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There will never be sufficient political capital because many of the same people currently opposing the pipeline will suddenly get bees in their bonnet about ATOMZ!
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PT6A posted:Is it time for me to come in and point out WE NEED TO BUILD loving NUCLEAR PLANTS? Because, yo, I think we should build some loving nuclear power plants. Yeah, re-nationalize Candu, invest in research aiming for mass production, and bring in an atomic utopia. Alberta's new economy could be nuclear fuel reprocessing. Saskatchewan has the world's highest grade uranium deposits too. Canada likes digging stuff out of the ground, how about using that stuff for good instead of evil?
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Again, we could probably get a lot of government funded research done for the 7.6 billion it will take to build this dumb pipeline
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah, re-nationalize Candu, invest in research aiming for mass production, and bring in an atomic utopia. Alberta's new economy could be nuclear fuel reprocessing. Saskatchewan has the world's highest grade uranium deposits too. Canada likes digging stuff out of the ground, how about using that stuff for good instead of evil? ...I like it. Get the NDP on board and I'll vote for them.
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The worst thing about this whole pipeline is that we can't make fun of Green supporters throwing their vote away anymore. A couple hundred people in BC voted unstrategically for Green instead of NDP. Horgan wins the slimmest majority but needs Green support. Greens will never support pipeline so neither can BCNDP even if they wanted to. It'll get built anyways but they did get KM and the Liberals to flinch. Green Party Status: No longer completely irrelevant.
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Strangely enough, there are a fair number of companies working on generation 3 and 4 reactors in Canada. In my highly imperfect memory it has something to do with regulations in US being overly specific to pressurized light water reactors, whereas our regulations are more independent of the particular type of reactor.
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Bernier is so dumb https://twitter.com/cath_cullen/status/986658886076727296?s=19
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Apr 18, 2018 19:46
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He should have blamed anime fans for his loss instead.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:The worst thing about this whole pipeline is that we can't make fun of Green supporters throwing their vote away anymore. A couple hundred people in BC voted unstrategically for Green instead of NDP. Horgan wins the slimmest majority but needs Green support. Greens will never support pipeline so neither can BCNDP even if they wanted to. It'll get built anyways but they did get KM and the Liberals to flinch. Green Party Status: No longer completely irrelevant. almost as if.. strategic voting is bullshit used by a certain centrist party to scare people into voting for them.. 
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DariusLikewise posted:I think once Manitoba finishes Keeyask and the 100MW sale agreement between Manitoba Hydro and SaskPower kicks in SaskPower can shut down their 3 remaining coal stations. Of course Keeyask is infinitely now delayed under the Manitoba PCs. Interesting. I didn’t know this. Frankly I am kind of surprised. SE SK has a baby version of the “coal culture” of America and is one of the strongest bastions of con voters in the province. I’m surprised, just for political reasons, that the Sask Party would even think about cutting that industry. I mean we would probably still end up just doing the rip and ship to deliver it to some other country anyway, I guess.
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Smiling Demon posted:Strangely enough, there are a fair number of companies working on generation 3 and 4 reactors in Canada. In my highly imperfect memory it has something to do with regulations in US being overly specific to pressurized light water reactors, whereas our regulations are more independent of the particular type of reactor. Yeah it's interesting, Terrestrial Energy in Ontario is looking poised to be the first, or at least one of the first, to have low pressure small molten salt reactors approved and on the market. They've passed the first set of regulatory hurdles and are eyeing test sites in Chalk River and Idaho National Lab. They even have Obama's secretary of energy on their board, so that's got to help. It would be rad to pour a few billions into getting reactors like theirs online as fast as possible, if only decades of Cold War and fossil fuel industry promoted radiophobia didn't make that politically near-impossible. Subsidized Canada-built electric cars and buses manufactured and powered using Canada-built next gen nuclear plants with renewables picking up the slack is a nice dream. To bad instead we're going to spend 8 billion to pour our poo poo bitumen into the oceans for the sake of maybe a decade of meagre Texas-company profits before the house of cards collapses and the oceans turn to lifeless acid and the breadbaskets turn to deserts and the world is hosed forever.
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Is that requirement on scrapping your existing vehicle to get the subsidy for real? That's insanely stupid.
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JawKnee posted:Is that requirement on scrapping your existing vehicle to get the subsidy for real? That's insanely stupid. The used car market was really struggling, I guess. Was there any reason you couldn't sell a gasoline-fuelled car for a large amount of money, then buy a beater that's barely functional, scrap that car and get the discount and the full value of your decent car that you wanted to replace?
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I guess, but that's not what I'm getting at: making new cars is bad for the environment. Driving used is much better, even if they burn gas.
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JawKnee posted:I guess, but that's not what I'm getting at: making new cars is bad for the environment. Driving used is much better, even if they burn gas. Oh, for sure. It's stupid if it's used as intended, but it's even worse if you can scam it.
