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Skwirl posted:If she's being played by an actual preteen I think they'll avoid overly sexualizing her. What tv shows do now is cast an older, sexier, actress and have some sort of aging ray and hopes everyone forgets that the character is still supposed to be an actual 12 year old (Hi Gotham). For live action stuff the "literally born yesterday, but has the body of a 24 year old" trope (fifth element, 50 first dates) is way more common than 9000 year old demon with the body of a twelve year old, although still creepy for similar reasons. Leeloo is thousands of years old, she’s just not familiar with Earth culture. And we must have seen a very different 50 First Dates.
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They're talking about the character's childlike qualities, whimsy, need of guidance/protection. All male fantasy bullshit which come from/lead to an attraction to inexperience or youth. Basically coded gross poo poo in the guise of something more benign.
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ToastyPotato posted:So basically all I see is people reacting to something that was said, but all the tweet has is some pictures with no transcript or clips for me. Goddamit people over reacting to poo poo on Twitter is the worst. THE WORST
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Sgt. Politeness posted:They're talking about the character's childlike qualities, whimsy, need of guidance/protection. All male fantasy bullshit which come from/lead to an attraction to inexperience or youth. Basically coded gross poo poo in the guise of something more benign. That's still not 50 First Dates though.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:09
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Scyantific posted:Apparently there are set photos of Titans circulating the net and uh, well, OMG this is the most racist comic fan shitstorm ever, put it in my veins.
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Shageletic posted:OMG this is the most racist comic fan shitstorm ever, put it in my veins. Teen Titan fans continue to be the anime fans of western media.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:21
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Alright, I blew up the pics and the make up and wig isn't as bad as I thought but that dress/fur coat combo has to go. Anna is legit gorgeous, and they got her out there looking like a Law and Order hooker.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:22
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Koalas March posted:Alright, I blew up the pics and the make up and wig isn't as bad as I thought but that dress/fur coat combo has to go. Yeah maybe she isn't looking the best, but the reaction is what I find fascinating. People are already losing their minds about it. e: The fur isn't part of the costume I don't think.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:24
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Shageletic posted:Yeah maybe she isn't looking the best, but the reaction is what I find fascinating. People are already losing their minds about it. yeah I hope it's just a personal coat (in which case, it's fly) but any good production will provide coats for staying warm between shots and they're usually a lot more generic. like this:  totally not an excuse to post a cute pic of Candice!!
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Apr 12, 2018 16:31
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Shageletic posted:e: The fur isn't part of the costume I don't think. It looked to me like maybe a coat she was wearing over her costume between takes.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:32
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Terrible people really are pissed off that they made Starfire and Domino black. I've seen some pretty great meltdowns. I'm really happy that Rob Liefeld came out and said that comic Domino has always been black.
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I'm liking those meltdowns even more now than I have in the past to see those racist attitudes having no purchase in the mainstream in light of what Black Panther has done. Now It's all enjoyment and no guilt for me, let the tears flow!
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Shageletic posted:I'm liking those meltdowns even more now than I have in the past to see those racist attitudes having no purchase in the mainstream in light of what Black Panther has done. Now It's all enjoyment and no guilt for me, let the tears flow! Oh god it's so delicious. Like, the internet wasn't what is was now when MCD was cast as the Kingpin, we had no social media so we couldn't see people flip their racist poo poo out but you still heard some people bitching. When they cast Candice Patton as Iris here was a bit of a murmur but since she was barely a blip in comics there wasn't as much. But Starfire is hugely known from TTG ad holy poo poo has this been hilarious to watch.
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Rhyno posted:Terrible people really are pissed off that they made Starfire and Domino black. I've seen some pretty great meltdowns. I'm really happy that Rob Liefeld came out and said that comic Domino has always been black. I would ask why anyone cares what color Domino is since she's such a nothing character, but I guess she has been popular in the sense that people like to draw creepy porn of her. Honestly it would've been funnier if they made Raven black because she's the one with the weirdest fans and they would've exploded.
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Koalas March posted:Alright, I blew up the pics and the make up and wig isn't as bad as I thought but that dress/fur coat combo has to go. Hey, we don't know that's costume maybe that's hers. Edit: I am not the first to make that suggestion.
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Koalas March posted:yeah I hope it's just a personal coat (in which case, it's fly) but any good production will provide coats for staying warm between shots and they're usually a lot more generic. I figured that because they are filming in Toronto the coat is just for in between scenes. That being said man the hair on her and Gar looks.....not great.
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Production isn't handing out fur coats as courtesy between shots. And it being fake fur is irrelevant, in case someone thinks that would be a point. But considering the entire get up looks like a stereotypical 80s hooker, the simplest explanation is that it was an intentional design choice. I'm hoping it is just part of a gag or joke at Starfire's expense (maybe poking fun at her earlier designs) but whatever. WB has been at this long enough to know they could have gotten ahead of this by releasing some official character shots, but as with most of their DC stuff, they don't really seem to care. Finally got around to seeing the Legends finale. It was pretty great. The season ended much stronger than it started. Looking forward to the next season. I think my big issue with the first few episodes this season was that it appears they knew they wanted to turn the show into full comedy, but didn't bother trying to actually transition the show properly in that direction. So suddenly characters were being put in "lol RANDOM" scenes and it was jarring for me (and they didn't make any sense in general). But they did eventually hit a stride and the comedy became much more natural. I am glad they found a way to embrace the badness of the team without making things so stupid I couldn't keep watching. The team ends up endearingly bad, instead of just unwatchably bad.
