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Yinlock posted:has anyone ever asked this in the history of words
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Byolante posted:You realise the first paragraph and the second are mutually exclusive right? as in you think all points listed in the first paragraph are blocked / forbidden by the EU? or was it just one in particular
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Apr 10, 2018 13:28
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Forums Terrorist posted:Hey remember in 2010 when it was a three way split between the tories, blairite labour and the Lib Dems, and the Lib Dems, being of course a centre left party, went into coalition with labour? Would've been nice if the Lib Dems had not been so vain that they wanted Brown's head, would've been even nicer if there weren't turncoat lib dem voters too stupid to realise that the LDs would definitely have voted for the Iraq War if they were in government (see their support of the campaigns in Libya and Syria).
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Apr 10, 2018 13:29
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wonder which labour staffer got tell Corbyn yesterday that Nick Griffin of all people endorsed himquote:IF he sticks to his guns then for 1st time in my life I will vote #Labour - right now NOTHING is more important than resisting the psychotic rush to #WW3 of Boris & the #neocons Corbyn refuses to blame Assad for chemical attack in #Syria https://dailym.ai/2GJjEyt via @MailOnline
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Apr 10, 2018 14:25
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Yinlock posted:has anyone ever asked this in the history of words
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Apr 10, 2018 14:42
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Yinlock posted:has anyone ever asked this in the history of words Yes. Many people here and elsewhere during the 2017 election.
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Apr 10, 2018 14:46
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Cerv posted:as in you think all points listed in the first paragraph are blocked / forbidden by the EU? or was it just one in particular I mean feel free to lash yourself to the mast of the Good ship weidmann but the only place you are going is the bottom of the sea
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Apr 10, 2018 15:07
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Byolante posted:You realise the first paragraph and the second are mutually exclusive right? Can you explain why?
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Apr 10, 2018 15:16
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Byolante posted:I mean feel free to lash yourself to the mast of the Good ship weidmann but the only place you are going is the bottom of the sea what?
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Apr 10, 2018 16:32
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I don’t think he’s negotiating with a full set of member states if you get my drift.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:36
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Nick Griffin is against jumping into yet another war therefore we should be in favour. I am a Sensible Adult.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:50
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Pissflaps posted:Those are the sort of things that could get me interested in a new centre left party. Since brexit will have likely already happened by the next election, you want a party that has a reasonable chance of forming a majority after it's first GE with it's main policy differences from Labour being "Don't raise the corporation tax" and "More foreign intervention"? And this is what it would take for them to get your vote?
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Apr 10, 2018 18:11
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he didn't actually say he was for more intervention tho, he said, exact words, a "grown up foreign and defence policy". it's completely without meaning, which means the reader can attribute any old poo poo lmao
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Apr 10, 2018 18:29
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Gum posted:Since brexit will have likely already happened by the next election, you want a party that has a reasonable chance of forming a majority after it's first GE with it's main policy differences from Labour being "Don't raise the corporation tax" and "More foreign intervention"? And this is what it would take for them to get your vote? I didn’t say don’t raise corporation tax I said don’t pretend it’ll pay for everything. And I’m certain that relations with the EU will dominate British politics for some time after Brexit.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:31
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43710526 Bully these old pieces of poo poo
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Apr 10, 2018 18:31
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Vitamin P posted:just lol if you think a new centrist party wouldnt gently caress labour completely I actually read an article today arguing the opposite - that it would mostly screw the tories and I found it pretty convincing: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2018/04/it-s-tories-not-labour-who-should-fear-new-centrist-party Basically the Labour voters who don't like Corbyn are mostly Leavers and so aren't likely to jump to a anti-brexit centrist party. Meanwhile most tory voters who don't like May are pro-remain, so would be more likely to jump over to a centrist anti-brexit party.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:34
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Nonsense posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43710526 which old pieces of poo poo ?
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Apr 10, 2018 18:44
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UrbicaMortis posted:Basically the Labour voters who don't like Corbyn are mostly Leavers yeah....no
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Apr 10, 2018 18:45
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Pissflaps posted:I didn’t say don’t raise corporation tax I said don’t pretend it’ll pay for everything. I'm sure that when historians look for reasons behind the shock election success of the Pissflaps Party they will credit their twin planks of "Raise corporation tax (But not by too much)" and "Be pro-eu in some unspecified way"
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Apr 10, 2018 18:48
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Pissflaps posted:yeah....no I don't know what to tell you, 'Flaps, there are the statistics and stuff in the article.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:51
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UrbicaMortis posted:I don't know what to tell you, 'Flaps, there are the statistics and stuff in the article. You expect flaps to be defeated by mere facts?
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Apr 10, 2018 19:01
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This is bad for Corbyn https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/10/israeli-labor-leader-cuts-ties-jeremy-corbyn-antisemitism
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Apr 10, 2018 19:05
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Apr 10, 2018 19:05
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:This is bad for Corbyn So this is actually over Corbyn not been down with Israeli Crimes against humanity isn't it?
