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Brutulf
Nov 7, 2009
Please help to make some noise about this, any way you can (Twitter, Facebook, whatever): A player on Jiangsu Suning FC, one of the biggest soccer teams in china, has disappeared in Xinjiang and appears to have been detained for "re-education": https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/footballer-04132018162312.html

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Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Good lord what is a Chinese re education camp like , are they just shocking his balls and reminding him that China is Han country ?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
actual belief is less important than just saying the right things so re-education is likely a mix of bribes and threats against him and his family

Blue Star Error
Jun 11, 2001

For this recipie you will need:
Football match (Halftime of), Celebrity Owner (Motivational speaking of), Sherry (Bottle of)
China plans to grow flowers and silkworms on the dark side of the moon

I love "China to..." headlines

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

2030 is the new date in all "China to..." articles

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Baronjutter posted:

2030 is the new date in all "China to..." articles

I thought it was 2025?

EasternBronze
Jul 19, 2011

I registered for the Selective Service! I'm also racist as fuck!
:downsbravo:
Don't forget to ignore me!
Back when I entered University it the year for China was 2012.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
it would be great if more people realized that the main source of china's power is the "by 2020" narrative and if you get rid of that it becomes just another lovely authoritarian country

i have seen more people realizing this since 2015 and some since xi declared himself dictator for life but its still extremely prevalent

this dude puts it pretty well actually

http://stanfordpress.typepad.com/blog/2015/03/chinas-rise-is-over.html

quote:

I often find myself amazed, when teaching, to realize that almost all of the undergraduates in my courses have only known a world in which “the rise of China” is an axiomatic reality. Bill Overholt, now of Harvard University, popularized the phrase with his prophetic book of that title in 1993. By the late 1990s, the rise of China was firmly anchored in the minds of people worldwide as the key to unlock all the complexity of the People’s Republic, the inescapable megatrend that could help us interpret, understand, and predict everything of importance in China, and eventually the world.

It was exceedingly difficult to extricate oneself from the intellectual quicksand of this narrative and the dubious conclusions toward which it pointed (but which the astute Overholt never asserted): China would continue growing rapidly forever, and eventually would surpass the United States in aggregate GDP and comprehensive national power—thus shaking world order to the foundations. The zenith of excitement and conviction concerning China’s rise came in the years immediately following the global financial crisis, which wrought havoc on the global economy precisely the same year that China dazzled the world with its flawless hosting of the 2008 Summer Olympics.

To be sure, few China specialists would have ever stated explicitly that China’s rise would continue forever: not literally forever. And yet it was difficult even for those of us who work daily on China to transcend the excitement intrinsic in the narrative of a rise. To be a China specialist from 2000 to 2015 was exhilarating, because the number of people interested in the PRC was increasing exponentially. It was flattering that so many others—from multiple fields of endeavor—were taking us seriously and asking us to help them understand. At least in our own minds, China specialists were becoming “important” because China itself was soaring in importance. During the 2000s, I often found myself wondering whether I was developing a psychological attachment to the rise of China—no matter whether the end result would be a benign or fearsome China, or something in between. This mindset, I came to realize, made it increasingly difficult for me to question the inevitability of the rise continuing.

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 14, 2018

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Power Khan posted:

"....I don't care, IT HELPED ME!"

:pseudo:

"I had a cold, then I drank this tea, and 4-5 days later I was better!" - People who don't know how colds work.

Jeoh posted:

I thought it was 2025?

Xi's realized that if you keep rolling a date back ~7 years, it still seems attainable.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Blistex posted:

Xi's realized that if you keep rolling a date back ~7 years, it still seems attainable.

china will achieve time travel by 2023

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Jeoh posted:

china will achieve time travel by 2023

Imagine four buzzcuts on the edge of a street

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Jeoh posted:

china will achieve time travel by 2023

they seem to have already mastered it and collectively traveled back to the qing dynasty

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Fojar38 posted:

they seem to have already mastered it and collectively traveled back to the qing dynasty

i wish tbh

Lupin
Feb 21, 2007

quote:

It was the ultimate selfie opportunity and but the tourists on Hangzhou-based wildlife filmmaker Xu Chenghua’s Antarctic excursion had been told to stay well away from the penguins.

