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DrNutt posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.b3de2ebd7d8b This entire saga is loving terrible and the people that are STILL defending them are disgusting. Take a gander at line number 2 of this terrible loving song by this couples favorite band. https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Nahko-and-Medicine-for-the-People/Mr-Washington
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When one of their kids had their picture taken hugging a cop, I think I remember hearing that their parents were extremely exploitative, but I don't recall anything conclusive.
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https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/984106284617052160 https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/984107306374676482 https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/984114720914341890 Red and Black fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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anthonypants posted:When one of their kids had their picture taken hugging a cop, I think I remember hearing that their parents were extremely exploitative, but I don't recall anything conclusive. Looking into it reveals a lot of bizarre poo poo. It's like they both wanted to be Sandra Bullock from The Blindside, but they were horrible rage monsters who flipped out over every little thing and abused the poo poo out of their adopted children. There's a lot of weird stuff relating to the racial aspect too, like dragging their kids to Ferguson to hug it out with the cop and pushing an All Lives Matter attitude.
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ElCondemn posted:Doesn’t matter at all, the guy could have been a child murderer but the cops didn’t know poo poo. They murdered a guy and now the media is justifying it for them. gently caress the police. pump your breaks there daddy. i'm curious if his initial charge and imprisonment were a result of some trumped up bullshit that led him down a trail of white nationalist survival in prison. wouldn't put it past ppb to hit a working poor white guy with a big sentence that he can't fight down due to not being able to afford a good lawyer.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:pump your breaks there daddy. i'm curious if his initial charge and imprisonment were a result of some trumped up bullshit that led him down a trail of white nationalist survival in prison. wouldn't put it past ppb to hit a working poor white guy with a big sentence that he can't fight down due to not being able to afford a good lawyer. Yeah once you get into the prison-industrial complex, even for a short period of time, it's very easy to fall into a downward spiral as opportunities vanish after you get back out. Which can lead to other crimes that put you in prison for even longer. At which point it makes sense to fall in with a gangs as humans seek groups both for protection from other groups and for social interactions. Then once you're sucked in; the groupthink takes over and well that's ballgame This is what happens when prisons are ran as profit industries. Since that incentivizes imprisoning people and not on rehabilitation: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29322202.html
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My next door neighbors were / are a bunch of kids adopted by a white lady and she was a pretty awful parent and the majority of them turned out to be big messes.
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The end result of a bunch of factories in residential Portland throwing heavy metals into the air: https://twitter.com/robwdavis/status/984107892541341696
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anthonypants posted:The end result of a bunch of factories in residential Portland throwing heavy metals into the air: https://twitter.com/robwdavis/status/984107892541341696 Was this about the glass factories in residential areas or something else? Either way, this just feels like it’s just going to encourage people to take action themselves. They’re left with nothing else.
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It's a long but worthwhile read: The Seattle Times just torched Microsoft for their lovely effort in treating women: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/i-felt-so-alone-what-women-at-microsoft-face-and-why-many-leave/
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seiferguy posted:It's a long but worthwhile read: The Seattle Times just torched Microsoft for their lovely effort in treating women: It always is shocking to me how much the private sector is allowed to bully employees into silence, everything about me except my SSN and the like are public record. It's kinda scary.
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I, for one, am shocked to learn that the company run by the guy who told women not to ask for a raise, but to instead "have faith" in the system, or to instead believe in "good karma", directly to a bunch of women, during a women in tech conference, would have an atmosphere of mistreating women.
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Instead of a woman of color, why not a white one? http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/04/steve_duin_better_yet_in_counc.html When I read this it struck me as annoyingly tone deaf. But I read through a second time and this really feels like the Felicia Williams is trying to tap into white fragility as a winning campaign tactic.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:34
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xrunner posted:Instead of a woman of color, why not a white one?
