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Beauty and the Beast was so bad and looked so cheap. It’s infuriating to know it made so much.
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euphronius posted:4 billion was a ridiculous steal. IIRC the sale was in part motivated in anticipation of some tax loopholes being closed and companies being eager to spend huge amounts of offshore money rather than actually have to pay taxes on it in the future. Same with Microsoft buying Minecraft for $2.5 billion.
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Guy Mann posted:IIRC the sale was in part motivated in anticipation of some tax loopholes being closed and companies being eager to spend huge amounts of offshore money rather than actually have to pay taxes on it in the future. Same with Microsoft buying Minecraft for $2.5 billion. And Activision buying King (of Candy Crush fame) for over 6 billion dollars?
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Brother Entropy posted:christ that movie was totally in my blindspot then, didn't hear anyone I know who saw it or even mentioned wanting to see it Until I saw the Honest Trailer for it yesterday I didn't even know the movie existed. And then I thought it was some weird 1st of April spoof of Moulin Rouge until I read this thread and realised this is a real movie that somehow was shown last year and made a lot of money and I never even knew.
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Beauty and the Beast 2017 had some wonky action sequencing towards the end and everything in the village was weirdly off-tone, but the costume, VFX and set design was 10/10 maximum lush in a way not seen in a blockbuster since Harry Potter 4, and that was more than enough to carry the movie.
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Apr 11, 2018 08:53
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chiasaur11 posted:It's not just that Last Jedi made less money (less than Black Panther, too, which nobody would believe if you said it a year ago). wow, i can't believe that star wars made less money than [checks notes] the most successful superhero movie of all time
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Gaston was also really good.
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http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-trump-feminism-1202748535/quote:Variety: You attended one of the women’s marches last year. What do you make of this latest wave of activism?
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If you think the Solo movie will be good then toxx for it
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Apr 11, 2018 14:11
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Jeb! Repetition posted:If you think the Solo movie will be good then toxx for it What definition of "good" are we using here?
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Apr 11, 2018 14:33
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jivjov posted:What definition of "good" are we using here? Satisfies the cretinous, aka fans of Star Wars.
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Apr 11, 2018 14:37
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jivjov posted:What definition of "good" are we using here? Since there's no objective measure it would be based on the honor system
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Apr 11, 2018 14:40
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There are objective measures of movie quality but it usually gets confused with “enjoyment” or “adherence to canon” .
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euphronius posted:There are objective measures of movie quality but it usually gets confused with “enjoyment” or “adherence to canon” . You can objectively measure how a film was received in general but the "goodness" is still subjective, so everyone who toxxes will just have to be honest with themselves about whether they consider it good or not
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Apr 11, 2018 14:44
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euphronius posted:4 billion was a ridiculous steal. It really was but then again, it pretty much all went to one guy.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:You can objectively measure how a film was received in general but the "goodness" is still subjective, so everyone who toxxes will just have to be honest with themselves about whether they consider it good or not Uh. No the quality of a movie is objective. If that’s what you mean by good. If you mean good as in “did I like it?” Then yeah sure.
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Solo will be available in 4k and therefore be of objectively high quality.
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euphronius posted:Uh. No the quality of a movie is objective. If that’s what you mean by good. No I mean the quality. There's no objective way to measure that
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You don’t think films have objective quality. Really.
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You just fit the film between the callipers here, like so, and then when we tip out the ball-bearings at the end we can weigh them and know exactly how objectively good the film was.
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euphronius posted:You don’t think films have objective quality. I believe some films are higher or lower quality than others but I recognize this is an opinion and not a fact
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Apr 11, 2018 15:26
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Jeb! Repetition posted:If you think the Solo movie will be good then toxx for it Imagine being this fixated on hating a movie, let alone one nobody has even seen yet.
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Apr 11, 2018 15:35
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Guy Mann posted:Imagine being this fixated on hating a movie, let alone one nobody has even seen yet. People are posting about it and reminding me of it and I want the optimistic minority to put their money where their mouth is
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Apr 11, 2018 15:37
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viral spiral posted:
Contextually updated and adjusted for modern numbers. ESB is clearly a box failure and disappointment when compared to ANH. ANH $1.31B ESB $720M How do you come off such a gigantic hit and pull in almost half the numbers? And oh wait... TPM $778M AOTC $477M Seems to be some weird trend there... Box office has a ton of factors involved beyond film quality. i.e. release window, release competition, audience excitement, word of mouth, etc.. For what it's worth, TLJ's money retention from the previous trilogy starter is at 67%. ESB had 55% and AOTC had 61%.
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All franchises/series/trilogies have diminishing returns, it's just a matter of knowing when the bottom is about to fall out. And when you're bringing in a billion+ on each film I think it's hard to argue that you're at that point yet. Batman and Robin is a good example of knowing when to cut bait. Its not like it didn't make money, it made about 240 million. But other factors indicated that audiences were done with Batman and so they rightfully ended it.
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One piece of evidence will be if Rian Johnson gets another Star Wars film. If he does that is good evidence Lucasfilm was happy with TLJ.
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Teek posted:Contextually updated and adjusted for modern numbers. ESB is clearly a box failure and disappointment when compared to ANH. Once again, TLJ's box office returns were disastrous by Disney's standards. Read. Revenue dropped by 70% during its second weekend.
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euphronius posted:One piece of evidence will be if Rian Johnson gets another Star Wars film. If he does that is good evidence Lucasfilm was happy with TLJ. They announced he's doing a whole Star Wars trilogy.
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viral spiral posted:Once again, TLJ's box office returns were disastrous by Disney's standards. Read. ...which are?
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Detective No. 27 posted:They announced he's doing a whole Star Wars trilogy. I know. I was being snarky.
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viral spiral posted:Once again, TLJ's box office returns were disastrous by Disney's standards. Read. Conversely, no, it's not disastrous by Disney's standards. It made over a billion dollars worldwide, and currently only 3 movies of Disney's have made more, TFA, Avengers, and Avengers 2. (Though, to be fair, Black Panther will probably pass it at this point.) Picking out it's 2nd weekend drop doesn't really mean anything in the overall picture. It made a ton of money, and Disney wants him to make his own trilogy. There is zero reason to believe Disney is planning any course correction due to this extremely successful movie, and plenty of evidence to say they are quite happy.
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And none of that means they didn't have meetings or whatever to discuss why they had that second week drop, and to try to prevent that from happening in the future. It doesn't mean they're taking it as a sign that the whole direction of the franchise has to be revamped.
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Basebf555 posted:And none of that means they didn't have meetings or whatever to discuss why they had that second week drop, and to try to prevent that from happening in the future. It doesn't mean they're taking it as a sign that the whole direction of the franchise has to be revamped. Let us all hope that Disney's astrologers don't misread the portents.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:People are posting about it and reminding me of it and I want the optimistic minority to put their money where their mouth is Why don't you toxx that's it's going to be bad?
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I'm going to enjoy the movie just to spite you
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Detective No. 27 posted:They announced he's doing a whole Star Wars trilogy. Didn't they announce this the week of (ie before) the opening?
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Ammanas posted:Didn't they announce this the week of (ie before) the opening? It was before the film opened; yes. I have to imagine the billion dollars TLJ raked in are making them reconsider only giving him 3 more.
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Do we think Disney will mitigate this disaster?
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UmOk posted:Do we think Disney will mitigate this disaster? disney is the disaster
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