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Spuckuk posted:I'm assuming you mean, moty excluding non WWE promotions because lol I also regret to inform that Styles/Cena was also on that Rumble card, and, well
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VJeff posted:All of the incredible wrestling in the last two years and a a pair of overbooked spotfests with AJ and Owens are MotY candidates. Good gravy. If you didn't like those matches then I guess that's your right, but they were very popular here when they happened
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Apr 13, 2018 21:27
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I can't think of better Roman matches than the ones with AJ.
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Jackie D posted:If you didn't like those matches then I guess that's your right, but they were very popular here when they happened The AJ match really pisses me off for reasons that have little-to-nothing to do with Roman as a performer but it still pisses me off nonetheless. The Owens match was really good and is what turned me around on Roman the first time and made me realize, oh, this guy's actually a good wrestler. But MotY candidates? Seriously? Even if you JUST narrowed it down to WWE main roster, you're putting them in the same conversation as stuff like the Cena/AJ matches, the Owens/Zayn matches, Neville's entire run as Cruiserweight Champion, where they just do not belong. MJeff fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Apr 13, 2018 |
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In that they we're nominated here, and were 4+ star matches, yes Remember a lot of people still don't watch njpw or nxt poo poo, last year outside of styles/Cena and reigns/Owens at the rumble I have a hard time thinking of another main roster contender. I know people liked the 4-way at SummerSlam but I was too salty about Jinder going over Nakamura to watch Jackie D fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 13, 2018 |
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Apr 13, 2018 21:36
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As soon as we start equating very good with MOTYC we're all turbofucked for life
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Apr 13, 2018 21:38
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Match of the year candidates? More like nap of the year candidates haha Roman loving sucks and he was carried by Bryan to his best match.
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Apr 13, 2018 21:44
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Anything above like ****1/2 is a MOTY candidate, who gives a poo poo
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Anything above like ****1/2 is a MOTY candidate, who gives a poo poo Which neither of the matches in question, or in fact, any of Roman's matches (with, apparently, one exception, that SummerSlam four-way) were, soooooo.
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Apr 13, 2018 21:52
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I mean I frequently don’t have the spoons to reasonably concentrate on any wrestling other than WWE, especially if it doesn’t have good English commentary, so I’m sorry if I’m not the smarkiest oval office on PSP but Roman Reigns is one of my favourite wrestlers in the world today and he’s been an integral part of some of my favourite WWE matches of the past decade so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Apr 13, 2018 22:03
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NJPW has Kevin Kelly and Don Callis on commentary for most of the major tours and shows now. They have greatly improved together, took some time to get the chemistry down. They're probably now the #2 team in all of wrestling behind Mauro and Nigel
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Apr 13, 2018 22:10
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So they're shittier than Mauro?
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Apr 13, 2018 22:10
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shittier than mauro is a short list and i dont think you can call matt striker or josh matthews active anymore
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Jenkem Delivery posted:NJPW has Kevin Kelly and Don Callis on commentary for most of the major tours and shows now. They have greatly improved together, took some time to get the chemistry down. They're probably now the #2 team in all of wrestling behind Mauro and Nigel Don Callis sucks
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Apr 13, 2018 22:15
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I tune out all commentary
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Apr 13, 2018 22:16
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Venomous posted:Don Callis sucks I have hated Don goddamn Callis for about 20 years now, and I have to say I find him tolerable to enjoyable on NJPW. He has ratcheted the "here's why you're a brainless mark and stupid" smug, smirking bullshit down a great deal, imo. Kelly is a'ight.
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Apr 13, 2018 22:41
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Callis runs from Minoru Suzuki in fear all the time which is cool and good
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Apr 13, 2018 22:44
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Mauro's absolute worst trait as a commentator is that he telegraphs near-falls way too much. This was at its absolute worst in the first Almas/Gargano match where his fake "oh no it's all over" more or less ruined a crucial near-fall for the TV audience. Michael Cole is legitimately better at not making his near-fall calls too obvious.
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Venomous posted:I mean I frequently don’t have the spoons to reasonably concentrate on any wrestling other than WWE, especially if it doesn’t have good English commentary, so I’m sorry if I’m not the smarkiest oval office on PSP but Roman Reigns is one of my favourite wrestlers in the world today and he’s been an integral part of some of my favourite WWE matches of the past decade so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Legit question, what do you get out of Roman? Like, I don't hate the dude but I don't get the appeal. Like, he was cool in the shield and has been a big meh to me for years. What is it that a Roman fan loves about him?
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Gumball Gumption posted:Legit question, what do you get out of Roman? Like, I don't hate the dude but I don't get the appeal. Like, he was cool in the shield and has been a big meh to me for years. What is it that a Roman fan loves about him? All four moves he can do? His poor selling and facials?