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Thanatosian posted:I mean... she sounds like a Republican. Is she supposed to be a Democrat? If you read the article and look into some of her other positions, she doesn't seem too far from Ted Wheeler, who is ostensibly a democrat. But she says she wants to invite the conservative vote - and since her other conservative positions (more police/camping crackdown) are unfortunately popular among many local democrats, the only real conservative bona fide I see is the dog whistle.
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Apr 13, 2018 17:31
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xrunner posted:If you read the article and look into some of her other positions, she doesn't seem too far from Ted Wheeler, who is ostensibly a democrat. But she says she wants to invite the conservative vote - and since her other conservative positions (more police/camping crackdown) are unfortunately popular among many local democrats, the only real conservative bona fide I see is the dog whistle. Is the Downtown Neighborhood Association not a group of NIMBYs or Chamber of Commerce types?
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Thanatosian posted:Is the Downtown Neighborhood Association not a group of NIMBYs or Chamber of Commerce types? They are but I'm unclear on your point - I wasn't considering voting for her regardless. I guess I'm more interested in the candidate and the local media blowing hard on their dog whistle. That seems desperate but potentially effective for her.
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xrunner posted:They are but I'm unclear on your point - I wasn't considering voting for her regardless. I guess I'm more interested in the candidate and the local media blowing hard on their dog whistle. That seems desperate but potentially effective for her. If you're in charge of a Republican organization, my feeling is that it rubs off.
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DrNutt posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.b3de2ebd7d8b unfortunately the solution to a 99% of a persons CPS problems is to move to a different county or state and because even the washington state departments barely work together and the different state departments don't work together pretty much at all a lot of people like them get lost in the mix. Couple that with washington state's placement problem ( There are almost NO foster homes at loving all, seriously they're placing kids with school loving nurses that they convince after those nurses call in poo poo on kids) and you're going to end up with terrible poo poo like that. Social workers get hosed hard in washington state. A lot of them are just terrible at their job, they want to take kids away more than they want to be a social worker and the people supervising them are often terrible people who've been in the system for so long they're so loving jaded and don't give a poo poo. They're paid poo poo and overworked to the point where by law CPS workers are only supposed to have something like 16 or 19 cases total, but regularly end up with 40+ its crazy. Couple that with super high turn over and they hire pretty much anyone. I heard of a CPS worker that was behind, had like 100 cases that were never closed because he didn't know how to type on a computer. Also the whole system of who gets in trouble and who doesn't with CPS can be super corrupt like people in political or sensitive positions get special treatment. On top of all that CPS is sworn to secrecy or some poo poo about specifics so like, anyone can say anything about CPS, meanwhile they can't be like "Well you're saying we took your kids for no reason, but the kids were telling us about how you were raping them every night after giving them ambien and when we tested them we found ambien in their system and they aren't prescribed it soooo" (this is just an example, but let your mind take that where you want it). Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Apr 14, 2018 |
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If it’s any consolation, Oregon CPS is also so lacking placements they’re using hotels for foster kids, and paying workers overtime to supervise them overnight; developmentally and emotionally unsupportive AND atrociously expensive, it’s a win-win!
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Is this basically related to underfunding or does there need to be a systemic shift in how we address child abuse/neglect, and if the latter, what kind of changes need to be made?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Is this basically related to underfunding or does there need to be a systemic shift in how we address child abuse/neglect, and if the latter, what kind of changes need to be made? The main drive as far as I know is punishment*, as in "punish bad parents" and not "provide healthy things for kids". *Just like most of America.
