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Dapper_Swindler posted:the FBI does/did shity poo poo(like all law enforcement) but most of the truly awful racist poo poo(targeting of civil rights leaders/liberals/leftists) died with hoover. I doubt they are investigating obama or even clinton. and it's not civil rights leaders but awful racist poo poo - most of their terror grabs are people they entrapped.
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Groovelord Neato posted:and it's not civil rights leaders but awful racist poo poo - most of their terror grabs are people they entrapped. the fbi is really good at entrapping muslim teens for some weird reason
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shadowvine118 posted:My US History teacher went on a whole spiel last Monday about how it probably wasn’t Thomas Jefferson who raped Sally Hemings, but Jefferson’s brother or nephew. your us history teacher, are they an american civil war reenactor?
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Lightning Knight posted:I legit thought that book was so cool and right in seventh grade. Man I’m glad I read 1984 right after. Eh, it wasn't a bad book it just isn't on the level of 1984. Heinlein even hangs a lampshade on the whole military dictatorship thing when it gets pointed out that well nobody really has any idea why it works it just does. Granted in the book literally anybody can enter the service and it isn't even guaranteed you'll be doing anything military so I just kind of assumed that a pretty big majority of people had service and could vote. It wouldn't be like a typical military dictatorship where the military is a small minority that violently oppresses everybody else. It's hard for that to happen when ex-service people are also everybody else. In a real military dictatorship the military tends to be a pretty exclusive class of dudes loyal to each other that tightly screen who gets in. In Starship Troopers if you were alive you could insist that they find you something to do. Not going to advocate that kind of government by any means but it isn't quite the fascism wank everybody makes it out to be. pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Attorney client privilege does not extend to you telling your attorney you are about to commit crimes nor does it protect an attorney who willingly committed crimes in your employ. This isn't even up for debate, GOP. They just simply no longer live in reality. They're going to grasp at literally any straw they can and hammer on it as hard as they can to drown out anything else. That's basically how the right wing hate machine operates at this point. They also forget that not all communications between a persona and a lawyer are privileged even if there's nothing criminal going on. I'm not a lawyer but I'm reasonably sure it only counts actual legal advice or legal conversations. Lawyers are also nowhere near 100% immune to being raided or investigated themselves. If memory serves the guy is also being investigated for some shady stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. It also (and perhaps most importantly right now) doesn't apply if a lawyer actively helped somebody get away with something. Reality is whatever they need it to be right now.
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Yeah, in the book it’s like, you can be a teacher or a cop or whatever public-service position, you can go count the hairs on caterpillars if it turns out we need that and that’s what you can do, but it’s a book for children so it’s not about Johnny Rico the Caterpillar Hair Counter, it’s about Johnny Rico the Badass Future Soldier with the powered armor and the nuclear bazooka. And it’s nice and all that the book has the Star Trek kumbaya all-races-and-creeds-together thing and a POC protagonist, but it suffers when you read it as an adult and get to the part where the veterans get together to restore order by hanging all the juvenile delinquents because uhhhhh
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seiferguy posted:Excuse me, you forgot the worst scandal of all: Terminal Lance (written/drawn by an ex-marine) had one of the best responses to that scandal:  quote:Yes, the President of the United States of America had a boot Corporal hold an umbrella for him while he gave a speech.
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The token conservative dickhead among the Parkland kids ran a “retweet my tweet 15k times to get Charlie Kirk to come to Parkland and speak” and it worked. This can only end well. 
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Pirate Radar posted:Yeah, in the book it’s like, you can be a teacher or a cop or whatever public-service position, you can go count the hairs on caterpillars if it turns out we need that and that’s what you can do, but it’s a book for children so it’s not about Johnny Rico the Caterpillar Hair Counter, it’s about Johnny Rico the Badass Future Soldier with the powered armor and the nuclear bazooka. There's also some low-key hinting throughout the book that Johnny Rico might be a bit too incapable to handle the regular public service jobs, which is why he's so insistent on doing the military route, and that probably most of the people doing Federal Service are undertaking normal civil service jobs even though the military's so glamorized. After all, there's a lot of civil service work that needs to be done even if Johnny-types aren't going to be suited for it.
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fishmech posted:There's also some low-key hinting throughout the book that Johnny Rico might be a bit too incapable to handle the regular public service jobs, which is why he's so insistent on doing the military route, and that probably most of the people doing Federal Service are undertaking normal civil service jobs even though the military's so glamorized. After all, there's a lot of civil service work that needs to be done even if Johnny-types aren't going to be suited for it. Oh, maybe I’m misremembering because I thought it was more than just hints. When he goes to talk to the recruiter, don’t they go over his grades and see if he has any particular skills or aptitudes before going “well then, it’s the infantry for you”?
