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TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

Snowman_McK posted:

[re Conservatives supporting Israel]

That's to do with prophecies and what not, right?

Depending on your faction, yes. There are a decent chunk of Fundamentalist Christians who believe that Israel plays a key role in prophecies regarding the Apocalypse. I just finished reading a lengthy blog series of the Left Behind series, which while not necessarily the sole authority is a really good look at the popular conception of the Rapture and Tribulation for a Fundamentalist audience. In the books (which are supposedly based on a "literal" reading of the Bible) the kickoff for the whole shebang is that Israel is attacked by Russia and Ethiopia (has to be both because the Bible says "Gog and Magog" attack together) where the nations send all their bombers and nukes to Israel and try to destroy it yet it remains untouched. Then the Rapture happens and the Real True Christians are spirited off the planet. Then once the Antichrist arrives, he'll rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem, presumably tearing down the Muslim Dome of the Rock. Then at least in their version a whole bunch of Jews will convert to (their brand of) Christianity since the Bible talks about their still being The Church but the Rapture has already happened so mass-conversion of Israelis is in the cards. So yeah, there are a sizeable number of Christians who believe that the 1948 creation of Israel is a key stepping-stone to Christ's return, and literally support Israel politically because of their role in prophecy. My understanding is that actual Israelis have extremely mixed feelings about this, given that it is not the most pleasant take on Judaism and does not lead to rational decisions, but does play a large role in giving Israel money and weapons.


If you're interested in an in-depth takedown (both theological and literary) of the Left Behind series of apocalyptic fiction (which sold like 60 million copies and spawned three movies), evangelical (the good kind) blogger Fred Clark spent a decade doing one-weekly posts where he'd take a few pages from a novel and explain them, eventually covering most of three novels (of like 16 total). If you have even the slightest interest in Fundamentalist Christian thought, at least try reading a post or two of his, it's simply brutal how he calls the writers out for being heretics (and hacks): http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2015/11/05/left-behind-index-the-whole-thing/


That's setting aside Conservatives who support Israel for non-apocalyptic reasons. You also have plenty who support Israel as a buffer against the Muslims, or (very charitably) because they're a developed/democratic/modern state, and in general are seen as being "vaguely like Americans" and thus worthy of our support.

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coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

VH4Ever posted:

You really have to look at $950k houses in CA on a sliding scale. Prices here are literally clinically insane, not just for houses but for everything. It's not like owning a $950k house almost anywhere else,
yes it is. if you've got a $950k house, then you've somehow summoned several hundred thousand dollars to put down a deposit. which means you're in the top few percent of Americans, ridiculous cost of living or not.

Phobic Nest
Oct 2, 2013

You Are My Sunshine
I dunno wtf with that Garrison cartoon but his depiction of Trump as weak and without a Schwarzenegger-esque chin leaves me deeply concerned at McCain levels.

...Which is to say not very but hey at least I noticed and gave a token response.

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Stereotype posted:

Hawaii is the best state.

Hawaii is expensive as all gently caress to live in though. Whenever I went to visit family there I balked at the grocery prices.

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

Phobic Nest posted:

I dunno wtf with that Garrison cartoon but his depiction of Trump as weak and without a Schwarzenegger-esque chin leaves me deeply concerned at McCain levels.

...Which is to say not very but hey at least I noticed and gave a token response.

As a reminder to people: this is how Garrison likes to imagine Trump, known athletics enthusiast:

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

RasperFat posted:

As a reminder to people: this is how Garrison likes to imagine Trump, known athletics enthusiast:




The hands being proportionately sized is the most unbelievable thing about this.

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits

CyberPingu posted:

The hands being proportionately sized is the most unbelievable thing about this.

I'm the subtle line of ink that indicates Superdon's bulge.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Phobic Nest posted:

I dunno wtf with that Garrison cartoon but his depiction of Trump as weak and without a Schwarzenegger-esque chin leaves me deeply concerned at McCain levels.

...Which is to say not very but hey at least I noticed and gave a token response.

He still has the fuckin' Nike swoosh for hair though.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984371491277099010?s=19

Hahahahahahaha

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that is some flawless reasoning.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

That is totally the words of someone who is not freaking his poo poo over Mueller, nosir. That is the very picture of sang froid.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984374422587965440?s=20

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984374422587965440?s=19

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

highme posted:

Boise, ID (snow)

Boise is high desert which means that snow really isn't an issue. I shoveled my walk maybe five times last winter. The bigger issues for the Goon in Question are no legal weed which is really a corollary to a lovely, crimson state legislature that loathes Boise as a den of sin and vice (which they know to be true because they keep coming here and having extra-marital affairs with each other during the legislative session). So you get a bunch of realtors, meth-hobbyists, and "ranchers" passing bills like "An Act Preventing Any Municipality (Boise) from regulating Uber and nullifying any local regulations that have already done so."

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

"Thank you for killing hundreds of civilians in drone strikes Mr American man"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


we created isis ya dumb gently caress.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Groovelord Neato posted:

we created isis ya dumb gently caress.

That was Kenya.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Nice save, dude. You totally shut up the people who pointed out how you always complained that the American military would announce their intentions beforehand. I’m sure the Syrians and Russians are lowering their guard as we speak.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




Very soon or not so soon at all?

The gently caress does this even mean? :chloe:

I'm sure the admiral off the coast of Syria trying to figure out what the gently caress he is supposed to do is loving this!

