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Tochiazuma posted:It would make more logical sense to have a solid plan, with carefully crafted goals for spending and targets and a slick ad campaign, all scheduled at a properly distant time as determined by PT6A but this shockingly isn't a fund created with pure logical goals in mind Well, that was essentially my question: is it just a purely emotional thing at this point? The answer appears to be yes. That's not necessarily wrong, but there's nothing wrong with pointing it out. RBC also made a reasonable point about how the money can actually help the affected families, beyond just "here have some money."
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PT6A posted:Well, that was essentially my question: is it just a purely emotional thing at this point? The answer appears to be yes. That's not necessarily wrong, but there's nothing wrong with pointing it out. RBC also made a reasonable point about how the money can actually help the affected families, beyond just "here have some money." Were you genuinely wondering whether people giving to a fund for 15 kids killed in a bus crash was an emotional rather than logical response? drat.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:https://twitter.com/fordnation/status/984143261500506112 Is this some attempt to set up a Shillary counterpart? He really is just reusing Trump's playbook.
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Tochiazuma posted:Were you genuinely wondering whether people giving to a fund for 15 kids killed in a bus crash was an emotional rather than logical response? Well, something can be emotionally driven but still have a concrete point. Like the March For Our Lives. Apparently this is not one of those things.
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Arivia posted:Is this some attempt to set up a Shillary counterpart? He really is just reusing Trump's playbook. his followers were trying to astroturf crooked christine during the leadership race
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Arivia posted:Is this some attempt to set up a Shillary counterpart? He really is just reusing Trump's playbook. What a ridiculous post. Trump crapped on Hillary despite umpteen investigations failing to find any evidence of wrong doing. Ford is jabbing the Liberals the day after senior Liberal was sent to prison for crooked politicking.
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Maneck posted:What a ridiculous post. Trump crapped on Hillary despite umpteen investigations failing to find any evidence of wrong doing. Ford is jabbing the Liberals the day after senior Liberal was sent to prison for crooked politicking. Normally we don't see it harped on in a tweet quite like that though. It's very Trump-like.
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Typo posted:his followers were trying to astroturf crooked christine during the leadership race remember when at the federal conservative convention people were shouting "lock her up" about rachel notley
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Dreylad posted:remember when at the federal conservative convention people were shouting "lock her up" about rachel notley loving lol that party
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Maneck posted:What a ridiculous post. Trump crapped on Hillary despite umpteen investigations failing to find any evidence of wrong doing. Ford is jabbing the Liberals the day after senior Liberal was sent to prison for crooked politicking. They don't call her Crooked Hillary because she gets convicted, I mean she was a 100% actual go-straight-to-hell war criminal lol. At her arraignment, note for the plaintiff, got your family locked up in Guantanamo Bay xtal fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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How was Hillary Clinton 100% definitely totally for sure a war criminal, please explain.
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Arivia posted:How was Hillary Clinton 100% definitely totally for sure a war criminal, please explain. Maybe you should put those words into Google instead of me so we don't derail the thread. Her positions are well documented (and hosed up)
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xtal posted:Maybe you should put those words into Google instead of me so we don't derail the thread. Her positions are well documented (and hosed up) Maybe you shouldn't poo poo and run without being prepared to defend your positions.
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PT6A posted:Maybe you shouldn't poo poo and run without being prepared to defend your positions. There are 7 millions results, you can start with the extrajudicial killings, surveillance networks, overthrowing democracies or whatever you like if you really want to get into it.
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xtal posted:There are 7 millions results, you can start with the extrajudicial killings, surveillance networks, overthrowing democracies or whatever you like if you really want to get into it. Oh dear, we've been getting our news from Russians on Facebook, haven't we???
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xtal posted:There are 7 millions results, you can start with the extrajudicial killings, surveillance networks, overthrowing democracies or whatever you like if you really want to get into it. I'm not going to disagree the US does hosed up poo poo. Hell I'm not going to disagree Canada does hosed up poo poo. But please tell me specifically what Hillary Clinton did if you're going to try and pass off something like that.
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Well, there's her role as Secretary of State during the coup in Honduras, as an easy first example.
