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CompeAnansi posted:I just bought into Gx tron and then remembered afterwards that they are printing that sideboard hate card in the next set. Hopefully it doesn't change much. Just bring more Nature's Claims and laugh all the way to the T3 Karn bank
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:I suspect they will hold reserve list reprints as a “break glass in case of emergency” type maneuver in the event interest in the game and sales take a nosedive at some point in the future. Definitely possible, but I think if they get to that point the game is probably hosed anyway, and obvious desperation moves won't reverse course for long. I think putting effort into maintaining healthy eternal formats is much better for game longevity, since it allows players to drop in and out of the game over time, and maintain a connection/interest to the game even when they don't enjoy or can't afford Standard. I think you also minimize whatever hypothetical issues breaking the reserved list pledge would create if you're doing it at a time when the game enjoys a position of relative strength, rather than when it would signal weakness and internal loss of faith in the game's long-term prospects. But clearly the people running the show don't agree. LGD fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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CompeAnansi posted:I just bought into Gx tron and then remembered afterwards that they are printing that sideboard hate card in the next set. Hopefully it doesn't change much. Tron will be fine. It's good at consistently hitting land drops and it's hard for opponents to take a turn off like that while still applying enough pressure to win before Oblivion Stone blows them out. People already run Thought-Knot Seer and Thragtusk in their sideboard to punish opponents who can take them off tron.
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CompeAnansi posted:I just bought into Gx tron and then remembered afterwards that they are printing that sideboard hate card in the next set. Hopefully it doesn't change much. Blood Moon couldn’t stop the Tron and this is a turn faster Blood Moon that doesn’t actually stop them from producing colourless mana. It’ll hurt but it’s not unbeatable.
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LGD posted:Definitely possible, but I think if they get to that point the game is probably hosed anyway, and obvious desperation moves won't reverse course for long. I think putting effort into maintaining healthy eternal formats is much better for game longevity, since it allows players to drop in and out of the game over time, and maintain a connection/interest to the game even when they don't enjoy or can't afford Standard. I think you also minimize whatever hypothetical issues breaking the reserved list pledge would create if you're doing it at a time when the game enjoys a position of relative strength, rather than when it would signal weakness and internal loss of faith in the game's long-term prospects. Well maybe they would do it short of a last ditch effort to save the game, for all the reasons you stated. But as long as people are entering legacy events and new products are selling well, I’d at least expect them to take the attitude that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:But as long as people are entering legacy events They very much do not care about this.
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suicidesteve posted:They very much do not care about this. On the other hand, if Legacy events do drop in attendance significantly, they'll drop the format like a hot potato.
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Looking to register something like this for GP Sydney (Unified Modern). Sort of optimised to have better game against Tron game 1 as I am expecting a lot of it in the middle seat. No conflict with my Affinity and BR Hollow One team mates. I tried running 2 JTMS in the main for the past month but haven't been impressed unless it's against control which I doubt most teams will run mid. Notes: - Looking to beat BR hollow one, Affinity, Humans, all variations of tron and eldrazi, infect, jund - Hoping to dodge control, lantern, burn - Tireless Trackers have been too slow in the matchups above, except Jund, so I've cut them completely. Might fit one or two in the sideboard. - 2 Geist main because I wanted a 3 drop that's decent against Tron (Originally in the SB) - I have gotten to use Sejiri Steppe exactly twice in the past few weeks so I've cut it for another Ghost Quarter. Field of Ruin I assume is too slow. Questions: - Should I try to fit another Qasali Pridemage somewhere? Maybe replacing Path? - Would it be too greedy to run Kessig alongside VClique? VClique has been a house against all my matchups and will definitely stay as a 2-of. It also might require a replacement for Stomping Ground. Deck: Knightfall    //Lands 2 Breeding Pool 1 Flooded Strand 3 Forest 1 Gavony Township 2 Ghost Quarter 1 Hallowed Fountain 1 Horizon Canopy 1 Island 4 Misty Rainforest 1 Plains 1 Temple Garden 4 Windswept Heath //Spells 4 Collected Company 1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar 3 Path to Exile 2 Retreat to Coralhelm //Creatures 4 Birds of Paradise 2 Geist of Saint Traft 4 Knight of the Reliquary 4 Noble Hierarch 1 Qasali Pridemage 2 Reflector Mage 2 Scavenging Ooze 4 Spell Queller 2 Vendilion Clique 3 Voice of Resurgence //Sideboard 2 Blessed Alliance 1 Bojuka Bog 1 Eidolon of Rhetoric 2 Negate 1 Path to Exile 1 Settle the Wreckage 3 Stony Silence 2 Unified Will 1 Worship 1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor  Display deck statistics
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--Worship seems like a better maindeck singleton than Gideon in this deck, at least from what I've seen on streams. Some of the decks that you're worried about have almost no way of dealing with a Worship game 1. --I think a singleton Pridemage maindeck is how a lot of these decks are rolling these days, but I would definitely try to fit another one or some Rec Sages in your sideboard (but don't cut Paths for them). --Field of Ruin does look kind of slow but I've seen a lot of different archetypes moving towards Fields over Quarters, that might be worth a second look.
