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Sinteres posted:a bunch of communist Kurds who are Turkey's number one enemy What in here is supposed to make me like them less, because all three of those things are pretty cool and good?
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Crazycryodude posted:What in here is supposed to make me like them less, because all three of those things are pretty cool and good? Everyone loves the Kurds.
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***Everyone except al-saqr and some Turks loves the kurds.
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OMG I'm reading about the city MBS wants to build, Neom, and it's like a child thought about itquote:Neom is to be the grandest manifestation of that vision. A city of the future, the likes of which the world has never seen—except maybe in science fiction books and movies. It is to be built from scratch on 10,231 square miles of untouched land in the northwestern region of Saudi Arabia, including territory from within the Egyptian and Jordanian borders. http://bigthink.com/design-for-good/saudi-arabia-is-building-a-utopian-city-to-herald-the-future-of-human-civillization At least Brasilia was supposed to be the capital of Brazil. It's so dumb quote:Neom will not only become a test case for a zero-energy mega-city (with a size 33 times that of New York), but it will provide abundant opportunities for employment and investments within Saudi Arabia, attracting local and foreign money back to the country. The city’s vision is to be at the forefront of nine key economic sectors, including energy and water, biotech, advanced manufacturing, and food. A child.
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CrazyLoon posted:You know, I'm still pretty certain most of what's about to happen is a whole lot of bloody macho military posturing that amounts to nothing, but I can't help but think about Bolton just signing in while several WH folks leaving at exactly the same time might not mean something really nuts is about to go down. Bolton would have wanted more time to get his house in order, I think. And while war with Iran would be an attraction, I doubt he wants to risk military escalation with Russia, with the probability of us killing some Russians depending on how the strikes go.
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Crazycryodude posted:What in here is supposed to make me like them less, because all three of those things are pretty cool and good? There are reasons to support their autonomy/independence, but realistically putting them in charge of Syria would force them to be every bit as ruthless as Assad, because there's no way the country's Arabs would just willingly submit to Kurdish rule. They're already having problems with the Arab territory they have. Shageletic posted:OMG I'm reading about the city MBS wants to build, Neom, and it's like a child thought about it "What if Dubai, but insanely huge and way more likely to be bombed?" "Yes your highness, very brilliant. Just please don't torture me in a luxury hotel." Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Supposing some FRUKUS air strikes do take place, what will be the point? Making a big pothole in a Syrian runway serves what strategic purpose exactly? It's not going to turn the tide of the war. It's not going to stop Bashar from basharing up the Syrians. I wrote a post just a few up on this... Shageletic posted:A child. Hey, so he played EA Games SimCity and thought he was good to go because he heard the old Maxis one was accurate. Of course everyone neglected to mention City Skylines is actually the new hotness. guidoanselmi fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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not gonna lie, seeing all the assadists poo poo their pants over the possible strikes that may or may not happen is giving me an enormous sense of vengeance for their victims:- https://twitter.com/Ali_Kourani/status/983855066250653697 they'll soon (if it happens) taste the fear they subjected the syrian people to. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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It's getting pretty late. I wonder if this thing isn't going to kick off for another day. I guess they were a little later last time, but it still kind of seems like it has to happen pretty soon if it's happening, especially if it's not just a few missiles this time.
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Sinteres posted:It's getting pretty late. I wonder if this thing isn't going to kick off for another day. lol it's not like militaries are on workday hours they'll do whatever whenever. I'll give it 24 -36 hours, if nothing happens after that the chances of a strike happening will be exponentially less.
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Al-Saqr posted:lol it's not like militaries are on workday hours they'll do whatever whenever. I'm just assuming they'll want to start at night local time, and starting when people in the US are actually awake to hear about it is generally how these things work out too. Tomorrow's not unreasonable either way, I think everyone's just kind of anxious to see what's going to happen. I think nothing happening is basically impossible at this point though--Obama at least had the excuse that the Europeans weren't on board, but Macron and May are right there with Trump [edit: or not?]. Russia's talking tougher than they did back then, but Trump has his own reasons not to walk away looking like he caved completely to Putin, even if concern about a Russian response could (reasonably) affect how severe the strikes end up being. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/afneil/status/983823112381792256?s=19 It appears the UK isn't onboard.
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Al-Saqr posted:they'll soon (if it happens) taste the fear they subjected the syrian people to. How erect were you when you typed this?
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thatfatkid posted:How erect were you when you typed this? This is a cool question for an actual Arab guy living under a regime that could turn the guns on him someday.
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Grape posted:This is a cool question for an actual Arab guy living under a regime that could turn the guns on him someday. All he's gotta do is answer "very" and he's good to go. *resumes the fetal position, chanting "the coalition are the good guys, they're bombing the bad guys, the coalition are the good guys, they're bombing the bad guys..."*
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The fact that trump stated a response within 24 to 75 hours, but states it hours after initial twitter response is a clock-resetting technique to give them more time. I would say at the earliest 24 hours from now, at the latest The US is trying to gain other countries to join its coalition before doing any sort of attack. Very different from the last time where it was solely a US Response, I'm sure Macron will be sending a few volleys of cruise missiles on behalf of the french people. And he proclaimed this prior so i'd suspect its a well known fact that he would not hesitate to follow the US similar to Tony Blair. Bolton is obviously giving Trump a massive earload, with the fact that he now wants the Homeland security advisor to quit so he can fill his own people in, I say we will see a very large scale response. No fly Zone won't be enough. This is a buildup. and a show of force to Russia, it's our time to show how real we are about keeping the ME in order. Rus
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/afneil/status/983823112381792256?s=19  Really? Really??? I'm sure there's some Russian diplomat furiously typing up a memo in response. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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Extremely cool that the poster who rambles on and on about how every party involved but the "rebels" are fascists can say they feel "an enormous sense of vengeance" in response to a coming major escalation of the war along with US (and possibly british/french) missiles being fired at "assadists" (aka the syrian army and civilians not in rebel/kurdish held areas) so that they can "taste the fear" and dweebs still rush to their defense the instant anyone questions it.
