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evilweasel posted:the issue i see is that putin's power is largely based on nationalistic prestige and he might feel compelled to do something dumb to retaliate. that's the main worry, a russian jet gets hit by a missile aimed at a syrian base, so russia tries to deliberately shoot down a us jet, which reacts violently to the idea, etc etc it 100% can spiral into a new cold war, complete with a conflict like the Korean War wherein US soldiers fought Chinese soldiers in Korea, and a depressed world economy as 2 powers gently caress about with everything and destabilize the global situation.
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Meatball posted:Hes going to start a war and use the media cover to fire Mueller isn't he? Nah, he's been pretty blatant with his firings. He uses them to distract. Guillotine.
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I mean, it's hard to argue it's a monopoly - they don't have sole control of social media, or even vaguely-facebook-like social media, as a communications platform (as regularly comes up in this thread when people say "I don't use Facebook and don't feel like I'm missing anything  ").
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Vladimir Putin posted:You mean like a Russian jet that’s parked on the ground right? It’s very unlikely that a flying jet gets hit by accident with a cruise missile. Yes, when a Syrian base gets bombed/hit by a missile, unintentionally.
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Ted Cruz is the only person that can make Zuck look human in comparison. That was pretty terrible to watch
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"Several thousand of my hive's accounts were deleted for being 'fake,' and yet it is their saliva which binds together the material under my suit."
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Meatball posted:Hes going to start a war and use the media cover to fire Mueller isn't he? That doesn't sound very plausible, since the media will drop war coverage and completely focus on the firing, if he does that. More than likely he's looking for ways to overcome his feeling of powerlessness, and ordering the military to bomb another country is a good way to do that.
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Meatball posted:Hes going to start a war and use the media cover to fire Mueller isn't he? I'd say it's likely, yeah. But I'm just an idiot posting to an internet forum so...
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evilweasel posted:Yes, when a Syrian base gets bombed/hit by a missile, unintentionally. Which would have happened previously during the first gas attack if they hadn't warned Russia about the incoming bombing
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WoodrowSkillson posted:it 100% can spiral into a new cold war, complete with a conflict like the Korean War wherein US soldiers fought Chinese soldiers in Korea, and a depressed world economy as 2 powers gently caress about with everything and destabilize the global situation. uh the korean war wasn't an accident, china told us to stop advancing into north korea, we thought they were bluffing, and then it turned out that assuming they were bluffing while advancing in two columns along the coasts while not covering the middle of the country was not a super idea and they then intervened on north korea's side to maintain their buffer state
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"Nobody wants to be friends with an eldritch demon who only wants to consume their soul. We have your data mr Cruz. Or should I say qwixiblik?"
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Guys Syria gassed hundreds of people and he bombed them last time, its not a conspiracy that its happening again.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:it 100% can spiral into a new cold war, complete with a conflict like the Korean War wherein US soldiers fought Chinese soldiers in Korea, and a depressed world economy as 2 powers gently caress about with everything and destabilize the global situation. Yup. Plus, given Trump's stated wish to build more nuclear weapons, welp...
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Nothing pisses me off more than the "argument" republicans have been making that there's no need for legislation protecting Mueller because they don't believe Trump is going to fire him. If he's not going to fire him then it doesn't matter if you passed it or not, if he is then it matters quite a bit. Just tell us the real reason, which is that you care more about your party than the country.
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evilweasel posted:uh the korean war wasn't an accident, china told us to stop advancing into north korea, we thought they were bluffing, and then it turned out that assuming they were bluffing while advancing in two columns along the coasts while not covering the middle of the country was not a super idea It's not one to one, all i meant was the US fought Chinese troops, but on Korean soil, and did not gently caress about with China proper. If some disastrous sequence of events happens, we totally could end up in some asinine war in Syria where we end up with US troops fighting Russian troops in Aleppo.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Guys Syria gassed hundreds of people and he bombed them last time, its not a conspiracy that its happening again. It can be both.
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 Alright, that's actually pretty funny.Now I'm imagining it in Ted Cruz voice and it's less funny.
