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lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


gmq: Attempt #1

Makoto, because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix7UBJOHtM

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Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

Pretty sure Decarabia is still weak to Phys as a Persona. It's not to hard to get a Null/Repel Phys skill on it from prison or fusion, though.

Oh, whoops. The Megaten wiki formats it differently for enemies vs. Personas and I missed it.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

gmq posted:

gmq: Attempt #1

Makoto, because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix7UBJOHtM

This is a really powerful argument.

OneWingedDevil
Aug 27, 2012
OneWingedDevil: Attempt 1

You know what would be an even bigger shocker to Sae than hooking up with Makoto? If we hooked up with Sae instead!

Just think of how our future life could go:

Sae: You've been able to evade my questions for so long... you must be dating someone in law enforcement. WHO'S YOUR ACCOMPLICE, SCUMBAG?!
Maaku: Uh, you were. And stay away from the "scumbag" stuff, please, I'm just a little late to dinner because of the train delay...

Sae: So, Phantom Thief, how did you manage to steal my heart? ANSWER ME!
Maaku: I paid a fortune teller a lot of money. She's pretty sweet like that.

Sae: Hey, I'm home. How was your day, hon-
Maaku: I'm breaking up with you for your sister.

mycelia
Apr 28, 2013

POWERFUL FUNGAL LORD



mycelia: Attempt #1

What's better than bros being bros? Bros being more than bros, bro.

Romance Ryuji. Bro.

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

Tempest_56: Attempt #1

As the Phantom Thief of Hearts, we must have standards. Obviously there's some confidants who we could romance, but if they're not good enough to be a Phantom Thief they obviously aren't good enough to date. Also, several of the possibilities (I have no idea which ones are and aren't) are creepy.

So our real choices:
A swimsuit model in a leather cat suit. Ann's nice and all, but that's a boring choice.
Some chick we just met who's dressed like a Musketeer. Haru hasn't really had the time to show much, but what we have seen is that she's willing to take orders from a cat. Pass.
Female Sam Fisher in a tentacle UFO. Normally I'm all for redheads but that aesthetic infers a lot about her porn habits. Also, can you imagine Maaku having a real conversation with Futaba? Total non-compatable in terms of interests there.
A goody-two-shoes turned leather-clad biker chick. Now we're talking! Not only is it corrupting the innocent brown-noser to a life of HEART CRIME but of the options she's obviously got the most rebel, gently caress-the-man aesthetic going on. And she's obviously got the brains and wits to be fun to hang with. Plus it'll piss off Sae.

Thus the only choice is obviously Makoto


Tempest_56: Attempt #2

To follow up on gmq: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnhl6Jhz75g

More Makoto. It is the only true answer.

Tempest_56: Attempt #3

Additional follow up: Makoto is canon. You can tell because in the trailer for P5: Dancing Star Night she's the only one who's pictured dancing with Joker.

Makoto is canon.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
I think the corpse of the principal is obviously the best choice here.

No entry needed, it’s just so utterly self-evident.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
Mraagvpeine: Attempt #1

I say Chihaya Mifune because with her at our side we can control fate itself.

TheDavies
Mar 27, 2010
TheDavies: Attempt #1

The path that we walk is one opposed to law and virtue, in which we lead a double life. Some have spoken in favor of romancing Makoto, to further tempt her away from law and virtue. Yet there is another, better way to demonstrate our contempt for the mundane, our ability to dismiss the pathetic banality of real life. There is someone out there who has also abandoned law and virtue, who was living a double life long before we were. And to romance this individual is itself a crime! Yes -- romance Kawakami!#

TheDavies fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Apr 11, 2018

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Blademaster_Aio: Attempt # 1:

Haru


I was a member of the forever alone club though.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

really queer Christmas Attempt #1:

Collect all the waifus and husbandos. Leave no heart unstolen, no love note unwritten, no pick up line unused. Joker is a dick, and we need to make sure everyone sees his dick.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Conglaturation!!

