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Looks like the Scud is on top again and all the haters are melting down. Forza Ferrari!
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Khablam posted:He could just like, not do it. Vettel can market his sponsors products too. Or he could, if he wasn't as marketable as a dog-poo poo souffle
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Apr 14, 2018 19:44
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NtotheTC posted:Vettel can market his sponsors products too. Or he could, if he wasn't as marketable as a dog-poo poo souffle Oh I’m fairly confident he’s on billboards all over Africa.
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Apr 14, 2018 19:54
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learnincurve posted:Oh I’m fairly confident he’s on billboards all over Africa. They all think he's simple jack. Tropic Thunder is very big in Africa. Also, all of Vettel's sponsors are just doing it to launder money and don't actually need to market anything to anybody.
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Apr 14, 2018 19:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nLo_ZoOGX8 Forza Ferrari
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Apr 14, 2018 19:57
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Vettel should get a 5 place grid penalty for his haircut.
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Apr 14, 2018 20:01
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Khablam posted:He could just like, not do it. He’s also sponsored by Nike
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Apr 14, 2018 20:01
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DoctorGonzo posted:McLaren is already talking about a b car, right? “B cars” aren’t really a thing anymore. It’s more like B-G cars now because they are updated so often.
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Apr 14, 2018 20:05
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It's pretty rare to make big enough chassis changes mid season to qualify as a b car.
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Apr 14, 2018 20:10
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DoctorGonzo posted:McLaren is already talking about a b car, right? Don't think they've even gotten to the 'a' car yet.
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Apr 14, 2018 20:12
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The mid-90s basically put an end to using the same basic chassis 2 years in a row. I think Minardi were the last ones to do it.
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Frond posted:The mid-90s basically put an end to using the same basic chassis 2 years in a row. I think Minardi were the last ones to do it. MP4-17D my dude
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Apr 14, 2018 20:21
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Only 2 years.
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Apr 14, 2018 21:13
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Marussia ran '15 with their '14 car with minimal modifications to meet some new regs. They even called it the MR03B.
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Apr 14, 2018 21:14
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Something odd is going on for sure. Williams slower. Force India can’t keep up. Lewis only 0.003 faster in quali than last year Meanwhile at Ferrari they are 0.7 faster than last year’s quali. I’m going to go with Mercedes works and customer cars not being allowed to burn oil rather than some magic Ferrari cheat mode - It’s hard to see how they could be using the oil in some sneaky way given that you can see it pissing out the back of the car all race.
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learnincurve posted:I’m going to go with Mercedes works and customer cars not being allowed to burn oil rather than some magic Ferrari cheat mode - It’s hard to see how they could be using the oil in some sneaky way given that you can see it pissing out the back of the car all race. There is a million ways you can still cheat. They could be throwing hydraulic fluid into the combustion chamber to burn.
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The Kimoa Kid posted:MP4-17D my dude Pablo Bluth posted:Marussia ran '15 with their '14 car with minimal modifications to meet some new regs. They even called it the MR03B. I stand corrected. Sorry!
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learnincurve posted:Something odd is going on for sure. Force India - a poor team who have been caught up with by reality after a string of over-achieving cars. Mercedes - a team who have never really understood the Pirelli tyres as well as some of the other teams, and who no longer have a massive engine advance to cover up the days when they can't get the tyres to work.
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I don't hold a high opinion of Paddy Lowe but Mercedes did seem to have some grasp and level of understanding of the Pirellis when he was there. Whether there is a correlation or its just coincidence idk.
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Frond posted:I stand corrected. Sorry!
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1500quidporsche posted:I don't hold a high opinion of Paddy Lowe but Mercedes did seem to have some grasp and level of understanding of the Pirellis when he was there. Whether there is a correlation or its just coincidence idk.
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Apr 14, 2018 22:08
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learnincurve posted:Something odd is going on for sure. They are still allowed to burn some oil, however a big change that wasn't really talked about is you now have to run the same oil formulation in qualifying and the race, which is new for 2018. No more super lightweight qualifying oils. I'm leaning towards Merc really working on the tire wear issues that Ferrari had them beat on in 2017, and they've gotten to the point where they are so 'gentle' on the tries they couldn't get the tire temps up high enough during the out lap to really turn on the tires in the way Ferrari managed to. I don't think we will see the same gap going forward because no other track in the calendar will be as cold as this race is turning out to be, though the track should be warmer on Sunday, and that may be just enough.
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EoRaptor posted:They are still allowed to burn some oil, however a big change that wasn't really talked about is you now have to run the same oil formulation in qualifying and the race, which is new for 2018. No more super lightweight qualifying oils. Yeah the times on the soft tires are very close, Merc is just struggling to heat up the ultrasofts. I think Wolff even said as much in an interview.
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Pablo Bluth posted:They actually tried asking for special permission to start the year with the actual '14 car while they built a true '15 car. Fellow paupers and general party poopers Force India said nope. So they made the minimal changes required, called it a B spec and claimed there would be a proper 15 car later. They closed shop at the end of the season without ever making a new spec chassis. This is not true. They raced in 2016 using a Merc engine and a new car. It obviously wasn't very good, but it wasn't an old chassis.
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Pablo Bluth posted:I didn't say no understanding. Just they've been prone to the odd weekend when they can't get the tyres in to the right window. The rear axle is overworking the tires. Its why they've had a preference for harder compounds since it generates less heat. The fact that it's a reoccurring issue to me says they don't understand it, if they did they would've fixed it.
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I suspect that some share of Mercedes success can be attributed to the tyres blowing up in 2013 and Pirelli going super conservative on their compounds which probably masked the issues they had. Like everything else this is Red Bull's fault and they should be banned from the sport.
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Apr 14, 2018 22:59
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1500quidporsche posted:Red Bull should be banned from the sport.
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Most races they have 3 tires that are in a row as far as durability, right? I'm trying to remember a race that jumped a level like this, normal, soft, and then ultrasoft not supersoft. But maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to some races last year? Feels like more pressure from Liberty to spice up the sport, along with the added/increased DRS zones we've seen so far.
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Apr 14, 2018 23:54
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Zaphod42 posted:Most races they have 3 tires that are in a row as far as durability, right? I'm sure there was one, but I also recall it went ultra, super, then medium, and was useless. Everybody just ran the super. Or maybe super, soft, then hard? It jumped at the top end, not the bottom end.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKnAq3GZNXY He gets to Ricciardo at around 3m10s mark and the first thing Will Buxton says is "Word to your boys." This is NOT ok.
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Apr 15, 2018 00:36
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Ted gave Leclerc some cookie or something? SKy f1 is loving trash
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Buxton occasionally posts something good on the internet but his grid walks and poo poo are nearly as awful as Brundle and Ted.
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Apr 15, 2018 00:57
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1500quidporsche posted:The rear axle is overworking the tires. Its why they've had a preference for harder compounds since it generates less heat. The fact that it's a reoccurring issue to me says they don't understand it, if they did they would've fixed it. I remember James Allison's Renaults were always great with getting tires to work, so I assume given a little more time they'll have it figured out.
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Paddy Slow
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gret posted:I remember James Allison's Renaults were always great with getting tires to work, so I assume given a little more time they'll have it figured out. James Allison’s Renaults also had Nick the Norse working on them.
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Apr 15, 2018 02:43
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#RehireRon
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McLaren: a team majority owned by Bahrain and with essentially unlimited resources is a shitfuck of an rear end and desperately needs an entire top level reshuffle. Fire Zak Brown. Fire Boullier. Fire Everyone burn WOKING DOT THE THE FUCKIGN GROUND Then rehire Ron.
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