Xu, who has been to Antarctica twice, said the tourists were repeatedly reminded of the rules, including no littering and staying at least five metres (16 feet) from animals.

“But some Chinese visitors still behaved badly ... [including] making a lot of noise, dancing in front of the penguins and even shaking hands with them,” he said.

“This is a place that only rich people can afford, but I think their manners are inconsistent [with their wealth],” the filmmaker said.



lol

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Jeoh posted:

i wish tbh

China would be 10x cooler if it actually looked like this

putrid aidsman
Apr 13, 2017

by Lowtax
'I am gay' protests as China bans 'homosexual' content on Weibo

China's Sina Weibo said it would remove "homosexual" content from the popular microblogging platform, prompting a storm of online protests Saturday under the hashtag "I am gay".

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

我也是同喜

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

#imgay

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



Ah, that's why all my gay friends were posting I'm gay the last couple days.

Blistex posted:

"I had a cold, then I drank this tea, and 4-5 days later I was better!" - People who don't know how colds work.

I've been told this so many things about Chinese medicine. It works, it's just slower! Take this and a week later you'll feel fine. :thunk:

hakimashou posted:

China would be 10x cooler if it actually looked like this



:same:

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Blistex posted:

There needs to be a purge in the west of people who support alternative medicine. In 10 years I can see the Cansdian government giving TCM practitioners the same recognized status and legitimacy they have to chiropractors.

People are so loving stupid.
Homeopathy is still a valid profession and thought of as medicine in so many places. If you speak out, you're just part of the problem!!!
Really, out of everything that bugged me on a regular basis in China, it was the group-think about insane TCM ideas and the "advice" that came with it. When someone tells you that the eyes are directly connected to liver, and that's why air pollution and crying are bad for the liver, giving you disease, then there comes a point where you can no longer speak because it's useless. They don't want to know, they don't care. "I heard that" or "they say that" is their evidence and you can rightly shut up because "you are not a doctor."

It was sad and funny to see how much disbelief and upset people would have telling them that antibiotics will not cure their fever and flu. Like, who can actually know what an antibiotic is used for? That's mysterious information. Doctors and pharmacists with fake degrees wouldn't just give you an antibiotic for no reason!

Warbadger posted:

It's tempting to just copy & paste the active ingredient list with the common names in parenthesis (THIS IS TYLENOL) and see what happens.
"It really stopped my mucous and sneezing!"
"That's because the antihistamines in it."
"No, I had a fever, and it worked."
"That's the fever-reducer."
"Chinese medicine is better than the poison in the supermarkets here!"
"Everyone's always getting sick there, way more than anywhere I've ever lived an.."
"You're racist!!!"

If there weren't those headlines, then r/futurology and popular science magazines and websites would have absolutely nothing to get readership.


hakimashou posted:

China would be 10x cooler if it actually looked like this


This just proves how Western influence has corrupted the calm and pastoral lives of the Chinese populace. All the problems they face now are due to Westernization. There should be a shift back to China-only brands and food. Sandwiches and pizza are not as healthy as fried noodles for every meal.

On a real note: I don't like that they listed Taco Bell there. There's like 2-3 in the entire country last time I was there, and Taco Bell is honestly one of the only fast foods that I am 100% okay with eating when I am in the mood. If I could get a 7-layer Burrito a couple times a month, I think I would have been more stoked on life.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


TB is on there because they're expanding. There's only the one in Shanghai now but they're planning to make a huge push and open like 300 of them in the next few years.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
Plus that poster is branding art for YumChina. Yum owns Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER


Grand Fromage posted:

TB is on there because they're expanding. There's only the one in Shanghai now but they're planning to make a huge push and open like 300 of them in the next few years.

I feel for Taco Bell. I mean they can never initialize their name because it sounds like tuberculosis

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LOL, of course silk worms. Oh no, gravity is lower so it makes it harder to grow plants while ISS doing science with no fanfare has zero G grows since inception and it turns out gravity means gently caress all to plants.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/121207-plants-grow-space-station-science/

Sealed self sustaining terrarium has also been a thing since forever. There are plenty of shake your own. So much Chinese not-science. Cold war prestige projects has more science than this including the Star Wars program.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Fojar38 posted:

it would be great if more people realized that the main source of china's power is the "by 2020" narrative and if you get rid of that it becomes just another lovely authoritarian country

i have seen more people realizing this since 2015 and some since xi declared himself dictator for life but its still extremely prevalent

this dude puts it pretty well actually

http://stanfordpress.typepad.com/blog/2015/03/chinas-rise-is-over.html

i like how that guy points out that people think it's gonna just level off and everything will be fine...but they are the ones who have no loving idea why actually learned economists are worried about the future

then he just leaves the logical consequence of that unsaid

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Breaking TCM News!

