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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

JBP posted:

He was only joking but women statistically sold more personal contracts by miles.

wouldn’t the 5’10 women intimidate your manlet customers?

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Sex sells. Always has and always will.

Call centre work in market research the respondent was extremely more likely to do a survey if the call centre operator was a lady.

The highest conversion rate was always girls and it's just the way some places have to run because political polling respondents were all lonely old men.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Birdstrike posted:

wouldn’t the 5’10 women intimidate your manlet customers?

The shop was in Camberwell our customers were entirely Chads.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

JBP posted:

The shop was in Camberwell our customers were entirely Chads.

This 'not calling people African' thing is getting really pedantic

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
Pecadillo probably doesn't think that's gross out of a mistaken belief your boss sincerely wanted you to write that in a job ad.

gucci bane
Oct 27, 2008



That's weird, women didn't perform any better than men when I worked at Telstra. They did, however, get sent shirtless photos by dudes in a relationship or got abused by mens girlfriends after they did the standard follow up text / call that we were all obliged to do a day after a sale.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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gucci bane posted:

That's weird, women didn't perform any better than men when I worked at Telstra. They did, however, get sent shirtless photos by dudes in a relationship or got abused by mens girlfriends after they did the standard follow up text / call that we were all obliged to do a day after a sale.

Ditto

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
You'd think women would get people saying, "Can I talk to someone who knows about the tech side of things?" a lot.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Surveys are outbound cold calling. Keep in mind

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Starshark posted:

You'd think women would get people saying, "Can I talk to someone who knows about the tech side of things?" a lot.

They did. After the sale.

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
Hey can anyone tell me about the RAFFWU? I’d rather not join SDA but was wondering if the alternative can get tings done

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

JBP posted:

He was only joking but women statistically sold more personal contracts by miles.

What's the joke?

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

ColtMcAsskick posted:

Hey can anyone tell me about the RAFFWU? I’d rather not join SDA but was wondering if the alternative can get tings done

They're good folk, and have overturned quite a few of the SDA agreements that were loving over their workforce. Most of it is baby step sort of stuff, but that's better than tripping over yourself backwards to suck managements dicks like the SDA do.

They probably also won't argue against you in FWC hearings.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

ColtMcAsskick posted:

Hey can anyone tell me about the RAFFWU? I’d rather not join SDA but was wondering if the alternative can get tings done

SDA is a union for employers not workers, so unless you own a business, you probably want to join the RAFFWU.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
gently caress. The. SDA.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

The Peccadillo posted:

What's the joke?

Big tiddy = sale

Not a joke I agree

screaden
Apr 8, 2009

Halo14 posted:

Anyone post this startling revelation?

Richest private schools get payments from $7m government 'slush fund'

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/richest-private-schools-get-payments-from-7m-government-slush-fund-20180412-p4z94f.html

And my wife's public school can't get funding to remove termites from the buildings

Dimebag
Jul 12, 2004

bandaid.friend posted:

The government gave up on knocking down and rebuilding the 2000 Olympic stadium

So the toffs are still going to get their new rugby stadium in Moore Park right?

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar

screaden posted:

And my wife's public school can't get funding to remove termites from the buildings

Well we can get rid of the termites or we can level out a croquet field.

Cheap Trick
Jan 4, 2007

Dimebag posted:

So the toffs are still going to get their new rugby stadium in Moore Park right?

Also a new stadium at Parramatta. And I haven't heard of the Olympic Park upgrade being shelved, unless it happened within the last three days. What a colossal waste of money.

Oh, and there's also "disruption costs" that the government may be up for while the Moore Park stadium's being rebuilt.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/ayres-confirms-stadium-costs-for-roosters-sydney-fc-and-waratahs-20180412-p4z97j.html

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

ColtMcAsskick posted:

Hey can anyone tell me about the RAFFWU? I’d rather not join SDA but was wondering if the alternative can get tings done

They are very cool and good, was hearing extremely good things about them from my local NTEU guy

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Right and left-wing groups have faced off outside Foreign Minister Julie Bishop's office during a protest over the treatment of white farmers in South Africa.