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Apr 10, 2018 19:09
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Firos posted:You expect flaps to be defeated by mere facts? UrbicaMortis posted:I don't know what to tell you, 'Flaps, there are the statistics and stuff in the article. Can either of you geniuses quote the statistic on what proportion of labour voters who don’t like Corbyn are also Leavers?
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Apr 10, 2018 19:10
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:This is bad for Corbyn somebody send this guy a copy of the Chakrabarti report ffs
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Apr 10, 2018 19:11
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Byolante posted:https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/a-very-eu-coup-martin-selmayrs-astonishing-power-grab/ At least for Britain, the answer to "why would anyone want to stay in the EU, given what these germans are doing" is that "as bad as it might be, the alternative is much worse."
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Apr 10, 2018 22:01
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UrbicaMortis posted:I don't know what to tell you, 'Flaps, there are the statistics and stuff in the article. Firos posted:You expect flaps to be defeated by mere facts? There aren't any relevant facts or statistics in the article and it doesnt link to or source any either. im with flaps, if fellas saying theres an anti-corbyn contingent of steadfast leavers bigger than the the anti-corbyn liberal remainers id be surprised and its an assertion that needs something at least to back it up
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Apr 10, 2018 22:24
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Pissflaps posted:somebody send this guy a copy of the Chakrabarti report ffs Another brilliant bit of political acumen quote:Gabbay, who is likely to be the centre-left alliance’s candidate for prime minister at the next election, has signalled a shift to the right in recent months, backing Israeli soldiers’ actions over the shooting of protesters in Gaza and suggesting Israeli settlers should not be forced out of their homes in the event of a peace deal. quote:The Zionist Union, the centre-left alliance in which Labor is the leading political force, is the main opposition in the Knesset. However, it has taken a nosedive in the polls in recent months, falling behind Likud, the centrist Yesh Atid and the Joint List alliance of leftwing and Israeli Arab parties. Clearly, Corbyn should listen to this paragon of left wing politics and electoral powerhouse. What a loss for the Labour party Hurray for the centrists (who support the murders of Palestinian protesters) Kurtofan has issued a correction as of 22:34 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 22:28
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the center-left alliance which happens to be 100% right-wingers
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Apr 10, 2018 22:40
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https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/983607601865920512 the vast, uncultivated middle ground which has never been pandered to ever
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Apr 10, 2018 22:45
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Yinlock posted:the center-left alliance which happens to be 100% right-wingers you just don't understand what it takes to win elections, you loony lefty quote:The Zionist Union, the centre-left alliance in which Labor is the leading political force, is the main opposition in the Knesset. However, it has taken a nosedive in the polls in recent months, falling behind Likud, the centrist Yesh Atid and the Joint List alliance of leftwing and Israeli Arab parties. oh wait
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Apr 10, 2018 22:47
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Cerv posted:what? So you think ceding sovereignty to a bunch of unelected technocrats who think faust is a foundational work on economics is actually going to benefit anyone at all? Tony Benn was right then and Corbyn is right now.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:12
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The left wing position on brexit seems to be it was accidentally a good idea in retrospect
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Apr 10, 2018 23:21
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It's a shame there's no Glastonbury this year as I can imagine the crowd going wild for a Jobs First Brexit.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:24
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Byolante posted:So you think ceding sovereignty to a bunch of unelected technocrats who think faust is a foundational work on economics is actually going to benefit anyone at all? dunno. do you think you might ever stop beating your wife?
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Apr 10, 2018 23:26
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what the deuce is the Chakrabarti report and why does it keep getting brought up
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Apr 10, 2018 23:30
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gradenko_2000 posted:what the deuce is the Chakrabarti report and why does it keep getting brought up It's a report written by Shami Chakrabarti explaining that Labour doesn't have a problem with anti semitism. It's especially compelling since, at the time of writing, Chakrabarti wasn't even a Labour Party member so was entirely impartial. Within six months of publication, in an entirely unrelated turn of events, Shami Chakrabarti was made a life peer by the Labour Party leadership and appointed to the shadow cabinet.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:what the deuce is the Chakrabarti report and why does it keep getting brought up It's one of the reasons why Pissflaps doesn't like Asian people
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Cerv posted:dunno. do you think you might ever stop beating your wife? You are the one in favour of staying in the EU. Me asking you if you actually support the current EU is a fair question. Tony Benn's final question is vitally important to the issue of the EU which is 'how do we get rid of you?' How do you stop Weidmann from destroying the economy of Europe through his gold buggery? How do you stop Selmayr from doing whatever the gently caress he wants with no consequences and forever? Selmayr already removed the independence of the judiciary and had the German head of HR remove term limits from strategic positions to ensure they held onto power. They will never face an election so there is no way for the man in the street to actually do anything about it. The old 'keep doing this because anything else is worse' line is just the same old francis fukuyama bullshit.
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