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Just a little tweak to Strassbourg, I'm sure it'll be fine
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Dreddout posted:Am I the only one concerned about Luxembourg's aggressive expansion Nothing of value was lost to Luxembourg.
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The saddest thing is that there's actually a lot of open space left in Flanders, it's just that most of it is obscured by a century of people building their houses wherever in an incredibly wasteful fashion e: I just noticed we apparently annexed part of Wallonia to create a corridor to Voeren, I guess that's the politically loaded part. Good, that's our lost clay anyway. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Apr 14, 2018 |
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Lycus posted:It's kinda amazing to me that pre-20th century kingdoms let these dinky microstates continue to exist. Its an awful shame they did. Europe would be far better off without the microstates and their ridiculous residual monarchies. And their tax haven antics.
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Apr 14, 2018 13:47
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can I be Legoland
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Map obviously made by a Parisphile.
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Blut posted:Its an awful shame they did. Europe would be far better off without the microstates and their ridiculous residual monarchies. And their tax haven antics. Yeah, we're much better off only having the tax havens in the big states like the UK and the US
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Torino to Turambar is one of my fave nerd jokes of all time
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Mano posted:Yeah, we're much better off only having the tax havens in the big states like the UK and the US "why bother attempting to fix anything if you can't fix it 100%" is a terrible line of thought. The UK and the US are nowhere near as bad as Luxembourg* for example, on a per capita basis. Or as morally disgusting as Monaco. And besides that, both are also major world powers so rather more secure in their political independence. We might as well focus on the problems we can actually solve, better to make some progress than none at all. Give Luxembourg to Belgium, Monaco to France, Lichtenstein to Austria etc. Nationalize their royal assets, tax their rich, and end their facilitation of tax avoidance. Its not going to solve everything, but it will help make the world a better place. *Luxembourg isn't quite a microstate I'm aware, but its close enough. And it has an outsized negative influence on Europe.
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https://twitter.com/NatGeoMag/status/985219924816736257
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Give those microstates to Kiribati, since they'll be looking for a new place to live soon.
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I like San Marino because they are the sole remaining Italian city state and they were allowed to opt-out of unification because they allowed unificationists to operate freely and welcomed people that the other states had kicked out for supporting a unified Italy. So their tolerance of the movement to unify ensured that they could remain a micro-state. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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I remember a pic about all the mightiest empires and how they collapsed within generations and how this lil republic of San Marino survived with the same regime for millennia
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Mano posted:Yeah, we're much better off only having the tax havens in the big states like the UK and the US You forgot Ireland
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Let's compromise The Empire of Luxembourg-Monaco will conquer Europe
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Incredible shrinking Luxembourg:
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More like “The Petite Duchy of Luxembourg”.
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I'd say Wallonia should at least give the Arlon region back since it's a historically Luxembourgish-speaking area, but of course it's been thoroughly Frenchified now.
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Give Trinidad and Tobago back to Latvia, I say.
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Remember, the reason Luxemburg isn't part of The Netherlands is because Luxemburg didn't want  in their monarchy.
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hahaha please elaborate
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The personal union between Luxembourg and the Netherlands was dissolved due to differences in succession law. Whether or not Luxembourg would have become 'part of' the Netherlands otherwise is anyone's guess.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Incredible shrinking Luxembourg: How much more must Luxembourg give in the name of peace?
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Phlegmish posted:The personal union between Luxembourg and the Netherlands was dissolved due to differences in succession law. Whether or not Luxembourg would have become 'part of' the Netherlands otherwise is anyone's guess. The jacobite (catholic british claim, basically) succession is set to pass to Leichtenstein of all things because of the same thing with the bavarian Wittelsbachs.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Remember, the reason Luxemburg isn't part of The Netherlands is because Luxemburg didn't want That's also why Catholicism exists
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Actually this is the true Luxemburg clay: (In brown - Luxemburgische Lande)
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steinrokkan posted:
I know the HRE had basically no internal coherence, but that is still an intimidating map
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reignonyourparade posted:Wittelsbachs. How the gently caress is this family still around and haven't been Charles IIed into inbreeding hell and collapse?
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Peanut President posted:You forgot Ireland :cryingmrtayto: reignonyourparade posted:The jacobite (catholic british claim, basically) succession is set to pass to Leichtenstein of all things because of the same thing with the bavarian Wittelsbachs. Anyhow, that entire line is based on the marriage of Maria Beatrice marrying her uncle in a union that would have been illegal in Britain, so there's a whole parallel line of claimants descended from Maria Teresa.
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Blut posted:
Liechtenstein is almost already a canton of Switzerland, which directs its language, currency, and much of its foreign policy? It might as well be another Zug except that it's part of the EEA, which probably has some practical impact but the only two things i know are (1) that their cell phone service works without Switzerland's continued loving European roaming fees that everyone else got rid of last year; and (2) they make a bunch of dentures which probably get to avoid import taxes or something? There is no customs control, nor even vestigial abandoned border posts, between Switzerland and Liechtenstein so how the EEA works with respect to that is a mystery to me. Saladman fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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If we're dismantling tax havens, Switzerland isn't long for this world.
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Saladman posted:Liechtenstein is almost already a canton of Switzerland, which directs its language, currency, and much of its foreign policy? It might as well be another Zug except that it's part of the EEA, which probably has some practical impact but the only two things i know are (1) that their cell phone service works without Switzerland's continued loving European roaming fees that everyone else got rid of last year; and (2) they make a bunch of dentures which probably get to avoid import taxes or something? There is no customs control, nor even vestigial abandoned border posts, between Switzerland and Liechtenstein so how the EEA works with respect to that is a mystery to me. Dentures???
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Milo and POTUS posted:Dentures??? Yes. This company is based there and does so much denture production in Liechtenstein, it's over 1/6 of all the dentures sold globally: http://www.ivoclarvivadent.com/ They also produce other dental equipment, but the dentures are major.
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I've always felt bad for poor Vorarlberg, a part of Austria that tried and failed to join Switzerland after WWI. They would have avoided a lot of misfortune that way.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I've always felt bad for poor Vorarlberg, a part of Austria that tried and failed to join Switzerland after WWI. They would have avoided a lot of misfortune that way. Oh wow, if they had it would have completely hemmed in Liechtenstein in a Lesotho/San Marino-esque manner.
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khwarezm posted:Oh wow, if they had it would have completely hemmed in Liechtenstein in a Lesotho/San Marino-esque manner. Probably still wouldn't have stopped the commies from stealing all their wealth producing assets.
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Orange Devil posted:If we're dismantling tax havens, Switzerland isn't long for this world. I mean, Switzerland is also a real country. Calling it a tax haven is like calling the gulf states tax havens. It’s not like Gurnsey or Delaware or the Caymans or whatever. Unless you’re planning on giving Ireland back to the English while you’re at it.
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It's a landlocked country bordered on all sides by countries it is stealing from. What I'm saying is it's a country literally weeks away from mass starvation if it decides to gently caress with us.
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Also wealthy and well connected enough to set up some kind of Bern Airlift though.
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