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double nine posted:I'm glad Kerry is finally getting some lines that aren't generic "let's fight" ones, also David stop playing with fire and keep Farouk outside your drat mind you smart idiot. I still have no idea what to make of Kerry. She seems to have no special abilities whatsoever in combat yet everyone continues to act like she's a super commando. "Guns, my one weakness!" "More than one of you, my one weakness!" "Clubs and shields, my one weakness!" "A really big mean dude, my one weakness!" I mean I kind of love that, that the overconfident badass is just "average 20 something girl with some karate lessons," but I'm not sure it's intentional. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:I still have no idea what to make of Kerry. like you say, they play her up as some super powered fighting machine but in the first season she seems like she can barely handle low level security goons. cgi-up that poo poo, let her shoryuken someone.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Navid Negahban loving nailed that scene. I've been looking for his glasses for 3 hours....
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Wafflecopper posted:Isn't Farouk Moroccan? They do speak French there but also Arabic and Italian. He spoke a bunch of languages in that scene, not just French and English That makes sense. My ancient high school level French made me assume everything I didn't understand was just advanced French. Even the bits that didn't really sound French at all 
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uber_stoat posted:the guy playing Cary is nearly 70 years old. maybe I'm not a good judge but I would never have guessed that. I've seen Bill Irwin perform mime/vaudeville on stage, and he may not look like it, but he's insanely fit and flexible for a guy his age. Oh, and I loved the "You're bringing a katana? gently caress it, I'm a tank" scene in Farouk and David's mental combat.
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note that david had no response to Farouk changing into a hurricane - the tank just fired into the smoke uselessly and Farouk was in control of the entire encounter.
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It's like a game of rock paper scissors where you keep introducing ridiculous trump-cards. David just suffers a lack of imagination
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David is unquestionably more powerful, but the Shadow King is more experienced.
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The correct counter to a hurricane is an NCAA commissioner.
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I'm not sure if Lenny is actual Lenny's consciousness, or a just a facsimile created by Farouk to manipulate David that's somehow separate from Farouk. But like Oliver said, it doesn't really matter.
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glitchwraith posted:I'm not sure if Lenny is actual Lenny's consciousness, or a just a facsimile created by Farouk to manipulate David that's somehow separate from Farouk. But like Oliver said, it doesn't really matter. From their conversation I assume it is really her consciousness.
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glitchwraith posted:I'm not sure if Lenny is actual Lenny's consciousness, or a just a facsimile created by Farouk to manipulate David that's somehow separate from Farouk. But like Oliver said, it doesn't really matter.
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Selachian posted:I've seen Bill Irwin perform mime/vaudeville on stage, and he may not look like it, but he's insanely fit and flexible for a guy his age. I was just reading about Bill's clown training and now I really want to see him on Baskets.
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Amazing scene with Farouk. I also guessed Proteus might be the future big bad but the way Future Syd talked really reinforced that David is the more likely choice, her line about how "different" David was seemed like a big hint. I wish we got a bit more interaction with Oliver; I feel like he's the weakest link in the characters right now. Also these John Hamm voiceovers are so good, I really want him as Mr.Sinister on this show.
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Ersatz posted:From the exchange between Lenny and Farouk, I think it's actually what's left of the lady from the asylum who got merged with the wall. Farouk just keeps her consciousness rambling around inside him for kicks, and pulls out her image and mannerisms whenever it suits him. I mean, it's obvious that whatever Lenny is, she's now a separate entity from Farouk. I'm just not sure I buy that he can entrap people's consciousness without inhabiting their mind. glitchwraith fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:I still have no idea what to make of Kerry. I will never link to TV Tropes or use their godawful terms but this is a pretty common issue with ongoing fiction; you show how powerful a threat is by having them easily defeat your best fighter, only it happens so often that the person who is supposed to be your super badass is constantly being clowned on or taken out of commission so they lose their effectiveness.
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See: Worf.
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glitchwraith posted:I mean, it's obvious that whatever Lenny is, she's now a separate entity from Farouk. I'm just not sure I buy that he can entrap people's consciousness without inhabiting their mind. That's kind of problematic given the dance-off in the season premiere. Assuming that it is supposed to be an analogy for PSYCHIC POWER WARFARE, how does Lenny take part? Unless they pull a really lame retcon she doesn't have psychic powers and isn't a mutant. Oliver is essentially mind-controlled into combat vs David but Lenny is either purely Lenny, which makes no sense given s02e01, purely an avatar of the Shadow King which makes no sense in the context of s02e02, or is somehow both depending on need which doesn't make a lot of sense either but it gives us more Aubrey Plaza screen time so whatever.
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regulargonzalez posted:it gives us more Aubrey Plaza screen time so whatever.
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I don't see what's confusing or difficult about "both" given that Shadow King is also a samurai, a whirlwind, a creepy children's book come to life, and an enormously obese demonic figure. Also David has a line of dialogue while he's arguing with Clark where he explains that Shadow King wears different people's psychic impressions in order to conceal himself from detection or pursuit. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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I do kind of adore her and watched last season's Bolero scene many many times until three little words popped into my head that almost ruined her for me. Here's the scene: https://youtu.be/rw9EV0zqYuQ While you're watching, just think: young Tim Curry
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regulargonzalez posted:I don't want to be attracted to Tim Curry why not
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I was at a party recently where that Father John Misty video she's in was on and someone (admittedly a straight woman) said "who knew Aubrey Plaza was hot before this video?!" lol
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scary ghost dog posted:why not He wants to come again and again and again
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I keep forgetting this is based on some comic spin off of the x-men. Are the google results of legion and Proteus what I should think dark future might be based on?