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Also see any of her handling of anything that happened in Libya during her tenure
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Everything I Don't Like is Russian Fake News: the blood-soaked liberal interventionist's guide to denying your well-documented role in atrocities around the world
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xtal posted:https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/hillary-clinton-secretary-state-war-drones/ Okay, cool! None of this is the airtight case for actual war crimes you're alleging it is, but at least it's something. Propping up the Honduran sham election is pretty lovely and illegal, I agree.
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I'd sooner trust a used bit of toilet paper as a source than loving Jacobin. Jesus christ...
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Here she is gleefully taking credit for Gaddafi's brutal torture and murder by US-backed forces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W8M7G8X68w "alleged" Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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PT6A posted:I'd sooner trust a used bit of toilet paper as a source than loving Jacobin. Jesus christ... "Well documented events that can be independently confirmed to have happened are irrelevant to me because socialists are telling me about them"
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Arivia posted:Okay, cool! None of this is the airtight case for actual war crimes you're alleging it is, but at least it's something. Propping up the Honduran sham election is pretty lovely and illegal, I agree. Hillary Clinton has not actually been convicted of any war crimes. That's about the nicest thing you can say about her.
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THC posted:"Well documented events that can be independently confirmed to have happened are irrelevant to me because socialists are telling me about them" Then pick another source. If the Fraser Institute said the sky was blue, I still wouldn't use them as a citation for it. Biased trash is biased trash.
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Are you guys... seriously trying to argue that the Secretary of State, for the United States of America, between the years 2009 and 2013 is not complicit in any war crimes? That is straight up nonsense. I mean I guess if you go by the idea that "crimes are only crimes if there's anyone to enforce the rules" then you're right, and it's impossible for America to ever commit any crimes at all, but that's not particularly relevant in a moral sense.
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I'm just confused about trying to equivocate Clinton with Dougie saying something retarded.
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You're making the well-known liberal error that any source can be unbiased. Everything is coloured by our experiences, and every source is biased in the same way. Liberals like to think that they have a way of analyzing situations that are un-biased of such concerns as "will publishing this get me fired" or "am I materially benefitting fascism by promoting this thought" but they are just as biased as us socialists. Anyone with inkling of history knows that the status quo can change rapidly, and ideas that were once widespread can become unpopular. It's funny that liberals think their way of thinking is beyond material conditions influencing thinking, and beyond the ideas they heard when growing up influencing them as well. Socialists admit their bias, that the rich have everything good in life while those who make everything good in life are forced to fight over the scraps, and that they are opposed! Liberals admit the world isn't a perfect place, but don't think we can do anything to change it for the better.
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I don't think when Trump yaps on about 'Crooked Hillary' he is referring to her war crimes, folks Also, calling the Liberals crooks dates back long before Trump, not every political move today needs to be linked to him even if it is done via Twitter
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Arcsquad12 posted:I'm just confused about trying to equivocate Clinton with Dougie saying something retarded. Hillary used bleachbit, Wynne used whitecanyon.
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Ardent Communist posted:Well, there's her role as Secretary of State during the coup in Honduras, as an easy first example. this is really all you need to read about to come to the conclusion that Hillary is a criminal and is complicit in atrocities the world over, not to mention the state dept.'s role in what happened in libya edit: I forgot about her state dept. pressuring the government in Haiti to keep the minimum wage low after they had voted to raise it, all on behalf of garment corporations. she's an awful, immoral person. Martian Manfucker fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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THC posted:Here she is gleefully taking credit for Gaddafi's brutal torture and murder by US-backed forces  Maybe that's why she lost the election. Hard to stay on your A-Game when a vengeful ghost is bugging you every night.
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Still wondering if in an alternative universe Hillary got elected bullied the air force into implementing that no fly zone she wanted over Syria and starting WW3 after shooting down a bunch of Russian planes. The Her Turn timeline being as dumb as this one would be the ultimate multiverse spanning LOL.
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I'm glad Gadaffi dead by the way. He was a real piece of poo poo. Obviously life in prison would have been a better outcome than extrajudicial execution, but perfect is the enemy of good and all. It would just be nice if there was some way to remove shithead dictators without their countries and/or neighbours going further to poo poo and making things even worse.
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