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Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll
It absolutely will.

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willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

JaySB posted:

Willie is wondering if his Wing Chun prowess should enable him to take on multiple attackers with hammers.

Not wing chun, we use the term McMMA to describe my training. But yea, if I can chase down one guy with a hammer 4 should be fine if I train 4 x as hard right?

kimbo305 posted:

What does this have to do with martial arts again?

On a serious note I'm just wondering if there is literally anything this poor bloke can do, and I guess the answer is nope your hosed.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

willie_dee posted:

On a serious note I'm just wondering if there is literally anything this poor bloke can do, and I guess the answer is nope your hosed.

There is; you insure your vehicle.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

willie_dee posted:

Not wing chun, we use the term McMMA to describe my training. But yea, if I can chase down one guy with a hammer 4 should be fine if I train 4 x as hard right?

:allears: willie is british Phoenix Jones. The vigilante goons need. Shoot for the stars.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Mechafunkzilla posted:

There is; you insure your vehicle.

Exactly. That video should be enough to convince your insurance adjuster once you file a police report. I wonder how long until the UK makes full-face tinted helmets illegal, though.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Liquid Communism posted:

Exactly. That video should be enough to convince your insurance adjuster once you file a police report. I wonder how long until the UK makes full-face tinted helmets illegal, though.

Right, and the guys out his deductible and his premiums go up next year because hes made a claim, the guy gets hosed over and there is literally nothing he can do.

Neon Belly
Feb 12, 2008

I need something stronger.

I want to produce a willie_dee voiceover clip of that Dan Bilzerian video during the Vegas shooting begging for cops to give him a gun so he can live out his Rambo fantasy.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

willie_dee posted:

Right, and the guys out his deductible and his premiums go up next year because hes made a claim, the guy gets hosed over and there is literally nothing he can do.

Yes, it really sucks that scooter theft is rampant. But I'm not sure what MA advice you're seeking to remedy the problem.

old.flv
Jan 28, 2017

A good lad who likes his Anna's.

Neon Belly posted:

I want to produce a willie_dee voiceover clip of that Dan Bilzerian video during the Vegas shooting begging for cops to give him a gun so he can live out his Rambo fantasy.

Thank you for reminding me of this.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Neon Belly posted:

I want to produce a willie_dee voiceover clip of that Dan Bilzerian video during the Vegas shooting begging for cops to give him a gun so he can live out his Rambo fantasy.

I wouldnt of needed a gun, my confidence, terrible training and advice of this forum is all I need to tackle anyone, I've ever been doing a bit of cardio recently so would of been able to run up the casino stairs. Like Mark Wahlberg, I wish I was on all the planes on 9/11, also I would of stopped Hitler the dude was tiny and had no training.

kimbo305 posted:

Yes, it really sucks that scooter theft is rampant. But I'm not sure what MA advice you're seeking to remedy the problem.

Just seeing if anyone could think of something I hadn't thought of, and the answer is clearly a resounding no, there is gently caress all you can do.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Forget the hammer; have you ever been near an angle grinder?

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
If you could set it up where you didn't burn your house down I wonder if a molotov from the window onto the thiefs below would be defendable in court.

Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll
Too unusual

I am Otis
Sep 22, 2003

:smugjones:

Odddzy
Oct 10, 2007
Once shot a man in Reno.
Urinate on your belongings to send a clear message to the bandits. They will avoid your territory.

ihop
Jul 23, 2001
King of the Mexicans
What if you dumped a bucket of difficult-to-remove, conspicuously colored/smelling liquid all over them?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

ihop posted:

What if you dumped a bucket of difficult-to-remove, conspicuously colored/smelling liquid all over them?

Dont clothing stores already do this on people shoplifting?

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

The problem with ANY kind of retaliation in Britain is that the criminals can turn around and sue (and often win) any kind of action like that. Citizens are implored to not interact in ANY way and to only let the Bobbies deal with it (or likely not).

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

DandyLion posted:

The problem with ANY kind of retaliation in Britain is that the criminals can turn around and sue (and often win) any kind of action like that. Citizens are implored to not interact in ANY way and to only let the Bobbies deal with it (or likely not).

This doesnt ring true? We don't have a sueing culture like America does here.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??

DandyLion posted:

The problem with ANY kind of retaliation in Britain is that the criminals can turn around and sue (and often win) any kind of action like that. Citizens are implored to not interact in ANY way and to only let the Bobbies deal with it (or likely not).

Not necessarily, reasonable force can be used to protect yourself/someone else/your property/someone else's property, of course their is that term "Reasonable" involved which is somewhat vague.
Provided this could be proved and the individual had an honest held belief that they/someone else/property was endanger then the courts wouldn't even bother with it.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Apparently the MMA fighter in the 2nd match who fought with only one hand didn't do it as a show of superiority, but because he has a messed up surgery on that forearm and actually can't use it for fighting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu6IXAEr3Vc&t=180s

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
Poor bloke, fair play to him.