Members of the Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA) and other groups delivered a petition calling on the Federal Government to create a special refugee visa category for the farmers.

Both sides taunted each other from across the street, with the left-wingers holding signs saying "fight racism" while the right-wingers carried banners saying "let the right ones in".

The petition calls for 80 per cent of humanitarian visas to be given to white farmers.

As the ALA supporters crossed the street to deliver the petition, they had to walk through the left-wing groups.

The shouting increased and there was some pushing and shoving, forcing the police to intervene and keep the rival groups apart.

However, no-one was arrested.

ALA activist Avi Yemini said the Government should create a quota for South Africans within the humanitarian visa intake for next financial year.

"We want a commitment … just like we did for the Syrians last year," he said.

"The only reason anybody [from the Government] can give that they're not doing that is because they're white and they're Christian."

ALA president Debbie Robinson said South Africans did not have time to wait for visas.

"The situation in South Africa right now is dire," she said.

"There are people being slaughtered, women and children [are] being raped.

"[Visas], they take time and there is no time for these people, they are going to disappear if we don't do something soon."

ALA protesters accused of racism
Sarah, who spoke on behalf of the gathered left-wing groups, said the ALA and their supporters were racists.

"I would describe that petition as being white Australia policy by stealth," she said.

"They know they can't come out and say 'let's ban black and white refugees', so instead they do it by stealth."

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton caused a diplomatic row last month when he said white farmers were facing "horrific circumstances" in South Africa and deserved "special attention" from a civilised country.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull later said Australia had been raising its concerns with the South African Government about violence there.

He reiterated Australia's humanitarian program was open to South Africans who feared persecution, but insisted no special category would be required.

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This is from the ABC and I would like you all to note that the article names the Australian Liberty Alliance but only refers to its opposition protest as "left wing groups".

I personally am triggered by this very subtle bias.

Also;

Brown Paper Bag
Nov 3, 2012

https://twitter.com/tminear/status/984291788004315137

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Anidav posted:

Both sides taunted each other from across the street, with the left-wingers holding signs saying "fight racism" while the right-wingers carried banners saying "let the right ones in".

Both sides are equal you see, two sides of the same coin.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
In the past the ABC would've referred to the ALA as a neo-nazi group but now they are 'right wingers'

smh

Brown Paper Bag
Nov 3, 2012

Anidav posted:

In the past the ABC would've referred to the ALA as a neo-nazi group but now they are 'right wingers'

smh

Sorry what's the difference?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
This is a bit late now. Was busy getting hammered after work.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-13/what-your-habits-reveal-about-your-social-class/9610658

Apparently I'm a "young 20s male, high school education". Thanks ABC survey.

I'm an unsophisticated uneducated piece of poo poo because I don't spend all my free time listening to operas and browsing book stores :lol:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Brown Paper Bag posted:

Sorry what's the difference?

Stance on Israel.

EDIT: Your cultural tastes are most similar to a working class man, aged 25-39 with a vocational education.

hooman fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Apr 13, 2018

Pinball Jizzard
Jun 23, 2010

bandaid.friend posted:

Sydney's light rail extension is going to cost more and finish years later than expected. The company subcontracted for construction says they weren't told how much stuff was under the roads, or where, and they're suing the state. The brand-new rail line between Epping and Chatswood is going to be shut down for a year, replaced by buses, to convert it for "metro” cars

On the subject of light rail. This is what happens when you don’t spend money on the project feasibility studies and assessments.

On the subject of Epping to Chatswood. It’s less than a year and the “new” 10 year old rail line is being upgraded to provide a better service. Short term pain for long term gains.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Anidav posted:

In the past the ABC would've referred to the ALA as a neo-nazi group but now they are 'right wingers'

smh

Seems like an accurate description of the current political climate.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:

Cheap Trick posted:

Also a new stadium at Parramatta. And I haven't heard of the Olympic Park upgrade being shelved, unless it happened within the last three days. What a colossal waste of money.
The original idea was to knock down and rebuild both stadiums, now the government only plans to rebuild Moore Park while the olympic stadium will simply be refurbished

Pinball Jizzard posted:

On the subject of light rail. This is what happens when you don’t spend money on the project feasibility studies and assessments.