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Apr 13, 2018 23:01
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Callis runs from Minoru Suzuki in fear all the time which is cool and good When else is he going to have time to go take a piss?
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Apr 13, 2018 23:11
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Hot take: Vic Joseph is the best lead commentator in WWE
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sportsgenius86 posted:Hot take: Vic Joseph is the best lead commentator in WWE  Vic rules. Nigel rules. Percy....is there. I guess.
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Apr 13, 2018 23:20
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I don’t hate Mauro as much as I used to but he’s very “two steps forward, one step back” for me in that his big calls are wonderful but there’s so much forced unnecessary poo poo that makes me groan during matches.
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Apr 13, 2018 23:25
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the thanos thing at takeover was brutal
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St Evan Echoes posted:the thanos thing at takeover was brutal -ly entertaining? I agree!
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The Infinity Wars reference is legit on the level of "TAP OUT BATISTA" for me.
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That wasn’t a reference that was reading the YouTube trailer description.
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He's doing his commentary job AND uploading to his reaction channel at the same time? Mauro's a triple threat, baby!
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Gumball Gumption posted:Legit question, what do you get out of Roman? Like, I don't hate the dude but I don't get the appeal. Like, he was cool in the shield and has been a big meh to me for years. What is it that a Roman fan loves about him? His ability to get Vince McMahon to leave money on the table by continuing to push him instead of finding someone who people actually like is pretty great.
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WWE just had it's most profitable quarter ever and Roman main evented the last 3 biggest gate Mania's. He is not the guy but he is not losing money for the WWE
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Venomous posted:I mean I frequently don’t have the spoons to reasonably concentrate on any wrestling other than WWE, especially if it doesn’t have good English commentary, so I’m sorry if I’m not the smarkiest oval office on PSP but Roman Reigns is one of my favourite wrestlers in the world today and he’s been an integral part of some of my favourite WWE matches of the past decade so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Out of curiosity, how do you feel about wrestling without commentary? Stardom is pretty good (and all promos are subtitled in English, even some in ring ones) but I've known a few people who couldn't deal with zero commentary. Its not gonna deliver all of the MOTYCs that NJPW or PWG do, but they're still good, fun shows with great matches by excellent wrestlers. Also the shows are all cut up into individual matches+promos on their website, so if you decide you don't like certain performers it's probably really easy to avoid them. My big issue with them is there's no way to legally preview what you'll be getting without paying. You have to go look up matches on YouTube or whatever in order to get an idea.
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Randaconda posted:All four moves he can do? His poor selling and facials? HE'S LAUGHING. ROMAN REIGNS IS LAUGHING AT THIS POST I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
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Defiance Industries posted:His ability to get Vince McMahon to leave money on the table by continuing to push him instead of finding someone who people actually like is pretty great. The only person who probably could could beat Roman in revenue if he was healthy was Daniel Bryan.
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exploded mummy posted:The only person who probably could could beat Roman in revenue if he was healthy was Daniel Bryan. Well, do I have some good news for you!
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I mean, Vince'd be at least a few million richer if he didn't have to keep shelling out to Brock because DAMMIT NEXT TIME IT'LL WORK, but I don't think Roman's affecting the company's bottom line negatively, even in the CM Punk "millionaire that should be a billionaire" way. Vince has successfully built himself an infrastructure where he'll make the same amount of money no matter who he pushes. That's basically the entire reason this Roman thing has gone on for so long.
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VJeff posted:Vince'd be at least a few million richer if he didn't have to keep shelling out to Brock because DAMMIT NEXT TIME IT'LL WORK. He's probably be a lot richer if he hadn't killed WWE pay per view.
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Gaz-L posted:Well, do I have some good news for you! Yeah, but Vince didn't leave money on the table with Bryan since he started to push Roman. Roman's push started after Bryan was out for 8 months with his neck injury. Then Bryan was only around for like 4 months before he got concussed and wasn't medically cleared for 2 years. Also for those reasons, you shouldn't be making Bryan the #1 guy even though he's back. He's too much of a risk to build plans around now.
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remusclaw posted:He's probably be a lot richer if he hadn't killed WWE pay per view. I dunno about that, can you imagine many people dropping 60 bucks a pop on most or even some of the PPVs they've put on in the last four years?
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exploded mummy posted:Yeah, but Vince didn't leave money on the table with Bryan since he started to push Roman. Roman's push started after Bryan was out for 8 months with his neck injury. "You shouldn't push Bryan because he's too much of a risk for head injuries" falls super flat after Sunday. Like, I could not find more perfect evidence that Vince absolutely does not give a poo poo about concussions.
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