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C-Euro posted:--Worship seems like a better maindeck singleton than Gideon in this deck, at least from what I've seen on streams. Some of the decks that you're worried about have almost no way of dealing with a Worship game 1. Field of Ruin isn’t as good as Quarter in this deck because you want to be able to pop it with Knight almost every time. I’m looking at your list and I’m wondering what the Geists are for, they’re phenomenal against Tron but stone dead to the top 3 matchups you listed and I don’t think it matches up well against Jund. I think you’re better off boarding at least one for Path. I think 3 Stony Silence is too many especially without Jace to shuffle back extras. If you want to run the Kessig package I think you could shave your 9th fetch and either the second Quarter or a forest and run it reasonably comfortably. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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Any Tips and Tricks for someone playing Living End for the first time tonight? Seems like a pretty standard build, but my buddy put 4 of the White Leyline in the SB for some reason.
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fadam posted:Any Tips and Tricks for someone playing Living End for the first time tonight? Seems like a pretty standard build, but my buddy put 4 of the White Leyline in the SB for some reason. Cycle cards, cast a cascade spell. Repeat if necessary. Remember that Violent Outburst is an instant and Beast Within can give you a target for Demonic Dread. You can't ever beat burn without Leylines.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:00
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Play As Foretold Living End. It is the superior brew. 
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Alright. I want to visit the old Boom//Bust decks now that Jace and Bloodbraid are unbanned. The big question is what direction to go in. Naya or Jeskai. With the understanding that Green/Blue would be the splash color and that the mana based would have the following: 4 Flagstones of Trokair 2 - 3 Darksteel Citadel 8+ fetches of proper types What would be the more reliable route to go? Jace doesn't need anything else to close out the came, and BBE can't cascade into Boom anymore. But the best parts of blue require it to be the primary color (e.g.; Cryptic, 1 mana cantrips; early counterspells, Collanade). Same issue with green mana dorks, but Tireless Tracker would be baller as a value engine. Or would it be better to go Boros and just lean on Chandra, Torch and/or Nahiri + Emmi to finish the game?
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LGD posted:Definitely possible, but I think if they get to that point the game is probably hosed anyway, and obvious desperation moves won't reverse course for long. I think putting effort into maintaining healthy eternal formats is much better for game longevity, since it allows players to drop in and out of the game over time, and maintain a connection/interest to the game even when they don't enjoy or can't afford Standard. I think you also minimize whatever hypothetical issues breaking the reserved list pledge would create if you're doing it at a time when the game enjoys a position of relative strength, rather than when it would signal weakness and internal loss of faith in the game's long-term prospects. Sure they do, it's most likely why Modern was created.
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Has anyone played Elves in Modern? Considering it Top 8'd at the past GP and I watched Reid Duke play a Vizier version recently, I was considering putting it together as it looks fun as hell, but need the Caverns and some of the dual lands. What match ups are it bad for it? It seems like either Ugin or other combo decks could be real bad for it, but would otherwise be even or good against a lot of the other popular decks. I may be reading it wrong though.
