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Orange Devil posted:It's a landlocked country bordered on all sides by countries it is stealing from. What I'm saying is it's a country literally weeks away from mass starvation if it decides to gently caress with us. Don't they make chocolates though?
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Ah yes, the state of Lake Michigan.
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Heat map measuring gun deaths or disbelief in climate change
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Count Roland posted:Ah yes, the state of Lake Michigan. 
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There are only four (North American) Great Lakes. Michigan–Huron is one lake.
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Guavanaut posted:Bad? Apparently the western end of Lake Erie is just a giant algae bloom now.
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Whiz Palace posted:Apparently the western end of Lake Erie is just a giant algae bloom now. Lawns need to be fertilized.
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Isn't Lake Michigan the only one that's fully under US sovreignty?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Incredible shrinking Luxembourg: necessary to clean up those borders, imho
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Guavanaut posted:Also wealthy and well connected enough to set up some kind of Bern Airlift though. You'd think that, but if France were to participate in a very hypothetical EU blockade of Switzerland, it'd screw up two major Swiss airports out of three.
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Geneva is completely surrounded by France. I've always been surprised that they never grabbed it.
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Phlegmish posted:Geneva is completely surrounded by France. I've always been surprised that they never grabbed it. The same reason Switzerland has survived as independent in general, Alps.
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Phlegmish posted:Geneva is completely surrounded by France. I've always been surprised that they never grabbed it. They got Mulhouse!
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Look if Anthony Hopkins could bring a bunch of elephants over the Alps back in caveman times then they wouldn't even slow down the awesome might of the French military.
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Phlegmish posted:Geneva is completely surrounded by France. I've always been surprised that they never grabbed it. They tried: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Escalade They got soup poured on them and went back home.
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The Swiss do not have a navy, but they do have army units with boats.
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Maxwells Demon posted:They tried: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Escalade Fun fact, Savoy wasn't annexed by France until about a month after the battle of Fort Sumter.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The Swiss do not have a navy, but they do have army units with boats. Hard to supply Switzerland from the Bodensee though.
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Phlegmish posted:Geneva is completely surrounded by France. I've always been surprised that they never grabbed it. Well, the whole place smells like cheez doodles (cheese fondue) and there's no place that accepts credit cards, and there are like 5 ATMs total in the whole city.
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Orange Devil posted:Hard to supply Switzerland from the Bodensee though. Pretty reasonable to supply Switzerland through the Gotthard and San Bernardino though, and lol at the thought of the Italians ever doing anything effectively, let alone a blockade. I mean hell even in WW2 they couldn't manage it and the Germans had to conquer Italy to run their border force.
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Randarkman posted:Well, the whole place smells like cheez doodles (cheese fondue) I'm not sure why you think that, of all things, would deter the French.
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Kassad posted:I'm not sure why you think that, of all things, would deter the French. depends if it's american cheese or not
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Yes, the Swiss invented American cheese in 1350.
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Soviet Commubot posted:Fun fact, Savoy wasn't annexed by France until about a month after the battle of Fort Sumter. Fun fact: the country Joan of Arc came from wasn't annexed by France until about a month before the repeal of the Stamp Act.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Fun fact: the country Joan of Arc came from wasn't annexed by France until about a month before the repeal of the Stamp Act. Except it was definitely part of the medieval kingdom of France, that whole area was complicated anyway, because of dual loyalties and stuff like that, but she specifically came from the French part of the county of Bar. The whole thing sure. But the part where she was born was part of France.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Fun fact: the country Joan of Arc came from wasn't annexed by France until about a month before the repeal of the Stamp Act. Well, it wasn't formally a part of the kingdom, but still belonged to the fiefdoms of the King of France. Another fun fact: King Charles VII asked Joan of Arc what she wanted as payment for saving the kingdom, but she had only one request: that the burden of taxes was lifted from the people of her native village of Domrémy. Charles complied, and for 360 years the villagers never paid a single livre in taxes until the revolution came and put an end to that.