My wife never brings this kind of stuff up because she is embarrassed, but since we have a little guy (8 months now) she did a little, "Why are Chinese people so stupid?" rant.

Apparently a new mother was forced to do the "sitting the month" and was confined to her room. The weather was consistently above 30°c, all of the doors and windows were sealed shut, no fans or AC were allowed, and she was made to wear insulated pyjamas and lay in a bed with heavy winter covers on it. As you can guess she was happy to get through that ordeal, but understood that it was for the best, and that she and her new baby's health benefited greatly from her mother's care and wisdom.

Just kidding. The mom died of organ failure brought on by dehydration and extreme overheating.

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
They gotta pump these numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.


Grand Fromage posted:

TB is on there because they're expanding. There's only the one in Shanghai now but they're planning to make a huge push and open like 300 of them in the next few years.
They should. As an EXPAT, sometimes I want that flavor when generally living without it. I went to a South American restaurant in SZ with my friend and it was good, but the cost made it so it was a one-and-done thing with those itty-bitty portions. If you're asking me to pay like $11 USD for burrito and $8 for nachos, I need to go home full.
I remember posting that article about TB in Shanghai and how people thought the food was weird, so I wondered much they will screw with the recipes and flavors by the time they get out of prototyping. I would still go if there was one near me in China.

Wizchine posted:

Plus that poster is branding art for YumChina. Yum owns Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut
I know, I was just taking the nationalistic approach a Mainlander might have when seeing that painting. It's strange, and if it were not visibly part of a Yum Corp report, I would say it was some artist's attempt at disparaging how Western brands are infiltrating every part of China.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Shanghai TB is apparently real popular now, people are into it.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
We're still waiting on Taco Bell to come to NZ. Mexican food here is kinda crap, but it's expensive crap. Bring on the cheap stuff!

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

WarpedNaba posted:

We're still waiting on Taco Bell to come to NZ. Mexican food here is kinda crap, but it's expensive crap. Bring on the cheap stuff!

Taco Bell is Mexican is the same sense that Pizza Hut is Italian. "Cheap" is too kind a word here.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Even so, we don't have it. And every now and again I crave it.

Never should've gone to Hawaii.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Taco Bell is entirely its own thing, unconnected from Mexican food, but it is good and when you want TB nothing else will do.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"


Obviously the person is made up, but it made me think of this delightful thread.

Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Apr 15, 2018

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Baronjutter posted:


Obviously the person is made up, but it made me think of this delightful thread.

Gatbans isn't all that crazy of an English name for a person in Mainland China, tbh

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Wizchine posted:

Plus that poster is branding art for YumChina. Yum owns Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut

And, I didn’t know until recently, XiaoFeiYang

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Blistex posted:

Just kidding. The mom died of organ failure brought on by dehydration and extreme overheating.

I was not disappointed.

WarpedNaba posted:

We're still waiting on Taco Bell to come to NZ. Mexican food here is kinda crap, but it's expensive crap. Bring on the cheap stuff!

I hope you don't still go to KFC here, holy crap it's trash on every level for years. I rather skip a meal than eat that although with the speed of service you end up skipping a meal.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
It's the closest burger place to here, although on the rare occasions I buy lunch, I usually just spring for sushi. It's cheaper and faster.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Grand Fromage posted:

Ah, that's why all my gay friends were posting I'm gay the last couple days.

did you post sixty thousand times

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

WarpedNaba posted:

We're still waiting on Taco Bell to come to NZ. Mexican food here is kinda crap, but it's expensive crap. Bring on the cheap stuff!

Just kidnap some mexicans and force them to construct a taqueria.

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Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Look deep into your heart, you know Kiwi Taco Bell will be overpriced poo poo, just like it was before Yum dumped it out of Australia

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