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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
I played a bunch of Thrones of Britannia, ask me anything

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Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Fangz posted:

I played a bunch of Thrones of Britannia, ask me anything

When is Norsca coming back?

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Fangz posted:

I played a bunch of Thrones of Britannia, ask me anything

Is it good?

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
what magic do the irish get

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

It seems alright. My main impression is that fortified town attacks are much harder than in Warhammer. Siege towers can only be used once, and boiling oil equipped gates kill half of any infantry that try walking through them.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

How much does it feel like Attila?

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Fangz posted:

I played a bunch of Thrones of Britannia, ask me anything

Can troops attack walls with ladders as standard (like warhammer) or do you need to build ladders for certain units to carry in the campaign map (like previous historical titles)?

Do factions get proper navies and what are they like?

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

Boiling oil in total war games is always incredibly overpowered

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Genghis Cohen posted:

Can troops attack walls with ladders as standard (like warhammer) or do you need to build ladders for certain units to carry in the campaign map (like previous historical titles)?

You have to build siege stuff to get on to walls. I couldn't climb them.

quote:

Do factions get proper navies and what are they like?

There's longboats and stuff. I didn't do a lot of naval combat.

It felt less tedious than Attila but I dunno, I never got very far with it.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.
Can I amass longbows and paint the sky black with my arrows?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Billzasilver posted:

Boiling oil in total war games is always incredibly overpowered

Boiling oil never makes sense to me. That stuff is expensive. Couldn't you just throw boiling water instead?

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

PureRok posted:

Can I amass longbows and paint the sky black with my arrows?

I'll have to try later as Wales but maybe not. Shields are everywhere and armour piercing on archers is weak. Playing as Vikings I did have to keep my two handed axemen away from skirmishers though.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Arcsquad12 posted:

Boiling oil never makes sense to me. That stuff is expensive. Couldn't you just throw boiling water instead?

Boiling oil sticks to your skin while it burns.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
It also can catch fire.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

It also can catch fire.

That seems bad if you have wooden walls.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Boiling oil is at 200C, water is below 100C. One is a lot nastier.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
Also they did use boiling water in medieval sieges, it's just that oil has that special touch.

KPC_Mammon
Jan 23, 2004

Ready for the fashy circle jerk
How did the AI handle the campaign map changes? Did you have to constantly deal with the AI sniping undefended villages?

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

KPC_Mammon posted:

How did the AI handle the campaign map changes? Did you have to constantly deal with the AI sniping undefended villages?

In the short bit of time I played, a village was sniped, yes

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Fangz posted:

I played a bunch of Thrones of Britannia, ask me anything

was it actually good?

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

jokes posted:

Boiling oil sticks to your skin while it burns.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Boiling oil never makes sense to me. That stuff is expensive. Couldn't you just throw boiling water instead?

Yeah, oil gets much hotter and sticks instead of bouncing off, which is especially important if the enemy wears armor. The heat doesn’t work immediately, it needs time to pass through clothing and armor.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Fangz posted:

You have to build siege stuff to get on to walls. I couldn't climb them.


There's longboats and stuff. I didn't do a lot of naval combat.

It felt less tedious than Attila but I dunno, I never got very far with it.

Thanks. Shame you can’t launch a daring escalade immediately, I think that’s a pretty cool way of representing attacking a town in an era that mostly lacked sophisticated siege equipment. I’m still definitely playing as sea vikings though.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands
Also I imagine the smell of crispy-fried Bob is super demoralizing to an attacker. Plus it's all slick and makes it harder to keep your footing while making your way up.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Have there been significant changes to the battle maps? While fidelity has been getting better with each game it still feels a bit cut and dry most of the time so more often than not battlefields look like abstractions of real terrain rather than genuine areas where battles would be fought.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Burning Oil made siege defense even more trivially easy in ME2:TW's expansions. You could just put your dudes in the interior of the gateway and the oil would burn 90% of the attackers.

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

It’s insane that gates just got infinite boiling oil and could dump a full cauldron every 15 seconds


Maybe balance it to pour much less frequently and only if the top of the gate is manned. Or have a limited number of pours that you activate on command, like a dwarven gyrocopter’s bombs.

Chopstix
Nov 20, 2002

Billzasilver posted:

It’s insane that gates just got infinite boiling oil and could dump a full cauldron every 15 seconds


Maybe balance it to pour much less frequently and only if the top of the gate is manned. Or have a limited number of pours that you activate on command, like a dwarven gyrocopter’s bombs.

I think the best compromise would be being able to pour the oil manually with a decent cooldown.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer
An important question for Thrones of Britannia: can I light everything on fire again? Watching everything burn was my favorite part of Atilla, even if it did murder my computer and didn't really add any tactical advantage.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Don Gato posted:

An important question for Thrones of Britannia: can I light everything on fire again? Watching everything burn was my favorite part of Atilla, even if it did murder my computer and didn't really add any tactical advantage.

It provided morale modifiers!

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
There was a lot of stuff being lit on fire, yes. Most viking units (well, the ones with axes) automatically set buildings on fire around them.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Did you get much of a go with the strategy map, did the agents feel more fun to use again?

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Not much, I'm afraid. I didn't touch agents.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Fangz posted:

Not much, I'm afraid. I didn't touch agents.

I'm glad to hear they aren't important then.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
No automatic ladders is dumb.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I had such a lot of fun with the agents in Shogun 2, its a shame that none of them since then have been fun.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I liked the rock paper scissors aspect of agents in Attila but once you got a high level agent operating in your lands it's almost impossible to get rid of him.
Agents in Warhammer are fun because they also fight in battle. The minotaur agents for beastmen are hilarious.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.
I wish agents would just go away. That way I don't have to get a mod every new game getting rid of them.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Same, but I do like mages in Warhammer and latching heroes onto my armies to bash dudes.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
They took agents out of ToB.

Or is that :thejoke:

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canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Is there a Shogun mod to make the agents behave like Warhammer heroes?
Would really like to have an oversized magic ninja or foreign veteran laying waste to the enemy battle lines

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