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System Metternich posted:Well, it wasn't formally a part of the kingdom, but still belonged to the fiefdoms of the King of France. Another fun fact: King Charles VII asked Joan of Arc what she wanted as payment for saving the kingdom, but she had only one request: that the burden of taxes was lifted from the people of her native village of Domrémy. Charles complied, and for 360 years the villagers never paid a single livre in taxes until the revolution came and put an end to that. Not quite the same, but this reminded me a bit of how the Spanish dealt with the Tlaxcala after Cortés conquered the Aztecs. I was very surprised to learn that the Spanish actually basically honored a bunch of agreements entered into with them after their decisive contribution to helping Cortés overthrow the Aztecs. They kept their original territory, though somewhat enlarged, and with the exception of being converted to Christianity were allowed to administer themselves, using their own language largely free of direct Spanish rule. I think I even read something sometime on them being part of later colonization efforts in the northern parts of New Spain (though can't find that on wikipedia quickly now searching, so take that with a grain of salt). This remained the situation pretty much all the way down to Mexican independence (they also of course suffered a sharp population decline due to disease over the period).
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Every medieval polity was complicated and granular, that's why hyperbolic oversimplifications are fun. See: Angevin Empire.
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 Here is a link to the original: https://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/NJinvitesYou_1955.gif
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twoday posted:
Some of those locations are, uh, pretty wrong.
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twoday posted:
It is very weird that this ad for 1955 doesn't show the Turnpike or the bridge to Delaware that had already been completed .
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Randarkman posted:Not quite the same, but this reminded me a bit of how the Spanish dealt with the Tlaxcala after Cortés conquered the Aztecs. I was very surprised to learn that the Spanish actually basically honored a bunch of agreements entered into with them after their decisive contribution to helping Cortés overthrow the Aztecs. They kept their original territory, though somewhat enlarged, and with the exception of being converted to Christianity were allowed to administer themselves, using their own language largely free of direct Spanish rule. I think I even read something sometime on them being part of later colonization efforts in the northern parts of New Spain (though can't find that on wikipedia quickly now searching, so take that with a grain of salt). This remained the situation pretty much all the way down to Mexican independence (they also of course suffered a sharp population decline due to disease over the period). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaxcaltec?wprov=sfla1 "The Tlaxcaltecs were also instrumental in the establishment of a number of settlements in Northern Mexico (including parts of present-day southeastern Texas), where conquest of local tribes by the Spaniards had proved unfruitful. They were taken to areas inhabited by nomadic bellicose tribes (known as the Chichimeca) to serve as examples for the local indigenous groups of sedentary model subjects of the Spanish Crown and to work in mines and haciendas. The Tlaxcaltec colonies in the Chichimeca included settlements in the modern states of San Luis Potosí, Zacatecas, Durango, Coahuila, Nuevo León—Nueva Tlaxcala de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe de Horcasistas, today known as Guadalupe, and Santiago de las Sabinas, today known as Sabinas Hidalgo—and Jalisco (Villa de Nueva Tlaxcala de Quiahuistlán, today known as Colotlán)." I know also, from personal experience, that the oldest buildings in Santa Fe, New Mexico (and thus among the oldest buildings in the entire nation) were built by Tlaxcaltecan workers whp travelled with the original Spanish missionaries.
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fishmech posted:It is very weird that this ad for 1955 doesn't show the Turnpike or the bridge to Delaware that had already been completed . It seems to be a rather, um, specialized map.
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steinrokkan posted:Yes, the Swiss invented American cheese in 1350. FINALLY THE TRUTH REVEALED
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twoday posted:
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Powered Descent posted:It seems to be a rather, um, specialized map. That's the thing though, the Delaware Memorial Bridge would be the "short way from the South" you'd want to take, and you'd use the upper Turnpike to get from the north down to the shore roads. One of the ferries the map reccomends would have been discontinued by the time the map was out and the other would be shortly thereafter.
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 I know nothing about China and cannot say how accurate any of these are; this just kind of turned up on Imgur.
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What's the hot, spice eating, panda infested region?
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