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Shageletic posted:OMG this is the most racist comic fan shitstorm ever, put it in my veins. I dunno, am I racist for not liking the design of her hair? Seeing a picture of her, her hair in regular pictures is beautiful. This looks terrible in my opinion, but I'm willing to reserve judgement until seeing the show in it's final form.
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Apr 12, 2018 19:54
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Lurdiak posted:I would ask why anyone cares what color Domino is since she's such a nothing character Like that matters to anyone who complains about this stuff
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Apr 12, 2018 19:56
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If she's black they can't wack off to her anymore and that makes them mad
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Apr 12, 2018 20:09
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Domino is cool.
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Comfortador posted:I dunno, am I racist for not liking the design of her hair? Technically only against aliens I think.
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site posted:If she's black they can't wack off to her anymore and that makes them mad I think this is horribly accurate.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:01
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Yeah unfortunately, there is plenty of info out there about beauty standards and where black women fall within them. The most depressing of which was the study where very young black children preferred white dolls over black dolls because they were "prettier".
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The predictable racist backlash is awful, but Starfire really does look loving terrible in those pics for reasons having nothing to do with Anna Diop or her race, and I can only hope she's supposed to be badly dressed there. The wig, makeup, and dress all make her look like a particularly bad drag queen. As ToastyPotato says above, the smart move would have been to get out in front of the set pics with more official costume shots, but I guess they just don't care enough. Which I suppose is fair, not like it'll matter too much by the time the show premieres. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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Apr 12, 2018 21:59
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I dunno Starfire walking around in ugly earth clothes while trying to blend in as all of them seem like they are doing seems great. Extremely in character
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ToastyPotato posted:Yeah unfortunately, there is plenty of info out there about beauty standards and where black women fall within them. The most depressing of which was the study where very young black children preferred white dolls over black dolls because they were "prettier". I talked about my experiences with this and my sister in the Misogynoir thread. It's really hosed up. There's other factors, like colorism, hair etc. It's a really layered problem that just goes back to how white people were able to define our society's beauty standards and how badly it's hosed everyone up. Like you might hear someone say "I don't date black girls" and think it's a preference, but really it's internalized racism. because think about it.. You really don't find any black women attractive? Africa is huge and it's people are varied. When you throw black Americans into the mix, the pool gets even wider. We don't all look alike.    If you general 'you' can't find any of these women attractive, examine your drat biases.
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Comfortador posted:I dunno, am I racist for not liking the design of her hair? Seeing a picture of her, her hair in regular pictures is beautiful. This looks terrible in my opinion, but I'm willing to reserve judgement until seeing the show in it's final form. I'm not the biggest fan of the pic, and that's alright. But immediately screeching about HOOKERS and BLACKS is eyebrow raising at the least.
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Yeah, compare Lena Horne and Lupito Nyongo, it's impossible to firmly state what a black women actually looks like, nevermind a firm yea or nay if you find them attractive or not.
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Dexo posted:I dunno Starfire walking around in ugly earth clothes while trying to blend in as all of them seem like they are doing seems great. well yeah, if that's the context then her look makes total sense, but I guess we'll see
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Jessica Jones renewed for a third season. Can it get more lethally boring? We'll find out!
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theironjef posted:Jessica Jones renewed for a third season. Can it get more lethally boring? We'll find out! If it gets any suckier it'll collapse my monitor in on itself like a tiny black hole.
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I just hope we're done exploring Jessica's past or whatever so we can have actually cool new poo poo. At least the ending for season 2 opens up some good possibilities for a third season.
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Legends of Tomorrow, most epic season finale. Literally had tears. Beeeeeeebo!
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Anna responded to the Starfire controversy on Instagram, can't embed but it's really goodand thoughtful https://www.instagram.com/p/BhfCnkEnwGO/
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Koalas March posted:Anna responded to the Starfire controversy on Instagram, can't embed but it's really goodand thoughtful It's a shame she even had to do this because Warner couldn't be bothered enough to do the slightest bit of PR for the show. Isn't Titans supposed to be the flagship show for their streaming service?
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Koalas March posted:I talked about my experiences with this and my sister in the Misogynoir thread. It's really hosed up. There's other factors, like colorism, hair etc. It's a really layered problem that just goes back to how white people were able to define our society's beauty standards and how badly it's hosed everyone up. I think Chandra Wilson is beautiful and I frequently see a lot of douchey body shaming directed at her. And also, Candace Patton.
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I don't mean to get all after school psa but I can't understand the disconnect between loving comic books and cartoons about heroes who set out to do the right thing and then getting on the internet to be racist or bully people. Like did you totally miss the entire point? "It's so great the way these characters are helping people, welp time to go hurt some feelings"
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