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KickerOfMice posted:
You know Cruz didn't say that, right?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Guys Syria gassed hundreds of people and he bombed them last time, its not a conspiracy that its happening again. Sure, that's why it is Syria. If he needed to Wag the Dog two weeks ago it would have been North Korea, and in 2 weeks it might have been Iran. The target is just whichever has the best excuse. The scale of the engagement will be telling as to how political of an act it is.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:You know Cruz didn't say that, right? No! I'm not watching. Who said it?
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KickerOfMice posted:No! I'm not watching. Who said it? It's Samantha Bee doing a funny caption over a screenshot, dude.
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evilweasel posted:you're doing a really bad job of it because all you're doing is quibbling with well-established science on lead poisoning with no support whatsoever and getting basic things wrong while doing so. you can't dispute the effects of lead poisoning. the spike in crime and the fall in crime is so dramatic that we know to a statistically sufficient level of precision that it's not just random: something or several somethings caused it. lead has both the right effects to cause it and the right time that it was introduced and then removed that the explanation holds together. I have a little bit of sympathy for this kind of reasoning as it often comes from real concerns, it's just they are misguided in this case. If you're an engineer or doctor testing the structure properties of concrete or cancer treatments, you need a very high standard of evidence before you can draw conclusions. This is necessary and possible to achieve because you are looking for very small subtle effects and the consequences of being wrong are very severe. Someone who is accustomed to working in an environment will instinctively question conclusions drawn for poorly controlled observational studies because they necessarily have a lot of uncertainty that can mask the small effects you look for in that kind precise research. However of course in this case we don't need to be 99.99% sure that leaded gasoline led to higher rates of violent crime. If you're going to make someone spend $10,000 on a medication you need to be that confident in order to justify the action. However when it comes to something like leaded gasoline being 90%, or 50%, or even less confident of the danger to justify taking action. People working in a field where they are used to doing triage often miss that their decision making calculus needs to change so they get hung up on details and miss the bigger picture.
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure, that's why it is Syria. If he needed to Wag the Dog two weeks ago it would have been North Korea, and in 2 weeks it might have been Iran. He would not be doing anything differently in Syria if the FBI raid hadn't happened.
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mango sentinel posted:Y'all do realize that once Kelly is out, Bolton runs the White House, regardless of his title, right? I'd say that role belongs more to Sean Hannity, but why split hairs?
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KickerOfMice posted:No! I'm not watching. Who said it? nobody, it's a funny tweet pointing out that ted cruz has no friends
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Bicyclops posted:It's Samantha Bee doing a funny caption over a screenshot, dude. I didn't look at the author... shut up!  I'm going to make another tea, I evidently need it. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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How far can Bolton/Trump push the 2001 AUMF before congress starts actually complaining here? There has to be SOME kind of tipping point.
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Rigel posted:He would not be doing anything differently in Syria if the FBI raid hadn't happened. Yeah, I agree. This isn't so much a wag the dog scenario as it is "the inevitability of John Bolton setting foot in the White House and having the ear of the President."
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WoodrowSkillson posted:we end up with US troops fighting Russian troops in Aleppo. This is probably a wet dream to some people unfortunately. Finally fighting the Russians directly in a way that doesn't involve immediate nuclear war.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Ted Cruz is the only person that can make Zuck look human in comparison. 2016 reminder. There's a clip of Zodiac Killer trying to show affection for "his" human spawn by pressing his face opening on her face and she yelped "No, daddy, no!"
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WoodrowSkillson posted:It's not one to one, all i meant was the US fought Chinese troops, but on Korean Soil, and did not gently caress about with China proper. If some disastrous sequence of events happens, we totally could end up in some asinine war in Syria where we end up with US troops fighting Russian troops in Aleppo. oh we already ended up in that situation when some russian mercenaries got it into their idiot heads that attacking a us military base was a great idea. it didn't go well and they're not going to try it again. the real concern I have is if they try firing missiles at our bases or ships, since they could potentially score a hit that way and force a response.
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