On the subject of Epping to Chatswood. It’s less than a year and the “new” 10 year old rail line is being upgraded to provide a better service. Short term pain for long term gains.
Yeah seven months is a lot less than a year, huh. I was lazy and put that in off memory. I don't think the metro is a bad idea but I do think it's real odd the line is being redone so soon after being built

Pinball Jizzard
Jun 23, 2010

bandaid.friend posted:

Yeah seven months is a lot less than a year, huh. I was lazy and put that in off memory. I don't think the metro is a bad idea but I do think it's real odd the line is being redone so soon after being built

Epping to Chatswood had infrastructure issues and I believe was identified for the northwest metro when the project was first discussed 15+ years ago. Given how pressing it was, they built it first. This isn’t atypical for massive rail projects as it provides proof of feasibility for these projects.

People give NSW transport divisions a bad rap, but they have very good long term strategy right now.


*edit* A report from 2009 containing the ECRL identified for metro to the northwest. https://www.opengov.nsw.gov.au/download/11875 prior to this, it would have been identified outside of the “metro” remit and I don’t have the patience to search.

Pinball Jizzard fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Apr 14, 2018

Owers
Nov 13, 2004

I want to be lean and mean.
People seem to forget that the Epping-Chatswood line was originally supposed to be the Parramatta-Chatwood line, but was left half-finished by the Bob Carr government. On its own, the line wasn't doing much. Converting it to metro and isolating it from the network will actually help to reduce congestion and improve service overall, especially once it connects to the CBD metro and the Bankstown line is converted. The overall metro plan is not a bad one, but my main concern is that it runs a little too far for trains that mostly have standing room only.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Peter Dutton’s department blocked a white South African farmer’s asylum bid because its evidence showed “the vast majority of crimes against whites are not racially motivated”.

lol what

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Activists torched the surfboard clock at south bank to protest the commonwealth and police brutality

This will be interpreted well, I'm sure

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
What are they asking for?

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

JBP posted:

What are they asking for?
Less surfboards and clocks.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
So, noted friend-of-the-mafia Matthew Guy is actually not just taking donations from the Mafia for the liberal party but well, helping them out.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/liberal-figure-promoted-alleged-mafia-don-to-italian-business-chamber-20180413-p4z9hv.html

quote:

A Liberal Party figure appointed by Opposition leader Matthew Guy to lead the state's property development agency personally promoted the alleged head of the Calabrian Mafia in Australia to a prominent business body.

Tony De Domenico used his position last October as president of the Italian Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Melbourne to make alleged mafia boss Tony Madafferi, a chamber member.

The move prompted the intervention of the Italian embassy, which demanded Mr Madafferi’s membership be blocked because of his notorious reputation.


Mr De Domenico pushed for Mr Madafferi’s membership of the chamber’s Melbourne chapter just weeks after Mr Guy was enveloped in a public scandal over revelations that he met Mr Madafferi at a lobster restaurant in April 2017.

Mr Madafferi would have been able to use his membership to move among the chamber’s business and political networks.

Mr Guy appointed Mr De Domenico as chair of the state’s property development agency Places Victoria (now Development Victoria) in 2014.

Mr De Domenico is a former Liberal deputy chief minister in the Australian Capital Territory and more recently the head of Victorian branch of the private sector development lobby, the Urban Development Institute of Australia.

He is, and has been, a member of a slew of semi-government boards and was formerly a deputy chancellor of Latrobe University. Treasurer Scott Morrison, in his former role as social services minister, appointed Mr De Domenico to chair the Australian Housing and Urban Research Institute in 2014. He has also served as Trade Commissioner to Italy.

Mr De Domenico was, until last month, also the chairman of the Italian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, a committee part funded by the Italian government that promotes business and political links between Australia and Italy.

