly either ego projects or attempts to gently caress old band members or record labels over for one reason or another. Personally, I'm throwing the 20th Anniversary re-do of Dog Fashion Disco's Erotic Massage into the ring, primarily because, well, unlike the original version it doesn't sound like it was recorded in a bedroom or public restroom (song depending). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuUVZnKtXFA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3xSOH6TElA (Also, its version of Looking For Love/Where Have You Gone/whatever it's called this week is sublime but that's neither here nor there)
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Apr 9, 2018 14:09
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Has Reek of Putrefaction even been remastered because that is one album that desperately needs one
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Apr 9, 2018 14:14
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Kvlt! posted:Has Reek of Putrefaction even been remastered because that is one album that desperately needs one i'm willing to bet earache has lost the masters huh, apparently not: https://carcass.bandcamp.com/album/reek-of-putrefaction-full-dynamic-range-edition
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Apr 9, 2018 14:15
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i love the sound of reek of putrefaction for some reason but to really get the intended sound you should listen to it on youtube via laptop speakers the full dynamic range version of it is interesting, but something seems "off" on it to me. maybe because it's just not the recording i'm used to.
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Apr 9, 2018 14:45
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same, after listening to the original for 20 years that remaster just sounds lame. i mean it's not a well recorded album and making the sound cleaner only highlights how amateurish it is. also grind is at its best when its chaotic as gently caress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaom0OqHT4c Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Apr 9, 2018 14:47
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I'm actually incredibly shocked that earache didn't lose the masters, though.
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Apr 9, 2018 14:52
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Oh don't get me wrong, RoF is my 2nd favorite Carcass album after Symphonies of Sickness, it's just sometimes the production feels a little too rough for me. I agree that headphones help.
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Apr 9, 2018 14:52
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For some reason I find it hilarious that the most iconic Carcass sound comes from a song titled the same as the previous album. That vibrato on the opening riff gets me pumped for the album every time.
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The Kins posted:The Megadeth discussion makes me wonder: What re-recording "remaster/remix" projects have improved upon the original version? It seems like a lot of them are mostly either ego projects or attempts to gently caress old band members or record labels over for one reason or another. Opeth's remaster of Deliverance/Damnation is probably the best remaster I've heard in a long time. It's not as noticeable on Damnation, but Holy poo poo does the new mix make Deliverance sound amazing. https://youtu.be/9Xl544mZwJI remixed Masters Aprentice https://youtu.be/jJHaMMlfQeE original. The drums especially sound better.
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Apr 9, 2018 17:23
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Too bad they couldn't replace the most boring Opeth riff ever written at the beginning.
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Not specific to metal, but the first wave of "remasters" when CD's and digital audio were the hot new thing were pretty nice. It forced everyone to go back over their material clean up the tracks and make use of the expanded dynamic range, but they resisted the temptation to gently caress around with the songs themselves. Going from tape to digital media was magic. I don't remember it becoming a problem until the 2000's when labels realized they could get people to re-purchase the same album every ten years, all they needed to do was get the artist back in the studio to gently caress around with the mix.
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Apr 9, 2018 17:41
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The Kins posted:The Megadeth discussion makes me wonder: What re-recording "remaster/remix" projects have improved upon the original version? i liked the individual thought patterns remaster in large part because you can actually hear steve di giorgio's bass tracks, but also because the drum overheads aren't completely buried either
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Apr 9, 2018 17:45
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d0grent posted:Too bad they couldn't replace the most boring Opeth riff ever written at the beginning. Listen. I'm not saying Deliverance is a great album now because it has a better mix, just it sounds way better than it did. They really should have just mashed the best tracks from those two albums into a single album.
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joylessdivision posted:Opeth's remaster of Deliverance/Damnation is probably the best remaster I've heard in a long time. I like the original mix better. It's most obvious if you compare the title track - which is way better than Master's Apprentice anyway - in the original mix the drums are clear and really make the intro pop, in the remix they're bassier and blur together, making the intro feel more sluggish and not as good. The guitars do sound a bit better, but it's not worth losing the details for IMO. I completely agree that there is one amazing album plus a bunch of filler between Deliverance and Damnation though. Not exactly metal, but all the recent King Crimson remasters have been fantastic. Nine Inch Nails have some great remasters too, TDS somehow got even better. e: Original Opeth - Deliverance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rggQNCS8UjM Remastered Opeth - Deliverance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PMPj5Smfy8 il_cornuto fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Apr 9, 2018 18:14
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The NIN remaster of Pretty Hate Machine is amazing as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7TUfKdC3hY
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Apr 9, 2018 18:22
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The remaster of Scald’s Will of the Gods is Great Power on the Algyl’s Saga collection is probably the best, since it’s a full digital transfer of the original reel-to-reels as opposed to the original cd which was basically a tape deck rip of the cassette release.