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I also decided to go back and fulfill a promise I made many, many months ago to some poor poster in this thread who just wanted me to organize the update links in the OP in some fashion so they wouldn't have to do so much guessing to figure out what happened where. I finally did the bare minimum, barely addressing that issue by adding the following section headers:















I also trimmed the OP a bit, added a link at the top directly to My Bad Idea, and added the following bits:

Arist posted:

What are you going for?

To see as much as possible. That means all or most Confidants. If we can’t fit all of them in I’ll find another way to show them off, whatever, but I’ll also be loosely following a guide to help out with it. I say “loosely” because the only one right now advocates maxing some of the party members before dungeon 3 and screw that. If we have to get them to Rank 9 and back off for a bit, that’s fine. The real issue is just stats and when to boost what, which hopefully will become a non-issue with help from this. edit: lol we ditch that poo poo like a month in, buckle up kids

I tuned into this LP and it was loving bugnuts, what the hell are you trying to pull here?

Persona 5 is a very long, and in parts very repetitive game. To break up the monotony and make things a bit more entertaining for your sake (but primarily my own), over the course of this LP I indulge in bad Photoshops, worse jokes, and the occasional inexplicable narrative experiment “guest update.” If that’s not enough to scare you off, go right ahead and… enjoy?????

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




GhostStalker posted:

When you first meet her in game and she joins your party, Haru seems like the cinnamon roll character who must be protected and all that.

What a weird thing to say when we've already met Tora, Futaba and Hifumi.

Karia
Mar 27, 2013

Self-portrait, Snake on a Plane
Oil painting, c. 1482-1484
Leonardo DaVinci (1452-1591)

Karia: Entry #1
We have spoken to God for advice, and received no response. Heaven hold no answers for us. We must turn our eyes down and embrace the dark with the hidden rituals that have been passed to us. The demons below shall rend open the Earth to guide us to an unholy union!

Iä! A criminal, betrayed by society, forced to fight in secret using hidden powers. A lady clothed in orange, blue, and white, favored by the underworld for her dark and mysterious strategies. Together, they will lead the forces of hell to unstoppable victory! Iä! He shall rend their hearts as she commands the deep dragons to unleash their hellfire.

Iä! Iä! Their partnership shall bring forth the end of days and engulf the world in darkness! They shall rue the day that Maaku Hamiru and Hifumi Togo joined forces.

Iä! Dehumanize yourself and face to shogi! Iä!

Karia fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Apr 12, 2018

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.


Jade Rider: Entry #1

Makoto, for the well-documented reason of pissing off Sae.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
DreamingofRoses: Attempt 1

Makoto. Two words: biker chick. Not just with her persona but she has an actual license, y'all. You always go for the adorable one with a ride.

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


gmq: Attempt 2
Not Futaba: she's your sister, you sicko.

Weeble
Feb 26, 2016
Weeble: Attemp #1

Kawakami

It's not quite 1st Girl Wins, but close enough.
She's a Meido and a mature older woman, and I firmly believe Maaku is in to that.
The pull of the Forbidden Teacher/Student Romance is quite strong, and what is Maaku if not a rebel to society's rules and norms?

Also, the reaction once a certain character finds out about the romance is amazing.

Finally, not taking the romance path makes the Rank 10 skill kind of super awkward.


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Well... that was certainly interesting to type out.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
TheOneAndOnlyT: Attempt #1

gmq posted:

Not Futaba: she's your sister, you sicko.

DON'T DATE YOUR LITTLE SISTER.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

joker has absolutely no reason to see futaba as anything approaching a little sister

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

gmq posted:

gmq: Attempt #1

Makoto, because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix7UBJOHtM


Kal-L: Attempt #2

That video led me to a way better version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Zpw4MqwvE Makoto!

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

TheOneAndOnlyT: Attempt #1


DON'T DATE YOUR LITTLE SISTER.