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

TapTheForwardAssist posted:


If you're interested in an in-depth takedown (both theological and literary) of the Left Behind series of apocalyptic fiction (which sold like 60 million copies and spawned three movies), evangelical (the good kind) blogger Fred Clark spent a decade doing one-weekly posts where he'd take a few pages from a novel and explain them, eventually covering most of three novels (of like 16 total). If you have even the slightest interest in Fundamentalist Christian thought, at least try reading a post or two of his, it's simply brutal how he calls the writers out for being heretics (and hacks): http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2015/11/05/left-behind-index-the-whole-thing/


I love Fred Clark, he keeps me reminded that there are not just good Christians but good evangelical Christians. :3:

TulliusCicero posted:

Very soon or not so soon at all?

The gently caress does this even mean? :chloe:

I'm sure the admiral off the coast of Syria trying to figure out what the gently caress he is supposed to do is loving this!

stare longingly at his liquor cabinet?

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


Very soon or not so soon at all. Who knows?

The Chaos President.

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016


GreyjoyBastard posted:


stare longingly at his liquor cabinet?

He’s in the Navy, that’s a given

canepazzo
May 29, 2006




Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
Good news! We probably won’t go extinct anytime soon!

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/984360485981179904

I won’t, at least.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

inshallah

to both

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Jealous Cow posted:

Good news! We probably won’t go extinct anytime soon!

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/984360485981179904

I won’t, at least.

I AM IMMORTAL

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Jealous Cow posted:

Good news! We probably won’t go extinct anytime soon!

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/984360485981179904

I won’t, at least.

We have the biggest dicks of any primate tho

E: well, those of us who have dicks

WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Apr 12, 2018

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

canepazzo posted:

Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.

I need a loving drink. At least we know that Trump's attack on my liver is coming very soon jesus ballsucking christ what a varnished piece of useless narcissistic moronic poo poo this miniature prick of a president is.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

WeAreTheRomans posted:

We have the biggest dicks of any primate tho

RIP tapirs.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/984387145115762688

Wonder if he's on Trumps time table.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

CommissarMega posted:

I'm never going to complain about the implausibility of a villain explaining their plan to the hero ever again. Hell, from now on, if Dr. Murder Von Krieg doesn't explain his plan complete with Powerpoint slides, I'd complain about the unbelievability of it all.

Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome?

You do? Well....

I will do it in thirty-five minutes.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Mierenneuker posted:

Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome?

You do? Well....

I will do it in thirty-five minutes.

Nono, you see Trump's 9d chess genius means that he has in fact already attacked Syria, years ago before he even became president. Check and mate DemocRATS :smuggo:

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
https://twitter.com/walterowensgrpa/status/984156831898628096

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Vanderdeath posted:

Hawaii is expensive as all gently caress to live in though. Whenever I went to visit family there I balked at the grocery prices.

It is very expensive but I've never had fruit as delicious as the stuff I got from a guy in a truck parked by the road on the big island. Honestly though you can find more expensive regions on the mainland where people shop at boutique farmers markets which cost 3x what stuff costs in HI, the bigger problem is there is gently caress-all for employment in HI and what is there pays poo poo compared to those mainland regions.

It would still be in our "if we had to move" list because my job allows me to bring my income with me and my wife is a dietitian with extensive diabetes experience which is sadly in high demand in Hawaii, but leaving friends and being >10hr flight time from family really weighs against it.

Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Apr 12, 2018

pepito sanchez
Apr 3, 2004
I'm not mexican

i'm Owen.

RBA-Wintrow
Nov 4, 2009


Clapping Larry

axeil posted:

So does that mean North Korea had a sun laser in the mid 2000s as seen in the documentary Die Another Day?

Yes, thats why there's such a drive to get solar panels on all the roofs! Checkmate Kim!

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

cinnamontalbun posted:

Everyone was posting parodies of Smash Mouth’s “All-Star”, like, eons ago. I never got around to posting my contribution and it has haunted me ever since. Begone, foul spirit!

Donny
hosed a porn star,
paid her hush funds,
got played

He’ll be
out of office
if the Russians
aren’t paid

Shiiiiit’s in a toilet of goooold
Only MAGA chuds are bigger choades

Well, thanks A LOT. Now it's stuck in my head.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Jealous Cow posted:

Good news! We probably won’t go extinct anytime soon!

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/984360485981179904

I won’t, at least.

humans are the primates that have the largest whangs relative to body size (and in absolute terms). probably the only reason we're successful tbh.

daily reminder that people should definitely own guns:

Oklahoma Dad Allegedly Murders Son, 13, by Shooting at Truck He Thought Was Stolen

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oklahoma-man-allegedly-kills-son-011805035.html

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Apr 12, 2018

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


These guys desperately want to legally murder people which is one of the reasons I'm getting to the "no one should own guns at all" extremist camp. Would shooting at a guy driving away in your car even be legal if it wasn't your own kid just borrowing it?

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I've been catching up on the thread skimming as usual with lots of explosive news happening as of late, but I recall some folks a few dozen pages back mentioned the ACA and Congress loving with it. Here's my experience with it.

Shortly after they hosed around with the subsidies, my mother suddenly did not have insurance. When she called BCBS to ask wtf, they said her plan no longer existed, and if she wanted the same coverage, it would be $910 per month. She settled on a $750 plan. Her original "affordable" plan after the implementation of ACA was $500. Before the ACA, it was $1100.

Keep in mind she has no job right now, and they want seven hundred and fifty dollars for any remotely decent coverage despite that. Otherwise her meds cost upwards of $2000 a month because insulin and other lifesaving drugs are increasing in price exponentially.

I want to draw and quarter every single insurance and pharmaceutical company ceo. They are some of the most despicable creatures wearing human skin on this earth.

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