Tacos Al Pastor
Jun 20, 2003

Hey guys, Jiu Jitsu question: Is there a name for the submission whereby I grab my opponent's foot and drive my elbow into their shin? (Its a sure tap from the pain) Typically done if someone takes my back but they done have their hooks in quite properly. I was shown this move from one of the FPJJ black belts who came up to visit from Sao Paulo. I managed to use it this morning and was playing around with the timing for catching it but I have no idea the name for it.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Tacos Al Pastor posted:

Hey guys, Jiu Jitsu question: Is there a name for the submission whereby I grab my opponent's foot and drive my elbow into their shin? (Its a sure tap from the pain) Typically done if someone takes my back but they done have their hooks in quite properly. I was shown this move from one of the FPJJ black belts who came up to visit from Sao Paulo. I managed to use it this morning and was playing around with the timing for catching it but I have no idea the name for it.

Unsure of the name but that seems like a super oval office move for the gym and would lead to aggressive strangulation.

Also, you should post in the grappling thread, it sees more traction.

Tacos Al Pastor
Jun 20, 2003

JaySB posted:

Unsure of the name but that seems like a super oval office move for the gym and would lead to aggressive strangulation.

Also, you should post in the grappling thread, it sees more traction.

Will do thanks. But I also see it kind of like on the same dirty level as a wristlock.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Tacos Al Pastor posted:

Will do thanks. But I also see it kind of like on the same dirty level as a wristlock.

Wristlocks are oval office moves too lol One of our brown belts consistently tries to wristlock me from top half and I normally just jam my knuckles into his collarbone, he was being quite aggressive about it the other day so I accidentally punched him in the throat.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
Hang on whats a wrist lock? Where you bend someone's hand in on itself?

As an aside

https://www.facebook.com/WhiteBeltBrazilianJiuJitsu/videos/2069476576400503/

Very satisfying self defence.

Tacos Al Pastor
Jun 20, 2003

JaySB posted:

Wristlocks are oval office moves too lol One of our brown belts consistently tries to wristlock me from top half and I normally just jam my knuckles into his collarbone, he was being quite aggressive about it the other day so I accidentally punched him in the throat.

:D

The person I did that move on is my training buddy and we are good friends and that mf'r is always trying to wristlock me (unsuccessfully) so I pulled this one when he took my back but honestly looking back on it I dont think Ill do it again. Mainly because it doesn't focus on the core fundamentals of getting out of that position. Also I dont even know if its tournament legal (except at black belt) But I will file that one away though.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



willie_dee posted:

Hang on whats a wrist lock? Where you bend someone's hand in on itself?


Essentially, yes. They're available from almost all arm lock positions as well as when people grab onto your collar or frame against you in lovely ways.

In general they're frowned upon in the gym because the line between pain and a broken wrist is reallllllly thin.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

willie_dee posted:

Hang on whats a wrist lock? Where you bend someone's hand in on itself?

As an aside

https://www.facebook.com/WhiteBeltBrazilianJiuJitsu/videos/2069476576400503/

Very satisfying self defence.

Yes. Unsurprisingly your wrist doesn't like bending that way.

old.flv
Jan 28, 2017

A good lad who likes his Anna's.
Wrist locks are a totally viable submission and are legal at blue belt lol

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Dudes try to wrist lock me all the loving time. The only time that ever gets me is if they're basically en-route to some other submission anyway. The last one I remember for sure was in spiderweb, a guy wrist locked my far arm. My wrist hurt for three days after that.

I should start doing dirty poo poo to people when they try to wrist lock me. I have one training partner who is stupidly obsessed with them.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




I’ve been tapped by wrist locks a single digit amount of times in 10 years of No-gi. And have probably tapped people less 20 times... most people just learn to keep their wrists straight.

Tacos Al Pastor posted:

Hey guys, Jiu Jitsu question: Is there a name for the submission whereby I grab my opponent's foot and drive my elbow into their shin? (Its a sure tap from the pain) Typically done if someone takes my back but they done have their hooks in quite properly. I was shown this move from one of the FPJJ black belts who came up to visit from Sao Paulo. I managed to use it this morning and was playing around with the timing for catching it but I have no idea the name for it.

Do you drive your elbow into their shin bone or like the inside of their calf? Because that can get taps too.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



There are some people (Pete The Greek and Sergio Penha come to mind) who are all about wrist locks and are actually really good at them.

quidditch it and quit it
Oct 11, 2012


I always liked them from a figure four grip for an armbar as a way of adding some extra threat.

02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004

I like using them to force a bend in the arm, the way Firas Zahabi does. Opens up darce/kimura opportunities.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I always tend to ignore a wrist lock simple due to not having it drilled into my thick head that they're an option.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Unfunny Poster posted:

I always tend to ignore a wrist lock simple due to not having it drilled into my thick head that they're an option.

At your gym it sounds like your only option is to release your opponent and politely bow before going for a no-hooks RNC.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CommonShore posted:

At your gym it sounds like your only option is to release your opponent and politely bow before going for a no-hooks RNC.

They'd probably then offer me some soju out of etiquette.

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Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
Sounds like my kinda gym

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