In my headcanon, Yusuke and Futaba end up together, since they tease each other so much already.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

gmq posted:

gmq: Attempt 2
Not Futaba: she's your sister, you sicko.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzdltnvz6T0

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.

Dog Kisser posted:

I don't know much about the game, but I feel pretty secure in saying she's the best choice for the MC. Always date someone way smarter and cooler than you!

Makoto.

Eeepies
May 29, 2013

Bocchi-chan's... dead.
We'll have to find a new guitarist.
Eeepies: Attempt #1

You are a Phantom thief. Right now, the entire offline world is available to you, but the online possibilities are not within your grasp. Thus, you should hook up with Futaba so that you can be the two love-thieves stealing everything from everyone while enjoying a grand time together. A married life of shadows, stealth, and the knowledge that no one is safe from your combined efforts.
(20 years later)
Sae: I know you have had a lot of help in doing all your online thieving activities. WHO!?

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Lord_Magmar: Attempt #3 Once more I implore you, Maaku Hamiru must steal the hearts of as many people as possible, and should thus flirt constantly and incessantly with everyone he can. However his physical reach is not enough, he must go higher, he must flirt with everyone in the world and steal their hearts as well. To this end he should form a mutually beneficial romantic relationship with one Futaba Sakura, where they shall rule the hearts of both the real and virtual worlds. Also then Sojiro will actually be his dad and that seems like a worthy goal in of itself, certainly better then the parents who abandoned poor Maaku to the big city, plus we can flirt with Sojiro as well and make everything about our cool new family more awkward than it probably already is.

Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Apr 12, 2018

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Ibblebibble: Attempt #1
Haru because she has the best m'lady hat tip for her AOA portrait.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Funky Valentine: Attempt #1

Let's be perfectly frank here: we need to go with Makoto because Maaku has to tell Sae to her face that he hosed her sister in the attic and they went out to eat giant burgers afterwards.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
GeneX: Attempt #1

Okay seriously let's date that homeless dude who may or may not be a murderer for hire.

You want a goddamn rebel? There's your goddamn rebel.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Psy and Nuke both as elements, huh? The collective unconscious is evolving.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

Glazius posted:

Psy and Nuke both as elements, huh? The collective unconscious is evolving.

Persona 3 removed those elements but they're not new to the series.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Stroth posted:

Persona 3 removed those elements but they're not new to the series.

Nuclear at least was in the first two (well, three, Persona 2 was two games) Personas, but Psychokinesis was only ever in the original Devil Summoner game.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Also, I should take this opportunity to point something out about Persona 1: It had a loving obscene number of damage types. There were the elemental attacks: Fire, Ice, Wind, and Earth; the Force attacks: Electric, Nuclear, Blast, and Gravity; The Holy skills: Expel, Miracle, Bless, and Prayer (though Miracle was only for certain moves, Bless was just healing and Prayer was buffs); The Dark skills: Death, Curse, Nerve, and Occult (Curse was certain moves, Nerve was negative statuses and Occult was positive statuses); and different Physical attacks types/melee attack types for different skills/every weapon in the game: Tech/Rush, Sword, Axe, Two-Hand, Spear, Whip, Fist, Arrow, Thrown, Handgun, Machine Gun, Shotgun, Rifle. There's also Special (neutral, the equivalent of P5's Almighty). Even ignoring Miracle, Bless, Prayer, Curse, Nerve, Occult, and Special as "real" damage types (they don't even get unique icons), that's twenty-three different types of damage.

It's a bad game.

Arist fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 12, 2018

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Persona 2 pared that down a lot, but it still had a ridiculous number of elements, and it includes a mechanic for combining elements for combo attacks, that's an insane amount of things the player was expected to either memorize or write down when playing.

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!

gmq posted:

gmq: Attempt 2
Not Futaba: she's your sister, you sicko.

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

TheOneAndOnlyT: Attempt #1


DON'T DATE YOUR LITTLE SISTER.