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xzzy posted:Not specific to metal, but the first wave of "remasters" when CD's and digital audio were the hot new thing were pretty nice. It forced everyone to go back over their material clean up the tracks and make use of the expanded dynamic range, but they resisted the temptation to gently caress around with the songs themselves. Going from tape to digital media was magic. The big issue now is that with digital production becoming common place, nearly everyone compresses the hell out of their music now and everything sounds flat and sterile, completely ignoring dynamic range. It's ridiculous that I have a decent set of headphones, a nice amp and DAC, and poo poo from 1992 sounds way better than something that came out in 2018.
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Oh, here's another one... sort of. This is less "improving upon an already great thing" and more "making it what it should have been by putting more than six bucks into the mixing budget" but Nevermore's Enemies of Reality remaster is worlds beyond the original, which sounded like a bad MP3 rip from the Napster days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQcV_YQ38zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBpOjUBf9to
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Apr 9, 2018 18:45
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This is awesome news! If you haven't given them a listen fix that right up soon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyhJRo8m6Tw
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:The big issue now is that with digital production becoming common place, nearly everyone compresses the hell out of their music now and everything sounds flat and sterile, completely ignoring dynamic range. At least the loudness wars are over, right?  When I'm demoing some audio equipment, I use a selection of 70's metal, 80's rock, and modern electronic music. There's some electronic artists that can really fill out a sound, I assume because they're doing it all on a computer and fine tune stuff until it's perfect.
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Apr 9, 2018 19:08
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xzzy posted:At least the loudness wars are over, right? actually YouTube has been normalizing audio for years and since that's probably (sadly) now the biggest platform for music compressing the hell out of it does nothing for it's perceived volume. http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-loudness/
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you shouldnt listen to youtube on anything except lovely headphones or computer speakers
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I think I'm the only one who likes the remastered version of Reign in Blood better than the original.  The guitars just feel tighter but it doesn't help that the first time I heard that album was when I was 16 and it stayed on loop in my cars CD player for about a month. So maybe I'm biased. However that's the only remaster that I think has been an improvement over the original.
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il_cornuto posted:I like the original mix better. It's most obvious if you compare the title track - which is way better than Master's Apprentice anyway - in the original mix the drums are clear and really make the intro pop, in the remix they're bassier and blur together, making the intro feel more sluggish and not as good. The guitars do sound a bit better, but it's not worth losing the details for IMO. I completely agree that there is one amazing album plus a bunch of filler between Deliverance and Damnation though. Okay yeah, original mix Deliverance had a real bite to it that the remix just doesn't, especially in the drums. Admittedly it's been a while since I listened to the original release of Deliverance or the remix for that matter. It's just not a go-to Opeth album.
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I love the title track and A Fair Judgement too much to forget about it completely, but it is one of their weaker pre-full prog era efforts yeah.
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Deliverance was a great album based solely on the title track, which rips real hard and makes me want to gently caress on the floor and break poo poo.
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Wark Say posted:Deliverance was a great album based solely on the title track, which rips real hard and makes me want to gently caress on the floor and break poo poo.  gently caress yeah
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:
i think a lot of it has to do with smaller studios still using tape well into the late 90s
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The Kins posted:The Megadeth discussion makes me wonder: What re-recording "remaster/remix" projects have improved upon the original version? It seems like a lot of them are mostly either ego projects or attempts to gently caress old band members or record labels over for one reason or another. iirc the chasm's from the lost years sounds way better on the recent remaster because the original was really muddy sounding for whatever reason. Vintersorg posted:This is awesome news! I don't really know what to think of this, if they use the typical metal blade production then the album's probably going to suck.
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Apr 10, 2018 01:38
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The new Judas Priest album has quite a few bangers
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The Kins posted:The Megadeth discussion makes me wonder: What re-recording "remaster/remix" projects have improved upon the original version? It seems like a lot of them are mostly either ego projects or attempts to gently caress old band members or record labels over for one reason or another. Aside from nostalgia, Days of Purgatory pretty clearly improved the material from Iced Earth's early days.
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Apr 10, 2018 05:11
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New album cover art:
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That’s a good album cover.
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