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You can't beat a combo deck with a reasonable draw. Tron is probably a nightmare game 1 but if you have Selfless Spirit you might have a chance post-board. Burn and affinity both seem bad. Also any decks that can present a similar clock but with flyers. I only lost my match against elves as Bant Spirits because she skillfully sided in Choke against a deck with almost no islands and I was skilled enough to have drawn 3 of my 4 islands AND miss my 5th land. Tl;dr ban 8th and 9th edition. Also you're good against fair decks.
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Yoked posted:Has anyone played Elves in Modern? Considering it Top 8'd at the past GP and I watched Reid Duke play a Vizier version recently, I was considering putting it together as it looks fun as hell, but need the Caverns and some of the dual lands. Affinity will usually out-goldfish you game one, and both sides have comparable sideboard bombs against each other (stony silence for elves vs. ghirapur aether grid and grafdigger's cage for affinity). You have a very limited ability to play around any kind of sweepers. Other combo decks are either a bit faster (storm, grishoalbrand) or can time walk you to death (ad nauseam, U-based scapeshift).
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Anyone wanna help a person decide on a Legacy deck? I’m looking at selling out of a bunch of my EDH stuff so I can build a deck for local events with a pretty diverse meta. I’ve been borrowing Food Chain for the last couple of months and having a good time with it, but I can’t decide on what to build for myself. My collection currently puts me closest to Maverick or Death & Taxes. I was also thinking of maybe U/W Stoneblade or Miracles since I could port Jaces and Snapcasters into Modern control lists. Besides, is it really Legacy if you aren’t casting Brainstorm and Force of Will? Alternately, I could try to find a good deal on duals and get towards my own build of Food Chain since I’ve got some reps with it and I like the play patterns I’ve experienced. It’s all a bit overwhelming and given the price of a deck, I don’t want to build something I end up disliking.
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Do you want to win or do you just want to play legacy? If you just want to play, Death and Taxes is just barely above unplayable and is the cheapest deck that's not super linear. Maverick is like Death and Taxes except in addition to not being able to beat midrange and having a hard time against control, you also can't beat combo. Stoneblade I don't think has been good ever, or at least in 5+ years. Miracles is fine but it still seems really bad to me. I hate the idea of relying on Search for Azcanta. Like if you're getting to a point where Search for Azcanta is good as a control deck, you've probably already won the game. I will say that once you've stabilized, Search for Azcanta makes it almost impossible for your opponent to claw back into the game. If you're playing Deathrite and not playing Delver or Jace, you're making a mistake. Also if you're not playing Deathrite you're making a mistake.
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suicidesteve posted:Do you want to win or do you just want to play legacy? If you just want to play, Death and Taxes is just barely above unplayable and is the cheapest deck that's not super linear. Maverick is like Death and Taxes except in addition to not being able to beat midrange and having a hard time against control, you also can't beat combo. Stoneblade I don't think has been good ever, or at least in 5+ years. Miracles is fine but it still seems really bad to me. I hate the idea of relying on Search for Azcanta. Like if you're getting to a point where Search for Azcanta is good as a control deck, you've probably already won the game. I will say that once you've stabilized, Search for Azcanta makes it almost impossible for your opponent to claw back into the game. If you're playing Deathrite and not playing Delver or Jace, you're making a mistake. Also if you're not playing Deathrite you're making a mistake. Stoneblade was fine right after TNN was printed and people somehow couldn't figure out how to deal with it, though that's riding right up on the 5 year mark at this point. There was also a minor resurgence during cruise/dig meta, but both of these were more favorable to UWR delver and Deathblade than to Stoneblade. kirtar fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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suicidesteve posted:Also if you're not playing Deathrite you're making a mistake. Lands would like a word with you.
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Merely owning a Tabernacle instead of turning it into cash money probably qualifies as some sort of mistake.
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Jabor posted:Merely owning a Tabernacle instead of turning it into cash money probably qualifies as some sort of mistake. I like my autographed one so much I just ordered the Tabernacle playmat off Etsy to match it.