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Pirate Radar posted:Yeah, in the book it’s like, you can be a teacher or a cop or whatever public-service position, you can go count the hairs on caterpillars if it turns out we need that and that’s what you can do, but it’s a book for children so it’s not about Johnny Rico the Caterpillar Hair Counter, it’s about Johnny Rico the Badass Future Soldier with the powered armor and the nuclear bazooka. Those were roving bandits resulting from a nuclear war. Retconed into juvenile delinquents by the established political order. The last half of the book tried to introduce some skepticism and nuance about the system, but it didn't hit home. The first half was just too compelling.
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Pirate Radar posted:Oh, maybe I’m misremembering because I thought it was more than just hints. When he goes to talk to the recruiter, don’t they go over his grades and see if he has any particular skills or aptitudes before going “well then, it’s the infantry for you”? There's that yeah, but on the other hand it's not like being a low level civil servant needs particular skills either. If he'd showed up to the civil recruitment center they'd be like "oh no particular skills or aptitudes? well we need some mailroom clerks". He's obviously not interested in going that way.
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What's Laura Ingraham up to with her advertisers abandoning her? https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/984263407921782784 lol
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Pirate Radar posted:Oh, maybe I’m misremembering because I thought it was more than just hints. When he goes to talk to the recruiter, don’t they go over his grades and see if he has any particular skills or aptitudes before going “well then, it’s the infantry for you”? Johnny Rico was the socialite son of an incredibly rich old wealth family. He had a guaranteed slot at Harvard. It makes some extremely pointed arguments that merit and earning your place is worth more than heritage and nepotism. Especially considering the extremely pointed digs against communist systems. In summary, the future history of Heinlein is a land of contrasts.
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DC Murderverse posted:What's Laura Ingraham up to with her advertisers abandoning her? I hope Hogg finds a pic of Shaprio when he was a lanky pencil neck poo poo and trolls with it.
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Ceiling fan posted:Johnny Rico was the socialite son of an incredibly rich old wealth family. He had a guaranteed slot at Harvard. It makes some extremely pointed arguments that merit and earning your place is worth more than heritage and nepotism. Especially considering the extremely pointed digs against communist systems. Johnny's dad was basically a 1%-er, but couldn't vote because he wasn't willing to put his own goals on hold for 2-4 years and do some sort of public service. And people are actually hating on this society. Ok, there is the corporal punishment, but they seem to take it seriously, if not solemnly, and not pass out lashes willy-nilly.
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Lightning Knight posted:The token conservative dickhead among the Parkland kids ran a “retweet my tweet 15k times to get Charlie Kirk to come to Parkland and speak” and it worked. David Hogg vs. the Diaper Guy? Ooo, sounds fun. Also, Jesus how much further does that Kyle kid have to sink into gaucheness? What's he gonna do next, bring an AR-15 to grad? ...He's gonna bring an AR-15 to his grad 
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If you have a Twitter account, please tweet this at Donald Trump.
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Though he still won't see it, you have to buy ad time on Fox & Friends.
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Pirate Radar posted:Yeah, in the book it’s like, you can be a teacher or a cop or whatever public-service position, you can go count the hairs on caterpillars if it turns out we need that and that’s what you can do, Here's the quote: quote:But if you came in here in a wheel chair and blind in both eyes and were silly enough to insist on enrolling, they would find something silly enough to match. Counting the fuzz on a caterpillar by touch, maybe. The only way you can fail is by having the psychiatrists decide that you are not able to understand the oath. For all the faults in the Starship Troopers universe, they do provide an employer of last resort. I'm no fan of corporal punishment either, but at the same time, there's no perverse incentive to corporal punishment compared to our society's prison industrial complex.
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waaahh wahhh i'm a millionaire with a radio show and national tv show. i'm being oppressed!!!!
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Ceiling fan posted:Those were roving bandits resulting from a nuclear war. Retconed into juvenile delinquents by the established political order. The last half of the book tried to introduce some skepticism and nuance about the system, but it didn't hit home. The first half was just too compelling. I always saw it as having a pretty strong theme of dehumanization. The Rico of the beginning is a dumb kid with the usual social BS and family drama going on. The Rico of the end is a soulless killing machine who gets the shakes, but no longer has access to why.
