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Artum posted:Point being hes a cruise missile that you point at something big and expensive the enemy has to cripple them since they WILL die. No life lost in the service of the Emperor is lost in vain, tovarish.
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It also takes basically all of your CP to do so. Of course he's a perfectly solid character even if you don't use those command points. He just scales REALLY well due to AoW and The Red Thirst.
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I stopped running chapter master recently because I was getting tired of having no cp and god drat its nice to be able to make more decisions. Now I'm just waiting on that glorious day when I use honour the chapter and get all 3 cp back.
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You can also do the much less damage totally fair variant where he falls to the Black Rage with Gift of Foresight and he just jump packs around with a 3++/5+++ and the Angel's Wing so he can't be overwatched and rerolls his charges.
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Groetgaffel posted:I would, if I had my lychguard assembled, which I don't. Yeah, the lack of quantum shielding or an invuln make both the Monolith and the Obelisk a complete joke for their costs. If you asked me to play test the codex I’d be comfortable starting my testing with the Monolith at 300-320 points - it’s literally less hard to kill with anti tank weapons than a single plagueburst crawler, and even if we accept those as blatantly undercosted their “fair” price is probably in the 170-180 range. Sure it has nice gimmicks, but one of the problems with 8th edition (much though I love it) is that the murderousness means that a high priority target can’t afford to pay points for its gimmicks unless it’s also gifted some survival mechanism. The Obelisk I would literally just send back to the writers with “what the gently caress is this even for?” sharpied on the datasheet. It needs a complete overhaul to be useful, and there are tonnes of places they could have gone with it that they just didn’t - how about removing the fly keyword from d3 targets at the start of each opponents turn? Some sort of mechanic to punish deep striking flyers? Gravity pulse as a targeted weapon? But then Tesseract Vaults, both flavours of ark and command barges are really good, and triarch stalkers, night scythes and maayyybe annihilation barges (though I worry they never put out enough “threat”) see to have at least some uses. The vehicles are bizarrely uneven by modern codex standards.
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Apr 13, 2018 23:22
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The Anvil kickstarter gave me the motivation to update my list of Sisters models, I also got in contact with Grishnak to confirm that while his website is long-defunct, he still takes orders via email, so his stuff has been added. Like i've said before, if anyone knows of any other 3rd-party sisters that aren't on the list, point them out and I'l happily toss them in with a writeup.
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Man the monolith used to be like 200 points. 250 at most I think.  This new iteration does nothing new, and it's way worse at deep striking. Especially on a terrain heavy board, which is pretty much mandatory in 8th. And it's more fragile. Used to be that you could never roll more than one D6 for penetration. Translating that to 8th could be some kind of damage reduction, but no they axed it entirely. All the while jacking the price up at least 50%.
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Yeah for invasion beam tricks I can see using anything besides a single scythe. Even then just doing veil or deceiver tricks is better.
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Apr 13, 2018 23:49
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After multiple moves over 15 years, it appears my warboss's boss pole snapped.  I am not an expert with modeling, but I think even if I use green stuff, it would not hold well. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I could fix the pole and maybe make it sturdier so it doesn't snap in the future?
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Apr 14, 2018 00:04
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Is it large enough that you could pin it?
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Apr 14, 2018 00:13
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Nunes posted:After multiple moves over 15 years, it appears my warboss's boss pole snapped. Oxyacetylene torch? 
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Apr 14, 2018 00:22
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If you have a soldering tool you can use solder material with a low melting point to weld them together. If any of the broken-off pole part touches your boss's back you should have enough contact area for superglue to do its job, though.
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Apr 14, 2018 00:25
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Neurolimal posted:If you have a soldering tool you can use solder material with a low melting point to weld them together. 
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Apr 14, 2018 00:27
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Nunes posted:After multiple moves over 15 years, it appears my warboss's boss pole snapped. You could consider making a sheath joint out of a very thin styrene tube. Shouldn't be too hard to to add a couple tiny rivets and it'd look suitably orky. Only tricky bit would be finding the right size tube.
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Cainer posted:Is it large enough that you could pin it? I think it is too small for this. Originally I was hoping I could do that.
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Apr 14, 2018 00:32
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Giant Isopod posted:You could consider making a sheath joint out of a very thin styrene tube. Shouldn't be too hard to to add a couple tiny rivets and it'd look suitably orky. Only tricky bit would be finding the right size tube. What kind of tube would this be? I don't know what would work for this.
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You can use the pole as a pin. Drill down into the slot where the pole used to be. It'll be a little shorter and further back but it'll hold.
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Nunes posted:What kind of tube would this be? I don't know what would work for this. I was thinking something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Round-Tubing-1-8-5/dp/B0006O5FEG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1523662281&sr=8-5&keywords=styrene+tube but you'd probably need smaller I'm guessing. I was thinking something like: cut a small length of tube, glue the banner halfway in, then on the other half of the tube cut in from the side halfway and cut down, creating a bracket for it to rest on, like a flagpole mount.