After eight years as chamber chairman, he was voted off the board in March partly, The Age understands, because of concerns about his support for Mr Madafferi.

In an interview with The Age, Mr De Domenico denied he had pushed for the alleged mafia figure to be given chamber membership, describing the allegation as "crap".

"That’s not true mate,’’ he said when asked specifically about the October chamber of commerce meeting.

Mr De Domenico said he had neither a personal nor a commercial relationship with Mr Madafferi: "No relationship whatsoever".

"I know who he (Madafferi) is, but I don’t know him.’’

Mr De Domenico did not respond to repeated attempts for further comment.

But documents reveal that in October, De Domenico nominated Market Europa, a chain of green groceries owned by the alleged mafia chief for corporate membership of the Italian chamber.

Confidential chamber documents created in October and November last year show a resolution in which the chamber accepted, as a group, 10 new individual and corporate members.

The following resolution records that Mr De Domenico then "handed up a duly filled up application’’, seeking membership for "Europa Market (sic), run by T. Madafferi’’.

The documents show that the following month, Mr Madafferi's proposed membership was withdrawn.

Leaked files seen by Fairfax Media reveal the nomination of Mr Madafferi caused grave concerns among Italian diplomats and some chamber members because of his alleged Calabrian mafia involvement.

The nomination came just weeks after the The Age’s August revelation that Mr Guy secretly dined with Mr Madafferi, his cousin, market gardener Frank Lamattina, and others, at the Lobster Cave restaurant at Beaumaris in Melbourne’s south east in April 2017.

The Andrews government seized on the revelations, claiming it was gross hypocrisy for a tough-on-crime crusader like Guy to dine with a man police had had banned from Crown Casino and all Victorian race tracks.

In his last day as planning minister in 2014 – ahead of the caretaker period prior to the 2014 state election – Mr Guy appointed Mr De Domenico to a three-year contract as chairman of Places Victoria, the precursor to Development Victoria.

Development Victoria is responsible for developing state government-owned buildings and land such as Docklands.

Labor saw Mr De Domenico's appointment as a provocative move so close to the election, particularly since Mr De Domenico had often voiced opposition to government having a role in property development. Still, Labor re-appointed him as deputy chairman in 2017.

The saga leaves a major cloud over Mr De Domenico, especially given his membership of government boards where high standards of probity are crucial. In an affidavit filed in court in June 2017 in support of Mr Madafferi's ban from the casino and race tracks, Detective Superintendent Peter Brigham said the police hold "substantial intelligence" indicating Mr Madafferi had "substantial and close involvement with serious criminal conduct including drug importation, murder and extortion".

Mr Madafferi, who also part owns the national pizza chain La Porchetta, has never been charged with any crime and denies any wrongdoing.

In the early 2000s, police intelligence linking Mr Madafferi to allegations of "murder, gunshot wounding and arson" was detailed in court but vehemently denied by Mr Madafferi.

Prior to that, he was named as a suspected hitman in two coronial inquests in the 1990s. He was identified in a recent police intelligence briefing as the leader of a Calabrian Mafia cell in Melbourne that remains a powerful presence at Victoria's wholesale fruit and vegetable market.


Mr Madafferi’s cousin Frank Lamattina is a long standing supporter of the Liberal party.

In September, The Sunday Age also revealed that Mr Madafferi was pressing through one of his companies, Madan Nominees, for government approval to develop a semi-rural/green wedge property he owned in Melbourne’s south east that would deliver him a windfall of as much as $120 million.

On Friday a spokesman for the Italian Chamber of Commerce and Industry stressed that the chamber had elected a new, more youthful board, had overhauled its governance and accountability arrangements, and and that problems like the Madafferi membership saga would not occur again.

The fruit, veg and pizza mafia. Brought to you by the Liberal Party of Victoria.

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Well I guess if the American Republican Party are going with Russian criminals, the Liberals might as well shack up with the Italian Mafia.

Vote 1 Big Tony.

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