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Man, Hannity REALLY loving hates the FBI. I thought conservatives loved cops and respected authority?
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, Hannity REALLY loving hates the FBI. You've never heard one get a speeding ticket.
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, Hannity REALLY loving hates the FBI. I'm starting to think these GOP folks don't actually believe in law and order.
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, Hannity REALLY loving hates the FBI. In my dream world Hannity colluded with Trump for good media coverage and knew about some illegal activity and Mueller takes him down for obstruction.
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, Hannity REALLY loving hates the FBI. If a minority is arrested or harassed, it's okay and the system works as intended. If it's a white person, then it's militant police and blatant government overreach.
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Alkydere posted:Terminal Lance (written/drawn by an ex-marine) had one of the best responses to that scandal: Terminal Lance is legit great. Lightning Knight posted:The token conservative dickhead among the Parkland kids ran a “retweet my tweet 15k times to get Charlie Kirk to come to Parkland and speak” and it worked. oooooooooooooooh noooooooooooooo that's the stupidest idea I've ever loving heard in all my lives.
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DC Murderverse posted:What's Laura Ingraham up to with her advertisers abandoning her? https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/984266067953451009 https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/983702203532689409
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I meant to post this a few days ago and haven't seen it here. It's a blatant example of the RWM double standard. Obama wanting to "Sit down with dictators" = weakness, treason, etc. Trump doing it = "leadership, strength, progress, etc." http://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-video-trump-obama-north-korea-848618
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DC Murderverse posted:What's Laura Ingraham up to with her advertisers abandoning her? Boycotting advertising is bad, except when it's good. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/984300077186469888
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Crossposting this from the authoritarians thread: The rhetoric coming out of the right-wing Echo Chambers is getting increasingly over the top and dangerous. The active dehumanization of all leftists/progressives is honest to God indistinguishable from what Germans were saying about Jews. I mean that in all sincerity, we are now at the point where their rhetoric is on the exact same level as Nazi Germany. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grl5Aaj_9Gw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LbBrKyTB7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJEaVGCfPHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjI85oHcH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfoSZYkOHkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieHlxm5Oug8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3e0zaB3qB4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS8dozsNPGE Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Apr 13, 2018 |
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Radish posted:You've never heard one get a speeding ticket. Yuuuuuup. Conservatives loves to engaged in doe-eyed, reverential public servant masturbation as long as they're shooting brown people or dressed in loving Class As at the loving Knights of Columbus dinner. But the second they see a medic washing his car on duty, or a fire truck is delayed getting their cat out of a tree or they get a loving speeding ticket "YOU all work FOR ME" blahblahblah Hypocrisy is the loving barrier for entry to conservatism. They are absolute scum.
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LeeMajors posted:Yuuuuuup. If I had a penny for every time some shitlord complained about us parking our FIRE ENGINES in the FIRE LANE at stores, I wouldn't have to work for such lovely wages.
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I once was at a city council meeting where like 100 people came to complain about a fire substation that was planned to open right outside their retirement community. They were mad that they already had a lot of noise from sirens and this would make it worse. Long story short: These guys were responsible for an enormous number of emergency medical calls, the sirens were from their neighbors calling 911 for strokes and heart attacks. So many, that they wanted a substation just to service the retirement community.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I once was at a city council meeting where like 100 people came to complain about a fire substation that was planned to open right outside their retirement community. They were mad that they already had a lot of noise from sirens and this would make it worse. You know, I can't even laugh at this. This is just depressing. 
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, Hannity REALLY loving hates the FBI. Only if that authority is conservative and therefore good, but the FBI is filled with a bunch of leftists who hate Republicans and are trying to destroy the country. BiggerBoat posted:I meant to post this a few days ago and haven't seen it here. It's a blatant example of the RWM double standard. Obama wanting to "Sit down with dictators" = weakness, treason, etc. Hannity already covered this last week. He brought up that video (maybe not that specific one, there could be others) of right wing media personalities saying it would be horrible for Obama to negotiate with North Korea, and praising Trump for doing the same. He scoffed at the accusations of hypocrisy, because you see, there is a very important difference between Trump and Obama. Obama is bad. Trump is good. So it would be bad if the bad President tried to negotiate, but it's good if the good President tries to negotiate. So therefore it's not hypocrisy you dumb liberals.
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Koalas March posted:In my dream world Hannity colluded with Trump for good media coverage and knew about some illegal activity and Mueller takes him down for obstruction. Uwe Boll needs to fight him first then Mueller can have him.
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