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I remember when it was a  conspiracy to say that the US had hundreds of troops in Syria. Now they're just there, and there to stay.
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Apr 15, 2018 21:32
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considering theyre there now as a preventative measure to stop turkey from crushing the pkk, fine with me
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Apr 15, 2018 21:33
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:considering theyre there now as a preventative measure to stop turkey from crushing the pkk, fine with me cant tell if sarcasm
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Apr 15, 2018 21:34
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im not really sure WHY the us still cares about defending the pkk though, aside for trying to look like theyre not running. ISIS is dead and pkk are commies who have no real loyalty to the US aside for how many guns we can give them.
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Apr 15, 2018 21:34
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ypg, pkk, whatever
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Apr 15, 2018 21:35
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im not really sure WHY the us still cares about defending the pkk though, aside for trying to look like theyre not running. ISIS is dead and pkk are commies who have no real loyalty to the US aside for how many guns we can give them. Because Trump really, really does not like being told by Erdogan he has to do something or else.
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Apr 15, 2018 21:37
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UK, US, and France absolutely want to topple Assad, how could you possibly think that US forces are there to defend the YPG? I mean, I'm glad the YPG has weapons and has been relatively successful, but the West doesn't actually give a poo poo about them (see: NATO member Turkey murdering them without a peep from the West)
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Apr 15, 2018 21:39
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if the us, france and uk want to topple assad they sure arent trying very hard
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Apr 15, 2018 21:41
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:if the us, france and uk want to topple assad they sure arent trying very hard It's the Jeb! of foreign policy
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Apr 15, 2018 21:41
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having 2000 troops sitting twiddling their thumbs in kurdish territory and cruise bombing 4 empty buildings a week after trump tried to withdraw everyone out of syria is some weak regime change, but maybe bush spoiled me
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Apr 15, 2018 21:42
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while Turkey rampages through the north with zero opposition
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Apr 15, 2018 21:47
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yes because the US was definitely happy with that 
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Apr 15, 2018 21:49
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cnn wants more bombs https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/15/opinions/presidential-weekly-briefing-syria-assessment-vinograd/index.html
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Apr 15, 2018 21:52
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:having 2000 troops sitting twiddling their thumbs in kurdish territory and cruise bombing 4 empty buildings a week after trump tried to withdraw everyone out of syria is some weak regime change, but maybe bush spoiled me
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Apr 15, 2018 22:00
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comedyblissoption posted:cnn wants more bombs can I suggest a few targets?
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Apr 15, 2018 22:01
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comedyblissoption posted:russia may be the main reason that syria hasn't turned into a libyan 'humanitarian intervention' spell out how Syria is doing well because of Russian interventions?
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Apr 15, 2018 22:03
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im not really sure WHY the us still cares about defending the pkk though, aside for trying to look like theyre not running. ISIS is dead and pkk are commies who have no real loyalty to the US aside for how many guns we can give them. according to sputnik, the us is helping the pkk in order to secure their natural resources. untrustworthy source, but the most logical reason i've heard for why trump is helping his ideological opposite.
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Apr 15, 2018 22:20
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comedyblissoption posted:russia may be the main reason that syria hasn't turned into a libyan 'humanitarian intervention' the internet research agency has logged on
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Apr 15, 2018 22:27
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There is also a whole generation of military officers who spent time in Iraq with the Kurds being the only people not actively hunting them and they might appreciate that. It seems like foreign policy is being strongly dictated by the military generals at this moment.
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Apr 15, 2018 22:28
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LinYutang posted:the internet research agency has logged on what a dumb post
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Apr 15, 2018 22:29
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Putin carpet bombing a Middle Eastern country to "fight terror" is extremely good, because
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Apr 15, 2018 22:32
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Look up what carpet bombing means.
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Apr 15, 2018 22:33
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Look up what carpet bombing means. Indiscriminate saturation bombing, which they are doing?
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Apr 15, 2018 22:35
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Bip Roberts posted:Indiscriminate saturation bombing, which they are doing? They aren't dropping enough bombs to do saturation bombing. The Russians are using a lot of dumb munitions, but they're not just blanketing entire areas with explosives. If the Russians were carpet bombing anything you'd know it.
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Apr 15, 2018 22:38
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I guess sometimes they aim for the hospitals
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Apr 15, 2018 22:38
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LinYutang posted:Putin carpet bombing a Middle Eastern country to "fight terror" is extremely good, because otoh america bombing a middle eastern country to "fight terror" is extremely good, because
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Apr 15, 2018 22:39
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:otoh america bombing a middle eastern country to "fight terror" is extremely good, because whoa the posters in this thread with this popular opinion are super owned
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Apr 15, 2018 22:40
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:otoh america bombing a middle eastern country to "fight terror" is extremely good, because you'd think the same people who wail about foreign meddling would show consistency!
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Apr 15, 2018 22:40
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LinYutang posted:you'd think the same people who wail about foreign meddling would show consistency! LinYutang posted:Bomb more of Assad's stuff 👌👌👌👌
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Apr 15, 2018 22:41
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US has no real attachment to the Kurds long-term. They don't really give a poo poo about their political project or domestic politics, so long as they 1) continue to fight remnants of ISIS 2) get along with each other and keep the oil flowing 3) stand in the way of a Iranian-Hezbollah corridor. Only reason the Turks haven't rolled in tanks throughout the rest of Rojava is because US troops are there. As for intervening against Assad earlier and more decisive - it probably would have led to a hapless government backed by the West and led by Syrian expat moderates who'd lose control of governance to the Islamist forces. Probably would fracture Syria into ISIS, moderate, Islamist/turkish-backed forces, and Kurds and the situation would still be a giant clusterfuck. KaptainKrunk has issued a correction as of 22:44 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Apr 15, 2018 22:42
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i support western intervention against assad 😎
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Apr 15, 2018 22:42
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LinYutang posted:i support western intervention against assad 😎 you'd think the same people who wail about foreign meddling would show consistency!
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Apr 15, 2018 22:44
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LinYutang posted:i support western intervention against assad 😎 sir, this is not the bad opinions thread
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Apr 15, 2018 22:44
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ISIS still controls a sliver of territory along the Iraqi border and the Euphrates, which the YPG could have easily taken months ago. It's almost as if they're being left alone to maintain the illusion of an unfinished American mission
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Apr 15, 2018 22:45
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:you'd think the same people who wail about foreign meddling would show consistency! fighting fascist authoritarians like Assad is good and consistent, actually
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Apr 15, 2018 22:46
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Fight fasces with fasces
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Apr 15, 2018 22:48
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LinYutang posted:fighting fascist authoritarians like Assad is good and consistent, actually it must be weird to be a genuine neocon after being so thoroughly discredited by every event of the last 20 years
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Apr 15, 2018 22:49
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LinYutang posted:fighting fascist authoritarians like Assad is good and consistent, actually How is Assad fascist?
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:it must be weird to be a genuine neocon after being so thoroughly discredited by every event of the last 20 years Even if that were the case, it's not weirder than "leftists" supporting the fascists against communist guerrillas
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