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kirtar posted:Stoneblade was fine right after TNN was printed and people somehow couldn't figure out how to deal with it, though that's riding right up on the 5 year mark at this point. There was also a minor resurgence during cruise/dig meta, but both of these were more favorable to UWR delver and Deathblade than to Stoneblade. Those times you're talking about were the same time. I didn't feel like mentioning every time Stoneblade actually was good for 3 days, not that I think it was a good deck back then. And UWR Delver was never a good deck. UR Delver was the deck when Cruise was legal and Omnitell after that.
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suicidesteve posted:Those times you're talking about were the same time. I didn't feel like mentioning every time Stoneblade actually was good for 3 days, not that I think it was a good deck back then. And UWR Delver was never a good deck. UR Delver was the deck when Cruise was legal and Omnitell after that. They were offset by nearly a year since it was Commander 2013 and Khans of Tarkir.
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suicidesteve posted:You can't beat a combo deck with a reasonable draw. Tron is probably a nightmare game 1 but if you have Selfless Spirit you might have a chance post-board. Burn and affinity both seem bad. Also any decks that can present a similar clock but with flyers. I only lost my match against elves as Bant Spirits because she skillfully sided in Choke against a deck with almost no islands and I was skilled enough to have drawn 3 of my 4 islands AND miss my 5th land. Steve how is your  list doing these days? I only need one more Geist of St. Traft at minimum to finish the deck.
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C-Euro posted:Steve how is your I don't know, I don't play this bad game. I just complain about how bad it is. I'm sure if I liked it they would just ban something to completely kill yet another deck that I like. The missing card in the sideboard was a Jace. Jace is trash in modern. Don't play Jace. I think I have 3 mana Nissa in there right now just to try whenever I go play modern again (probably never.) Edit: Nope, Shapers' Sanctuary. Which is also probably bad and should just be the 2nd War Monk or something. kirtar posted:They were offset by nearly a year since it was Commander 2013 and Khans of Tarkir. Huh. I vividly remember people whining about Containment Priest ruining GP New Jersey because it made Sneak and Show bad, like somehow Sneak and Show being bad was a bad thing. After doing 5 seconds of research, I've figured out the problem. Apparently Containment Priest was not in the same set as Trash-Name. Who knew?  I really should have known that though. I lost to triplex True-Names at one of the GPTs for Jersey. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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I've also been considering Maverick for a while and this tournament report made me think that if you know the format well enough then it's not that bad of a deck choice. https://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comments/8by6px/legacy_tournament_report_top_8_at_gp_seattle_with/
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C-Euro posted:Steve how is your deck is still fine. Although I went to 21 land because I'm daring and bad.
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CompeAnansi posted:I just bought into Gx tron and then remembered afterwards that they are printing that sideboard hate card in the next set. Hopefully it doesn't change much. if anything is going to hurt tron, I think it's the rise of GR Stone Rain as a common strategy. The matchup is not unwinnable by a long shot, but having played it from the Ponza side a bunch lately, hoo boy is this a better Tron matchup than I've ever had, even moreso against Gx than against Eldrazi.
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Just stopping by to say "lmao" at the Tabernacle buyout.
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Baldrash posted:Anyone wanna help a person decide on a Legacy deck? blue control is not very good or particularly fun in modern. i think you should play food chain because you get to play with force of will, brainstorm, and deathrite shaman, which are all cards you should ahve in your legacy deck if your intention is to win matches of magic: the gathering in the legacy format. as a testament to the power fo those cards, I, a person that once killed themselves with a brainstorm while having a laboratory maniac on the field against my opponent's humility, have won many matches of magic: the gathering because of those cards
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:blue control is not very good or particularly fun in modern. Rest of your post is whatever but this is purely opinion and I think UW control in modern is actually super fun. I have played it off and on for a good while and it is fun if you don't mind going to time every round. Has a lovely matchup against hollow one though. You can win with almost anything in modern, really.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:this is purely opinion Fingers McLongDong posted:I think UW control in modern is actually super fun.
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