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I haven't actually seen a cooking anime but I think that's something I'm supposed to be annoyed by.
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Motto posted:I haven't actually seen a cooking anime but I think that's something I'm supposed to be annoyed by. It's illegal to be annoyed by it, sorry.
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Apr 13, 2018 23:41
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Isekai Shokudou was good, even if some people didn't appreciate it.  I'd definitely recommend it over this so far but this seems to be going for the Shokugeki EXPLOSIVE reactions over Shokudou's more relaxed tone. Also Izakaya is a 10 minute short.
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Apr 13, 2018 23:42
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There's been a couple japanese restaurants in fantasy land novels/comics but I think Nobu was the first one, mostly. I'm pretty sure....
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Apr 13, 2018 23:42
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When are they gonna sub the cooking papa anime
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Apr 13, 2018 23:45
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Motto posted:Is it another show about fantasy people flipping out over generic Japanese food yeah it's great Knorth posted:Has there been more than one of those? Restaurant to Another World, it was great
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Apr 14, 2018 00:08
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The new FMP is off to a strong start. I'll admit i was slightly worried that all the robots were gonna be CG but I was pleasantly surprised by how smoothly they moved, and they're cel-shaded enough to not look particularly out of place. The show looks quite good in general, and there were a few moments of 2d animation that looked particularly impressive. I am sad however that they're seemingly skipping over "A Dancing Very Merry Christmas" but I can understand why.
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Apr 14, 2018 01:00
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DisDisDis posted:I had an urge to watch Wotakoi but I was in the middle of a serious Lou Reed binge so I put it on at like 30% volume. Didn't like the VAs at first but they grew on me. It seems to be pretty much exactly the comic and I have the exact same problems with it as the comic so I'll just keep reading it instead. Successfully continuing No Show Spring. Hmm what are your problems w/the comic? I would like a longer story arc vs mini-stories w/the cast like the date chapter was cute 
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The longer I read it the more weird it feels to be reading a story with constant jokes about gay characters as a niche nerd interest thing, and no actual gay characters. The girls come off as really bi to me but like, the story doesn't make this enough of a thing to alleviate that problem. (I'd usually be really into a couple with a guy who looks like a metro gay and a girl who looks like a dumpy nerd guy, but that also feels weird in this context) And every thing with fujo jokes does the two women almost come to blows over whether a guy is a top or bottom which is like, a weird thing to feel so strongly about, to me, but whatever I've laughed at every other series that's done that joke. But there's one page in Wotakoi that is just over the moon loving weird to me and reading that probably made me harsher on all the other problems I have with it.
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Apr 14, 2018 01:59
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i hadn't thought of it that way but that's very reasonable
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Apr 14, 2018 02:11
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All the after chapter illustrations of the mean green one are extremely Good Content though
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Apr 14, 2018 02:20
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I want Koyanagi to be voiced by Yuu Kobayashi, but I think she is not.
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I can't find the page in question but it's an omake thing where the redhead goes like "I won't buy doujins with guro, rape or reversal (switching according to TL note)" and uh, it's extremely weird to compare normal and common gay sexual dynamics to guro and rape just imo
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Apr 14, 2018 02:44
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She is voiced by Miyuki Sawashiro, who is perfect
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DisDisDis posted:I can't find the page in question but it's an omake thing where the redhead goes like "I won't buy doujins with guro, rape or reversal (switching according to TL note)" and uh, it's extremely weird to compare normal and common gay sexual dynamics to guro and rape just imo Huh, that is weird
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DisDisDis posted:I can't find the page in question but it's an omake thing where the redhead goes like "I won't buy doujins with guro, rape or reversal (switching according to TL note)" and uh, it's extremely weird to compare normal and common gay sexual dynamics to guro and rape just imo 
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That's bit less weird in context I guess, can see why it'd be an issue though Also cements Koyanagi as the best, I thought that might be the case.
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Apr 14, 2018 03:19
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yeah that seems like "weirdly uptight shipper" rather than authorial equivocation
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Apr 14, 2018 03:54
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DisDisDis posted:I can't find the page in question but it's an omake thing where the redhead goes like "I won't buy doujins with guro, rape or reversal (switching according to TL note)" and uh, it's extremely weird to compare normal and common gay sexual dynamics to guro and rape just imo *looks into the camera and makes a face like Jim from the office*
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Space Flower posted:*looks into the camera and makes a face like Jim from the office* Lol
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Apr 14, 2018 04:54
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Motto posted:yeah that seems like "weirdly uptight shipper" rather than authorial equivocation It's weird in the same way the seme uke arguments are weird, just like, significantly more weird
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Space Flower posted:*looks into the camera and makes a face like Jim from the office* I don't know what this means I'm sorry
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Apr 14, 2018 05:05
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DisDisDis posted:It's weird in the same way the seme uke arguments are weird, just like, significantly more weird I mean, I totally agree it's something that weirds me out immensely, but it is a thing and the whole gimmick is that they're various strains of weird otaku, but dating.