I'm pretty sure Futaba's not that younger than Maaku, and she's actually not your sister by blood if we are going to be technical about it. That being said, I am against dating her since her father is giving us room and board, and when he finds out-not if cause he will find out-he's going to kick us out at best or shank us in our sleep at worst. Also, it just feels awkward.

KDavisJr: Attempt 1

I vote Haru because she's so precious and deserve's a good man, and Maaku's a pretty decent guy.

Kevos Setzer
Dec 1, 2004

I can transform, right?

KDavisJr posted:

I'm pretty sure Futaba's not that younger than Maaku, and she's actually not your sister by blood if we are going to be technical about it. That being said, I am against dating her since her father is giving us room and board, and when he finds out-not if cause he will find out-he's going to kick us out at best or shank us in our sleep at worst. Also, it just feels awkward.

When you account for Sojiro's former profession (Have we learned that much yet?) I think he's more likely to shank us.

megane
Jun 20, 2008




If you have to ask "have we learned that yet" maybe you shouldn't post it

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!

Actually what you are implying is spoilers so I'd watch it.

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blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!
blackmongoose: Attempt #1

For a relationship, Maaku should find someone who closely matches his qualities. Currently, he has excellent, but not perfect Knowledge, Guts, Proficiency, Kindness, and Charm. Therefore, in order to determine a match for him, we should rate the confidants (as those are the people he is closest to) on those qualities, looking for ones who are solid, but not perfect in each.

The candidates:
(presumably) Haru: We don't know enough about her currently, but she seems pretty weak on Guts.
Fool: Although Igor could be said to have a strange Charm, I doubt he would rate highly on it. Also too Knowledgeable. Although this option would be hilarious.
Magician: Morgana is not as Knowledgeable as he likes to pretend, and definitely lacks kindness. Also, is a cat.
Priestess: Makoto is too good for Maaku. She is clearly max Knowledge and Guts at a minimum and probably Proficiency as well. Also, based on her confidant so far she seems to be aggressively working on improving the other two attributes.
Emperor: Yusuke may also be too good for Maaku. He is very hard to categorize on the game's social qualities. A decent potential option.
Hierophant: Don't date your surrogate parent. Also, clearly has all categories maxed and is far too good for Maaku.
Lovers: Ann has maxed charm probably, but seems lacking in proficiency. Potentially a good match
Chariot: Low knowledge, probably low proficiency. Ryuji is still best bro though.
Justice: Akechi lacks all Charm and probably Kindness. Plus, Maaku hates the police.
Hermit: Futaba is max knowledge, but low Guts and charm. Also, Maaku should not date someone in a quasi-familial relationship
Fortune: Chihaya is too weak in Knowledge and Guts.
Strength: Ummm, let's just move on
Hanged: Iwai has max proficiency and probably max guts. Also strong kindness and charm. Another one that's probably too good for Maaku, but is in the running.
Death: Potentially an excellent choice. Tae is clearly knowledgeable, brave, and kind, but not to excess. Being a doctor seems to fit in with Proficiency. Charm is a matter of opinion and potentially her weakness.
Temperance: Judging from her maid visits so far, Kawakami is not particularly high in Proficiency. Also teachers should not date students.
Devil. Ohya is totally lacking in Charm ("I'm secretly dating this high schooler!"). Also her confidant abilities suck.
Tower: Is a child. Next.
Star: Hifumi is possibly max knowledge, and otherwise falls nicely into the great but not perfect category. Probably low proficiency though.
Moon: Is Mishima. Next.
Sun: Yoshida is an excellent possibility. He is knowledgeable, kind, charming, and bold but not overwhelmingly so. Proficiency is in some doubt, but as a shady politician he probably has some skills. Mentor relationship makes it a bit questionable though.
Judgement: Sae has a distinct lack of Kindness. Bonus points for imagining the interrogation scene though

I did not intend to write this much, but based on the evaluations I think Yoshida is the closest match. However, I am disqualifying him because he has too much integrity to take advantage of his position of authority. Therefore my vote is for Hifumi Togo

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