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I would drill down into the metal and put the pole in that. A surface join will be very brittle.
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I've broken that boss pole before and it's a loving pain to fix. There isn't enough space to pin it effectively. You're basically stuck getting rid of the original pole entirely, putty up the damage from where the pole connects to the back of the standard, add a brass rod and resculpt the detail that fastens the pole to the standard. Or just cut it off entirely and use a plastic one from a job or something
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Option 5: sculpt a gretchin sitting on the broken base holding the pole high in the air
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Frobbe posted:Speaking of custodes, there's some really rad ones available in this kickstarter from Anvil Industries *throws money at screen* They look like they'll be great to paint too. Will be able to focus on shading rather than picking out fifty bits of visual noise per model.
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Neurolimal posted:Option 5: sculpt a gretchin sitting on the broken base holding the pole high in the air RIP Makari: gone but never forgotten.
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Big Willy Style posted:I've broken that boss pole before and it's a loving pain to fix. There isn't enough space to pin it effectively. You're basically stuck getting rid of the original pole entirely, putty up the damage from where the pole connects to the back of the standard, add a brass rod and resculpt the detail that fastens the pole to the standard. Or just cut it off entirely and use a plastic one from a job or something Criminy this hobby forces you to put up with some poo poo.
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You've had it for 15 years but it's still bare metal?
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panascope posted:Criminy this hobby forces you to put up with some poo poo. Delicate breakable stuff is why I abandoned Dark Eldar after only a few games in 3rd edition. Loved the army but all those thin pointy spikes made transporting intact a nightmare.
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Nunes posted:After multiple moves over 15 years, it appears my warboss's boss pole snapped. Paint it. It's been 15 years duder.
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Hustlin Floh posted:You've had it for 15 years but it's still bare metal? Yeah I started to get into it back in 2003 but got sidetracked with life and it was in a box since. I am now finally trying to get everything assembled and then am going to try my hand at painting. Ideally, I do not end up like the guys in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c
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Is combining a Primaris lieutenant and stalker bolt rifle with a squad of scout snipers as good an idea as it seems? Re-rolling 1s to wound to increase the chance of throwing mortal wounds onto enemies seems cool, but I dunno if I'm wasting his points having him planted in a corner with the scouts.
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DancingShade posted:Delicate breakable stuff is why I abandoned Dark Eldar after only a few games in 3rd edition. Loved the army but all those thin pointy spikes made transporting intact a nightmare. Sanguniary Guard wings, plus the old style Citadel cases 
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TheBigAristotle posted:Is combining a Primaris lieutenant and stalker bolt rifle with a squad of scout snipers as good an idea as it seems? Re-rolling 1s to wound to increase the chance of throwing mortal wounds onto enemies seems cool, but I dunno if I'm wasting his points having him planted in a corner with the scouts. Also would keeping my devastator squad nearby be asking for trouble?
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TheBigAristotle posted:Also would keeping my devastator squad nearby be asking for trouble? I think it could prove beneficial.
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That's my thought, I figure devastators are always targets anyway. 1250 point escalation league on Sunday, bringing all my new toys: Imperial Fists Gravis armor Captain Lysander Primaris Lieutenant with Stalker 4x Scouts w/ knives + 1x heavy bolter 5x Scout Snipers 5x Intercessors 3x Aggressors 1x Ironclad Dreadnought 5x Terminators, including an assault cannon Devastator unit with 4x Missile Launchers Feels like I don't have enough shooting to justify the captain, so I might swap him out for something else. I could do a laserback with a tactical squad, scrap the scouts, maybe. Then again, given the lovely time constraints from last month's 1000 point game (GW store has 4 4x4 tables, and too many people) I might be ok if I'm alive on enough control points by the end of turn 2, which is probably all I'll get. Gonna shuffle it around a bit before Sunday I'm sure.
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Neurolimal posted:Emphasis on low-melting point of course, since Pewter isn't exactly the strongest of metals. It isn't the strongest of joins and you can't even manipulate the solder properly since the soldering iron will melt the pewter as well.
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Sanford posted:Some other bits, including a Space Hulk terminator at last. I love the chestburster ripper.
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Thought you guys might be interested, I'm selling a lot of Tyranids in SA-Mart.
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Neurolimal posted:I'm actually working on a sisters army (first one!), so that repressor would be pretty nice id like to see the progress youve made on your sisters army friend 
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Guy Goodbody posted:Thought you guys might be interested, I'm selling a lot of Tyranids in SA-Mart. I see the army's half-done, what made you quit em? e: nvm read the SA Mart description. I feel ya. I feel like Space Marines will be my next army too because I don't want a million goddamn models to paint
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TheBigAristotle posted:I see the army's half-done, what made you quit em? Yeah, I think I'll try Primaris Blood Angels next. Way fewer models and it'll be easy to make them all unique
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