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SteelMentor posted:At most, a squad will get 4-5 Poxwalkers back, and usually lose more than that number in the process. I'd put money that they play, but probably not as competitively as they think. Most of these people are probably those that bought into this army to wreck causal 40k night at their lgs (against people who probably brought more casual lists anyway), and are now whining that they have to find a new army/play fair. I've always gotten the feeling from other games that the actual tournament players tend to expect these changes and move on, rather than bemoan the fact that their bandwagon list got nerfed.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:24
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Mef989 posted:I just chalk this up to being what happens when you buy into an army based on abusing an interaction rather than rule of cool. I prefer to play what I enjoy and get more from learning a few armies well rather than switching to the new flavor of the month. I'll argue that the army built on an ever increasing zombie horde was extremely cool.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:24
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Still trying to fathom the idea of having enough time to buy, assemble, paint, and then ragequit an army. I haven't painted in two weeks because of work. 
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Apr 17, 2018 19:26
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They typically don't do the third part. At least, not to a level anyone above a preschooler would be proud of.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:27
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Artum posted:I'll argue that the army built on an ever increasing zombie horde was extremely cool. It totally is, I'll give you that. But I'd guess the people crying the loudest didn't build it for that reason. My question is though (since I don't actually know DG that well), are poxwalkers actually unusable now e.g. conscripts, or just toned down?
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Apr 17, 2018 19:28
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SteelMentor posted:They typically don't do the third part. At least, not to a level anyone above a preschooler would be proud of. Fair point, although the Power of Dip is strong.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:30
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Still trying to fathom the idea of having enough time to buy, assemble, paint, and then ragequit an army. I've found my local GW store's escalation league every month really motivates me to paint [250 points in the two days before league day]
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Apr 17, 2018 19:31
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Mef989 posted:It totally is, I'll give you that. But I'd guess the people crying the loudest didn't build it for that reason. My question is though (since I don't actually know DG that well), are poxwalkers actually unusable now e.g. conscripts, or just toned down? They lost a maybe sometimes cool bonus. They're still a shockingly cost-effective tarpit king.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:31
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Fair point, although the Power of Dip is strong. I was staggered when I found out how well that stuff actually works, I was under the impression they were just dunking poo poo in nuln oil equivalents.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:32
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Lol at people ragequitting Nurgle's perfect round bois. Guess ill be able pick stuff up on the cheap now.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:34
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My plan for my next army is likely Salamanders. My question is, would it be a mistake to not field Tactical Marines? I assume they're perfect for the Chapter Tactic, since I can throw a bunch of special and heavy weapons into 5-man tactical squads and maximize the effectiveness of re-rolls. But I don't have enough experience to know if what I'm thinking actually translates well to the game.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:34
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How could such angry people own such happy boys
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Apr 17, 2018 19:35
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The Sex Cannon posted:That's a good idea! You could set up a voice mail box and have us leave salty messages for replay on the pod. God all these ninnys just need to buy a new army like they did with DG.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:36
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Neurolimal posted:Out of curiosity, are there any big unit leader roles in chaos this Khornish lass could fill? Where is this from?  just turns up some Catholic school in Chicago that closed.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:36
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Artum posted:I was staggered when I found out how well that stuff actually works, I was under the impression they were just dunking poo poo in nuln oil equivalents. Bad dipping is just as bad as bad painting. On a ten point scale of painted models, bad dipping I'd probably in the 0-1 range. Good dipping probably caps out at a 7 or so. I am hoping to accomplish that with my 120 Bloodblooders for AoS.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:37
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Schadenboner posted:Where is this from? Heresy Lab, a kickstarter that ended recently but is still allowing buy-ins: http://www.heresylab.com
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Apr 17, 2018 19:38
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SteelMentor posted:They lost a maybe sometimes cool bonus. They're still a shockingly cost-effective tarpit king. Is there a place in a list for cultists that also has poxwalkers? I don't see as much talk about cultists and plaguebearers and assume poxwalkers are the best. But I haven't done much theory or played at all yet.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:44
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Artum posted:I was staggered when I found out how well that stuff actually works, I was under the impression they were just dunking poo poo in nuln oil equivalents. Yeah the results are pretty awesome, and I've seen a bunch of techniques that take it up to an even higher level.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:45
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The poxwalker thing was legitimately overpowered in the right shell and I’m glad it’s dead (without even being made useless for “normal” games - genuinely good job GW!). People whining about it are sad that they can no longer play something overpowered while still telling themselves that its totally fair. Long years of reading TCG forums suggests that this particular confluence of circumstances produces the purest kind of triple distilled salt when its taken away.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:01
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goodness posted:Is there a place in a list for cultists that also has poxwalkers? I don't see as much talk about cultists and plaguebearers and assume poxwalkers are the best. But I haven't done much theory or played at all yet. Cultists aren't much cheaper for access to guns and they take morale tests, so they're a lot easier to clean out. The big advantage of poxwalkers is needing to kill every model to get rid of the unit. Plaguebearers seem ok, but they're not Death Guard, so you need to summon them or use detachment shenanigans to get them without breaking the legion bonus.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:07
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Should I start looking for deals on Death Guard to fill out my army thanks to the salt? I'm good on plague marines and poxwalkers but could use basically anything else.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:15
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One_Wing posted:People whining about it are sad that they can no longer play something overpowered while still telling themselves that its totally fair. Long years of reading TCG forums suggests that this particular confluence of circumstances produces the purest kind of triple distilled salt when its taken away. My first though when I started seeing all of these ragequit sales was the MtG Splinter Twin ban in modern. Those were some extra salty tears. I even played UR Twin at the time, but like a normal person shrugged and moved on to other decks. chutche2 posted:Should I start looking for deals on Death Guard to fill out my army thanks to the salt? I'm good on plague marines and poxwalkers but could use basically anything else. Couple of the lots I've seen had a decent amount of other units, though Plague Marines and Poxwalkers were definitely top. Most people seem to think that they are going to be able to sell the army as a lot though.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:24
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ro5s posted:Cultists aren't much cheaper for access to guns and they take morale tests, so they're a lot easier to clean out. The big advantage of poxwalkers is needing to kill every model to get rid of the unit. But isn't there a chaos thing that allows cultists to fire 2x? Seems like cheaper + guns matters a lot when looking at the volume of dice being rolled.