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Al-Saqr posted:not gonna lie, seeing all the assadists poo poo their pants over the possible strikes that may or may not happen is giving me an enormous sense of vengeance for their victims:- Hell Yeah. Taste The Fear, that dude's concerned family and friends, Taste It!!! Time to Eat Lead you Assadist fucks!!! Ooh Rah
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Wanna bet that what'll happen is that the US will perform some bombings of airfields and grounded aircraft, Trump will bloviate about being a tough cool dude, the SAA will be barely effected, continue to bloodily grind down the last remaining pockets of resistance, maybe without outright using chemical weapons from now on, and the guys suddenly extremely concerned about the victims of the war in Syria will go back to not giving a poo poo?
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khwarezm posted:Wanna bet that what'll happen is that the US will perform some bombings of airfields and grounded aircraft, Trump will bloviate about being a tough cool dude, the SAA will be barely effected, continue to bloodily grind down the last remaining pockets of resistance, maybe without outright using chemical weapons from now on, and the guys suddenly extremely concerned about the victims of the war in Syria will go back to not giving a poo poo? You never know, Trump might demand that the attacks go right into the heart of the Damascus Four Seasons because his brain spiders tell him he can build a trump hotel there if it's knocked down.
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Morzhovyye posted:Extremely cool that the poster who rambles on and on about how every party involved but the "rebels" are fascists can say they feel "an enormous sense of vengeance" in response to a coming major escalation of the war along with US (and possibly british/french) missiles being fired at "assadists" (aka the syrian army and civilians not in rebel/kurdish held areas) so that they can "taste the fear" and dweebs still rush to their defense the instant anyone questions it.
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khwarezm posted:Wanna bet that what'll happen is that the US will perform some bombings of airfields and grounded aircraft, Trump will bloviate about being a tough cool dude, the SAA will be barely effected, continue to bloodily grind down the last remaining pockets of resistance, maybe without outright using chemical weapons from now on, and the guys suddenly extremely concerned about the victims of the war in Syria will go back to not giving a poo poo? I don't know what else it could be. A larger response could bring Russia in, which I think France and the UK at least would be worried about.
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Russia has an extremely limited potential to project force. All of that poo poo is just posturing.
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Russia does not and will not respond to US strikes any more than they already do. Theyre not starting ww3 over assad. Russia will continue to collateralize assads anti terrorist activities until he ends up in a villa in Serchenko russia.
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HorrificExistence posted:Russia has an extremely limited potential to project force. All of that poo poo is just posturing. Well they're not invading France over this but they could shoot down aircraft.
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Russia has spent way to much time and effort on Assad to tolerate anything other than a slap on the wrist regarding the chemical attack. They aren't toothless, there's lots of things they could still do to make things miserable for America and pals still.
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Eurocontrol warns airlines of possible missile strikes into Syria Pan-European air traffic control agency Eurocontrol on Tuesday warned airlines to exercise caution in the eastern Mediterranean due to the possible launch of air strikes into Syria in next 72 hours.
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lollontee posted:I didn't say it didn't have consequences. I said. Consequences. In. Syria. So uhh, American tanks which were invited in by a democratically elected government of a country bordering Russia are an intolerable provocation which risks nuclear war, and instead these countries should be abandoned to Russian influence, but assassinating Russian allies is totally fine? Or are your positions in one thread also carefully cordoned off from your positions in another? Much like your brain from reality?
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Shageletic posted:OMG I'm reading about the city MBS wants to build, Neom, and it's like a child thought about it 
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Here's Bellingcat's analysis of the open source material, for those who care: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2018/04/11/open-source-survey-alleged-chemical-attacks-douma-7th-april-2018/
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Shageletic posted:and lol
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MBS isn't known for having ideas and plans deeply rooted in reality. However it seems that Macron has decided that SA and MBS are important enough allies for France that he will placate them. It does make me wonder about the French military presence in Rojava at the moment - are the French active there because of a request from MBS? Wouldn't surprise me at this point.
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Goodmorning everybody. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984022625440747520 and good luck!
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In times such as this it’s reassuring to have a super stable genius in command.
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Trump sounds high on the power he has. I reckon his generals aren't too happy with him tweeting out future military operations though. It could even end up with the missile attack being cancelled.
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Remember when Russia was saying there wasn't even a chemical attack in Douma? Those days are over! https://twitter.com/AP/status/984032736385085440
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Brown Moses posted:Remember when Russia was saying there wasn't even a chemical attack in Douma? Those days are over! Hahahaha, perfect
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