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Blazing Ownager posted:I still have no idea what to make of Kerry. My one complaint about the show is that they’re so intent on subverting expectations that they don’t let Keri do her thing. She’s been in two actual fights since the show started and she was a beast in both, even though Farouk had grabbed her for the second. At a certain point you have to let her take her spiked baseball bat and actually do something with it.
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Goofballs posted:I keep forgetting this is based on some comic spin off of the x-men. Are the google results of legion and Proteus what I should think dark future might be based on? I want onslaught goddamn it
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Chokes McGee posted:I want onslaught goddamn it I dunno who that is either, my perception of the show is entirely isolated from comics. I know its kind of x-men but I have no clue how it ties into that except David is Patrick Stewart's son
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regulargonzalez posted:I don't want to be attracted to Tim Curry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr4knvNNgtU&t=40s
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regulargonzalez posted:I don't want to be attracted to Tim Curry https://youtu.be/iemGXdBdupM?t=93
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regulargonzalez posted:That's kind of problematic given the dance-off in the season premiere. Assuming that it is supposed to be an analogy for PSYCHIC POWER WARFARE, how does Lenny take part? Unless they pull a really lame retcon she doesn't have psychic powers and isn't a mutant. Oliver is essentially mind-controlled into combat vs David but Lenny is either purely Lenny, which makes no sense given s02e01, purely an avatar of the Shadow King which makes no sense in the context of s02e02, or is somehow both depending on need which doesn't make a lot of sense either but it gives us more Aubrey Plaza screen time so whatever. Well, my running theory so far is "I don't know what Lenny Is", but I'm starting to like the idea that she started as simply a disguise that eventually developed into a separate personality and consciousness. Perhaps she's the idea that became a delusion that John Hamm keeps going on about. And spawning from a mostly mental psychic may have granted her a chunk of that psychic power. Or I'm wrong. Lot's of possibilities. She could have been representing Farouk again in the dance off, even if she's the original Lenny's soul.
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regulargonzalez posted:I don't want to be attracted to Tim Curry Now I want Tim Curry to play her father in something. It'd work.
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I hope they give SOME explanation why the robot women have mustaches. It's such a strange loving detail given none of it is happening in David's head.glitchwraith posted:I mean, it's obvious that whatever Lenny is, she's now a separate entity from Farouk. I'm just not sure I buy that he can entrap people's consciousness without inhabiting their mind. I think there is a way they MIGHT reconcile this. We've seen a lot of forms with Farouk: The yellow eyed demon, the angriest boy in the world, the goat wheelchair thing, etc. He's jumped into all of them at will, but we've always assumed he just changes shape. What if they're all remains of minds he's trapped? Like Lenny is just another one of them. He can puppeteer them and hop into them at any time (like an agent in the Matrix, God I hate bringing up the Matrix). That said, right now it seems like a misstep to not just have Lenny shape change to Farouk. i.e. Farouk is just cruising around in his fat yellow eyed demon suit, decides there's a threat at hand and hops into Lenny to go deal with it, etc? I'm stabbing in the dark but just a (somewhat rough) theory
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Blazing Ownager posted:Now I want Tim Curry to play her father in something. It'd work. With Rami Malek as her brother?
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Guy Mann posted:I will never link to TV Tropes or use their godawful terms but this is a pretty common issue with ongoing fiction; you show how powerful a threat is by having them easily defeat your best fighter, only it happens so often that the person who is supposed to be your super badass is constantly being clowned on or taken out of commission so they lose their effectiveness. GreenNight posted:See: Worf. I think so far she's only fought and been trashed in combat by goons and an illusionist. So more like if Worf consistently got beaten up by small gangs of Ferengi (while taunting the God like aliens with badassery)
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regulargonzalez posted:That's kind of problematic given the dance-off in the season premiere. Assuming that it is supposed to be an analogy for PSYCHIC POWER WARFARE, how does Lenny take part? Unless they pull a really lame retcon she doesn't have psychic powers and isn't a mutant. Oliver is essentially mind-controlled into combat vs David but Lenny is either purely Lenny, which makes no sense given s02e01, purely an avatar of the Shadow King which makes no sense in the context of s02e02, or is somehow both depending on need which doesn't make a lot of sense either but it gives us more Aubrey Plaza screen time so whatever. Well in the comics David Haller is able to absorb the psyche of anyone who dies around him. Syd was in David's body and accidentally killed girl Lenny and absorbed the psyche without meaning to (I imagine). At that time SK is attached to David and he takes control of this psyche and uses it against him. Think of Lenny as a puppet and right now Farouk is controlling her strings, and can channel his power through her image. It wouldn't surprise me if at some point Lenny is able to escape Farouk and ride around in David's head again but as fun-time nut house Lenny instead of scary monster Lenny. Phantom Star fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Apr 13, 2018 |
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