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there are no gay people in the series because any sensible gay person would run screaming in the other direction after hearing one of these bits
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counterexample: the chat thread
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Motto posted:I mean, I totally agree it's something that weirds me out immensely, but it is a thing and the whole gimmick is that they're various strains of weird otaku, but dating. But that's the thing, it's not critical of their behavior at all and they're also not particularly weird, outside of this one thing. Like, Hirotaka is kind of expressionless and blunt and prefers being alone and playing videogames a lot of the time, but still socializes regularly. They all seem like well adjusted adults with nerdy interests. That's pretty normal from my perspective. So it feels like it's as normalizing to this attitude. And it just extra bothers me in context of my other issues with it. Like imagine if there was an omake with the scary face guy going "I won't buy yuri doujins where their love continues after highschool." There's probably yuri nerds like that, would still feel real odd to read in this comic and leave you with a pretty bad taste I imagine.
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that sort of character would make me uncomfortable inherently tbh. e: I dunno what my train of thought is at this point, but that omake basically seemed like playing out a stereotype I've seen elsewhere (fighting over pairing orders is a pretty stock one), so it doesn't come across as a unique excess of the author even if it sucks and could well be inaccurate for all I know. It'd definitely be nice if there was a character to go "uhhhhhhh" though for sure. Motto fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Apr 14, 2018 |
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Apr 14, 2018 05:28
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The true wotakoi would be without the koi and would also be one chapter where nothing happens.
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I really like Gurazeni. It's a baseball show that entirely focuses on a mid-level pitcher and his money problems, which skews the perspective to the point where it rarely even tells you if his team is winning. Everything is filtered through if it's good for his carrier or not, and you get the sense that everyone around him is in their own little bubbles in the same kind of way, and it's how all that fits together. It kind feels like a Fukumoto manga at times, but it's also kinda chipper about how everyone is reduced to how much they make. It's a funny tone and I like it.
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https://twitter.com/nickisnixed/status/985021355237302273?s=19
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wotakoi kinda rubs me the wrong way not really for any woke reason but just because the central joke to its existence isnt really commentary on nerd stuff like genshiken or whatever its just the fact that nerd stuff exists and otherwise normal people are into it. like isnt it wacky that a person works a soulsucking office job and then finds some small comfort in reading touken ranbu fanfiction or whatever. haha. and its like, nooot really? im not even accusing it of cyberbullying just like, thats a thing hundreds of thousands of people do. whats the joke. what do you have to say. itd be like reading a manga where the central joke is that a bunch of office workers get together to, idk, gently caress around with model trains on weekends, and there's no jokes outside of that or building on that and there's no like, investment into why they're into trains, its just 50 chapters of 'i like this train' *sitcom laugh track* 'well i like THIS train' *sitcom laugh track, but louder*
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The new FMP looked better than I thought it would but I'm not sure I'm ready for an all serious FMP plot in 2018 especially since what I've read of the manga/LN scans didn't really excite me Also I really wanted Sosuke and Chidori to just run from everyone as a plot point so we could get some Fummofu level humour Hinamatsuri 2 was great and while I thought nothing could touch the first half the second half final bit when Hina suggested going to the club was just A+
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Endorph posted:wotakoi kinda rubs me the wrong way not really for any woke reason but just because the central joke to its existence isnt really commentary on nerd stuff like genshiken or whatever its just the fact that nerd stuff exists and otherwise normal people are into it. like isnt it wacky that a person works a soulsucking office job and then finds some small comfort in reading touken ranbu fanfiction or whatever. haha. I'm making the train 4koma real and will not be stopped.
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Endorph posted:wotakoi kinda rubs me the wrong way not really for any woke reason but just because the central joke to its existence isnt really commentary on nerd stuff like genshiken or whatever its just the fact that nerd stuff exists and otherwise normal people are into it. like isnt it wacky that a person works a soulsucking office job and then finds some small comfort in reading touken ranbu fanfiction or whatever. haha. I don't think there's a joke it's just a romance about 2 couples of nerdy adults who work in an office together. Most of the jokes are about their nerd interests because the target audience is nerdy adults, I think. They all come off very normal and well adjusted and they tease each other about their interests sometimes but I never get the sense that I'm supposed to be laughing at them rather than with them. Motto posted:that sort of character would make me uncomfortable inherently tbh. yeah I take the pairing order stuff in stride because it's a trope (tho it bothers me less in kuragehime and that one reverse harem, I guess because they're about shut in nerds and teenagers respectively. e;oh theyre both a lot less het in their own way too) But that particular bit just felt like a bombshell to me for whatever reason, compounded by how I feel about how it deals with this stuff generally. DisDisDis fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Apr 14, 2018 |
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Yeah I never saw it as their hobbies were supposed to be The Joke more than in some sense (perhaps just wishful on the audience's part) validation that people with such hobbies are not alone.
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i don't even really get 'laughing at them' so much as just, like, it kind of paces itself like a comedy in some ways. at the very least its genre would be 'romcom.' theres just no jokes. and it seems more interested in surface level jokes than like, actually talking about these subcultures. idk. genshiken was good
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No I mean it's definitely a comedy but the take isn't "lol, look at these people who like videogames and manga, fcuking nerds" it's "lol, I too am a nerd." It's fair to say it's just a pretty drama/development free romance with nerd jokes but I think it's a good execution of that and not at all malicious.
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im not accusing it of being malicious!!!!! gently caress! im just saying the fact that nerd stuff exists isnt enough of a joke to me and theres no interesting commentary, information, or analysis of these subcultures or why they exist. this stuff is very interesting and layered and ties into japan's cultural history and the history of its post-war reformation, its brand of feminism, and its homosexual communities in a variety of ways, and just tossing it in there unseasoned by any of that is very boring to me. Endorph fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Apr 14, 2018 |
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