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FRINGE posted:The main drive as far as I know is punishment*, as in "punish bad parents" and not "provide healthy things for kids". I don’t know about Washington, but Oregon does tend to try and work with parents and treat safety threats as an issue of mental health and addiction, scant resources for food, housing, etc, and generally from a social welfare perspective, the biggest issue (from my admittedly biased perspective) relates a lot to funding, as well as terrible planning and management from the agency leadership; there was virtually no expansion of DHS as the population grew, either in staffing or additional resources, so the little problems kept on piling up until things were at a boiling point, and now getting the money to try and fix things from the legislature has proven challenging now that the crisis has hit because nobody trusts the agency (not to mention the legislature is pretty damned tight-fisted about raising revenue regardless). What you wind up with is chronically understaffed and overburdened workers, mental health and treatment agencies who are similarly lacking thanks to the joys of the American healthcare system, underpaid foster parents (rates were dropped about a decade ago, and haven’t been increased until this year, albeit by a minute amount), a huge decrease in available placements as foster parents and providers get tired of dealing with this poo poo and drop out, etc. I tend to also get frustrated the public doesn’t get more involved, everyone loves to complain when kids lack foster homes while virtually nobody steps up to be one, but I absolutely blame DHS for this as well, there’s no outreach or communication whatsoever, everything put out is a boilerplate bland reassurance statement that DHS is fixing everything and there’s no cause for concern. Having said all that, it’s pretty telling that after getting put on blast by the Secretary of State’s office for messing everything up, DHS got some emergency funding, and are now taking delightful action steps like paying a consultant $200,000 to come up with a miracle plan to turn everything around, rather than, I don’t know, hiring people, recruiting (or adequately paying) foster parents, or literally anything other than creating another cushy do-nothing advisory role for some agency director’s nephew or college buddy, so I’m not holding out hope for massive change. All of that directly deals with Oregon DHS’ angle, there is also the massive influence of the dilapidated shanty that is America’s healthcare system, especially the mental health system, but that expands a bit beyond both the scope of my knowledge and the foster care system, child welfare just gets to be one more shining example of how badly that all works.
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Thaddius the Large posted:I don’t know about Washington, but Oregon does tend to try and work with parents and treat safety threats as an issue of mental health and addiction, scant resources for food, housing, etc, and generally from a social welfare perspective, the biggest issue (from my admittedly biased perspective) relates a lot to funding, as well as terrible planning and management from the agency leadership; there was virtually no expansion of DHS as the population grew, either in staffing or additional resources, so the little problems kept on piling up until things were at a boiling point, and now getting the money to try and fix things from the legislature has proven challenging now that the crisis has hit because nobody trusts the agency (not to mention the legislature is pretty damned tight-fisted about raising revenue regardless). What you wind up with is chronically understaffed and overburdened workers, mental health and treatment agencies who are similarly lacking thanks to the joys of the American healthcare system, underpaid foster parents (rates were dropped about a decade ago, and haven’t been increased until this year, albeit by a minute amount), a huge decrease in available placements as foster parents and providers get tired of dealing with this poo poo and drop out, etc. I tend to also get frustrated the public doesn’t get more involved, everyone loves to complain when kids lack foster homes while virtually nobody steps up to be one, but I absolutely blame DHS for this as well, there’s no outreach or communication whatsoever, everything put out is a boilerplate bland reassurance statement that DHS is fixing everything and there’s no cause for concern. Oregon state agencies.txt
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Thaddius the Large posted:If it’s any consolation, Oregon CPS is also so lacking placements they’re using hotels for foster kids, and paying workers overtime to supervise them overnight; developmentally and emotionally unsupportive AND atrociously expensive, it’s a win-win! WA has been doing this also. Its pretty loving poo poo. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Is this basically related to underfunding or does there need to be a systemic shift in how we address child abuse/neglect, and if the latter, what kind of changes need to be made? Its probably both. Part of the problem is that they can't keep anyone who wants to be a social worker employed. A big part of that is hiring people who are unqualified or because everyone who is qualified leaves for better paying jobs elsewhere, like at hospitals or whatever. CPS workers in WA state can spend a pretty large chunk of change on each of their cases to help pay for rent, power bills, clothes, food, gas, but very few do because they aren't trained or have no interest in helping people. They can access literally thousands of dollars if they talk to their supervisor and make a compelling case, and even more if they take it up a step higher and talk to their supervisor's supervisor. Because of the high case load they get burnt out really quick and just stop giving a gently caress. Or their supervisor is a literally poo poo that will tell them to take almost every case to court even if there is no evidence of any abuse. On top of that supervisors are not paid any more than social workers and aren't protected by what little protections the terrible union offers, so the only incentive for being a supervisor is you want to be a shithead manager. Because of the way state agencies work and raises aren't based on performance and you pretty much can't be fired unless you directly lead to someone's death or aren't doing your job at all a lot of people just hang out in a position where they're burnt out and no longer give a gently caress and their training is from decades ago and no longer applies to the programs offered by DSHS today. Seriously think about that they had to hire someone who was so unqualified they didn't know how to type on a computer, how that person got hundreds of cases behind until anyone found out that the reason they couldn't close their cases was all that stuff is done on computers and they didn't know how to use the loving thing. And the person still didn't lose their job. A big chunk of the high turnover problem is that WA state has a program that will pay for your masters of social work if you work a certain number of years for the state or you have to pay it back. So a lot of really driven actually care about people social workers use that program to get their masters degree go and work at the state for a year or two then find out that they can get a job that pays enough to pay off their loan and also take care of their families so they leave. A lot of those social workers also want to get their license so they can go on to the even better paying social work jobs like counseling or whatever and a lot of places offer the things to help them get that while the state offers almost nothing and what little the state does offer the workers kind of have to fight over it. Like they might have one spot for the required continued education part of the LSW. So a lot of the really good, well trained social workers move on to other poo poo meanwhile all the lovely, maybe they have an associates degree or whatever social workers just stay in the job because they can and they can't really get work elsewhere or don't even really care to. Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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I worked on the IT side of a nation wide non profit foster consulting agency and uhh that all sounds incredibly accurate. Even there everyone was super loving jaded mean and depressed and I quit the job in 6 months because i've got fairly fragile mental health and kept thinking about stepping in front of a loving bus. The social workers that worked for us said that our company was the best place to work for because the case load was so much smaller and we specifically tended to focus on LGBT and teenagers..
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anthonypants posted:This doesn't seem real. But it's The Stranger, so. The Stranger posted:Today, Jordan estimates he's trained 17 electronic-device-sniffing dogs with names like URL (pronounced "Earl"), Cache, and Browser.
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anthonypants posted:This doesn't seem real. But it's The Stranger, so. I mean, the title isn't really accurate but I'm not sure why flash drives having a unique scent is that unbelievable. I wonder if they'll lose their effectiveness the more IoT devices people have around their house though.
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FRINGE posted:My cynicism tells me that this is just a new reason to tear places apart down to the framing, the same way they tear cars apart when the dogs "signal" because they were cued to.
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FRINGE posted:My cynicism tells me that this is just a new reason to tear places apart down to the framing, the same way they tear cars apart when the dogs "signal" because they were cued to. Yeah they're just prepping for nation wide legal weed.
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Thanatosian posted:Yuuuuuuuuuup. The dogs are about as effective as polygraph tests. Do you have a source on this? I remember reading about the bullshit weed dogs, but what about the cadaver dogs that search and rescue groups use? Are they all bad dogs?
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Solkanar512 posted:Do you have a source on this? I remember reading about the bullshit weed dogs, but what about the cadaver dogs that search and rescue groups use? Search and rescue dogs are amazing, I did my high school senior project with an S&R group, and their doggos were frighteningly smart and capable. They had to drop off the backside of a ski resort into a hugely isolated area with no easy access, and they found a guy (corpse) who’d gone about 5 miles into the area 3 days prior, with snow having fallen for the entire time, all in about 4 hours.
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twodot posted:It's a weird situation. Dogs have very good noses. They are also pretty good at picking up on conscious or unconscious cues from humans. A lot of dogs wind up doing what they perceive their humans want, and if their humans want to arrest minorities, then that's not hard to figure out. All I can think of is this video now
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