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James Baud posted:You guys know that BC already gives you ~11k off a new electric car, right? And HOV lane access when solo which is worth thousands more. Coincidentally I have a rust bucket probably worth about nothing that I need to sell or scrap. Would this program accept it or do they have some actual standards?
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PT6A posted:The used car market was really struggling, I guess. You would have to have the beater insured to drive for 6 months before scrapping it, but otherwise yeah. Femtosecond posted:Coincidentally I have a rust bucket probably worth about nothing that I need to sell or scrap. Would this program accept it or do they have some actual standards? I don't think it even needs to run, it just has to be registered to you. Square Peg fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Apr 18, 2018 20:44
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Last night I found out thread superstar smoke somethin bitch was part of the grand j00se trip from TCC back in the day. I shouldn't have been surprised but I laughed like crazy. Smoke on you crazy diamond.
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EvilJoven posted:This. The only thing that made me feel OK with voting Liberal in my riding, besides it being a dead heat between Carr and Bateman, was that in doing so hopefully it'd be the last time strategic voting would make sense. Now you can look forward to ten years from now screaming till you're blue in the face that this is what Liberals do... ...and having everyone ignore it because somethingsomething Conservatives this time is different. Welcome to the hell those of us who remember the Chretien years experienced.
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BGrifter posted:Now you can look forward to ten years from now screaming till you're blue in the face that this is what Liberals do... Isnt it fun having lived through this movie before and seeing that no one learned anything?   My favourite part of this upcoming saga is definitely going to be when the Librerals inevitably lose to the Cons and then proceed to start harping on them to pass voting reform.
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Tighclops posted:Nobody who is willing to vote for this rear end in a top hat cares about stuff like math Conservative Math Problem: Which is better? Zero income tax gives full time-workers earning $14 an hour an extra $800 per year. Raising the minimum wage to $15/hr gives the same worker an extra $2080 in gross income and $1553 after taxes. Conservative Solution: TAXES BAD! FORD NATION! NO TAXES! FORD NATION!
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InfiniteZero posted:Conservative Math Problem: That's a generous way to interpret it, when it's more of the same Conservative gently caress THE POOR mentality while trying to also get their votes.
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SilverMike posted:That's a generous way to interpret it, when it's more of the same Conservative gently caress THE POOR mentality while trying to also get their votes. This is true, I was being extra kind in my analysis of the thought process.
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Theoretically all the Liberals would have to do is pay for a series of ads with that math problem explained in the simplest possible terms, correct?
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Tighclops posted:Theoretically all the Liberals would have to do is pay for a series of ads with that math problem explained in the simplest possible terms, correct? 
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Tighclops posted:Theoretically all the Liberals would have to do is pay for a series of ads with that math problem explained in the simplest possible terms, correct? Yes we got power in 2003 and yes we had only increased minimum wage to $11.60 until 1/1/2018 but now let us explain why we think it's ok and good to tax minimum wage workers
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Pretty fuckin sweet meltdown accusing Doug of being someone he's not because of something he didn't say. https://twitter.com/Kathleen_Wynne/status/986629678965370880 https://twitter.com/OntLiberal/status/986691223720222720 https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/10852146480 Man so many people would love to see her in jail, this is a great approach.
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Kathleen is just trying to drive up sales on her What Happened book
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"The conservatives are employing the Donald Trump strategy. We must respond with Hillary Clinton." And do they not realize that, to people who vote for Ford, being equated to Trump is a good thing?
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Doug Ford doesn't want to be associated with Trump. He did last year but not now.
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xtal posted:"The conservatives are employing the Donald Trump strategy. We must respond with Hillary Clinton." Yes, it helps to remember that there are a lot of people who believe that Donald Trump (and previously Rob Ford) is doing a good job. The chaos and failure of government are actually indications of his success because he's fighting the entrenched elite and anything that upsets "liberals" is a ringing success.
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Reince Penis posted:Doug Ford doesn't want to be associated with Trump. He did last year but not now. Well, he says he doesn't but his campaign seems willing to allow those parallels to surface naturally. The major distinction is that he's not overtly racist and his campaign doesn't otherize immigrants, because they're a big part of his base in the GTA.
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Reince Penis posted:Doug Ford doesn't want to be associated with Trump. He did last year but not now. See, I didn't really hang onto the part of her comparing him to Trump, every hack has been saying that for months. I caught onto the part about turning this election into a referendum about whether Wynne should be in jail and the les miserables song started playing in my head. That'll play pretty well with the rurals who weren't that into big city doug ford. Like, if the headline tomorrow is "Ford channels Trump, says Wynne should be in jail" that's gonna get some head nods out here but not cause of the Trump part.
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https://twitter.com/RWJBoon/status/986687587057356801?s=19 Ha ha holy poo poo burn this loving country to the ground
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Scorchy posted:Notley could cure cancer and she wouldn't win the next election.
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All party committee recommends single payer prescription drug plan http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pharmacare-report-canada-committee-1.4625291 Watch Trudeau run on this in 2019 only to water it down to seniors and students in 2021
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.