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It’s worth mentioning if you want some cheap, modular and easy to store terrain, I picked up the Moon Base Klaisus Realm of Battle last year, and it’s really good considering it’s £50. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Realm-Of-Battle-Moon-Base-Klaisus-2017 Going to get some Necron terrain and use the other side of the board in the future hopefully.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:But isn't there a chaos thing that allows cultists to fire 2x? Seems like cheaper + guns matters a lot when looking at the volume of dice being rolled. I've no idea about Chaos, I've not got that codex, it's not an option for pure Death Guard though.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:But isn't there a chaos thing that allows cultists to fire 2x? Seems like cheaper + guns matters a lot when looking at the volume of dice being rolled. Endless Cacophony, but that works for any slaanesh marked unit.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:It’s worth mentioning if you want some cheap, modular and easy to store terrain, I picked up the Moon Base Klaisus Realm of Battle last year, and it’s really good considering it’s £50. I hate these things. You're better off just buying individual sets of the ruins. The thing isn't even a full 4 x 6.
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Anyone have recommendations for purple paint rattlecans? I've just accepted all my custodes will end up purple eventually so I figure I can save time and a bit of cash just using a decent spray for the base.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:48
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S.J. posted:I hate these things. You're better off just buying individual sets of the ruins. The thing isn't even a full 4 x 6. I think what you get relative to it’s cost is really very good - an Imperial Sector Realm of Battle board without any buildings runs for £200, and the slight size reduction compared to the standard size really isn’t noticeable. Plus it’s easy to store it in its box and chuck it in my car and take it over a friends place.
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Honestly my favorite part of the FAQ so far has been people trying to figure out loopholes in the deepstriking rules like they're attorneys trying to find any minutia in the rules that will let them do what they want.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:I think what you get relative to it’s cost is really very good - an Imperial Sector Realm of Battle board without any buildings runs for £200, and the slight size reduction compared to the standard size really isn’t noticeable. Plus it’s easy to store it in its box and chuck it in my car and take it over a friends place. I mean, the board doesn't cover a standard 6x4 gaming table which is inherently pretty noticeable. It's a great buy for people new to the hobby but for those of us that like to play 2000pt games it doesn't seem particularly appropriate.
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LifeLynx posted:Honestly my favorite part of the FAQ so far has been people trying to figure out loopholes in the deepstriking rules like they're attorneys trying to find any minutia in the rules that will let them do what they want. Do the new rules also limit DS like effects such as Gate of Infinity?
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Mef989 posted:Do the new rules also limit DS like effects such as Gate of Infinity? Current consensus seems to be that any stratagem that affects a unit already deployed on the board is kosher. If the DS requires you stash them in reserves instead of deployment then it's affected.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Still trying to fathom the idea of having enough time to buy, assemble, paint, and then ragequit an army. I haven't painted in two years because of babies How are Ad Mech with no Skitarii? I always try to go as low a model count as possible due to the aforementioned lack of painting time, so was thinking of just using Katephron destroyers for my troops.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:I think what you get relative to it’s cost is really very good - an Imperial Sector Realm of Battle board without any buildings runs for £200, and the slight size reduction compared to the standard size really isn’t noticeable. Plus it’s easy to store it in its box and chuck it in my car and take it over a friends place. For $80 you get a mat that's not standard sized, and nowhere near enough terrain to fill it. I agree the realm of battle boards are expensive and fairly big, but you can get a neoprene mat for between $60 and $75 (unfortunately the FLG sale ended yesterday where they were $56), which actually covers the full size of the board, and then you can supplement with either that terrain ($30 buys you the same amount of stuff as in the moon base box) or other ruins/mdf terrain/sector mechanicus/whatever. I strongly reccomend MDF shipping containers, they're a good size for LOS blocking and are appropriate on any battlefield.
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Lungboy posted:I haven't painted in two years because of babies Children are the worst.
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TheBigAristotle posted:I'm looking for an option that's cheaper than £16 on forgeworld for an Imperial Fists transfer sheet. Just buy it, the forgeworld transfers are pretty awesome.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Children are the worst. They need juice occasionally, which is super annoying since that money could go to new releases.
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PierreTheMime posted:They need juice occasionally, which is super annoying since that money could go to new releases. Juice is bad for their teeth. Really those deadbeat parents are doing them a favor
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