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trucutru posted:Some of the bigger morons think it will be SC so, well, they are morons, but they are indeed in the ground floor. And they are all waiting for an elevator that will never come. E: Taxxe. 
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Sarsapariller posted:God it's just a 5 minute comedy of errors, each bug and mechanic more ridiculous than the last. How can anyone make a straight-faced video about this as though any newcomer was going to watch it and not run away screaming? Batgirl talks about the exciting gameplay opportunities afforded during the beautiful planetary approaches... “There is so much you can do while you approach planets. I do schoolwork, work before I go into work, or get up for coffee. See how beautiful the views are?” This is why I believe the core faithful are pre-wired for a “spectacular muddle” endgame. This whole video shows how little she expects from the gameplay. She has her beautiful ships, enjoys the scenery, finds picking up and carrying 20 boxes one at a time from a far away shipwreck a satisfying experience. The free fly player who spawned a Freelancer hull because he didn’t know better then accidentally grabbed her ship and experienced the flight equivalent of a grand mal seizure is Joe Q. Gamer. He was no doubt having his own version of an “Am I Too Stupid to Play Star Citizen?” experience and the answer now is the same Mr. MacArthur merited, “No, the game is too stupid to be played.” MacArthur, god rest his soul, gave CIG everything they needed to hear about the new player experience, for he too was a Free Fly tirekicker. I mean this was over two years ago and the experience is still utterly confusing and without purpose, now at much greater scale with worse server performance. And during that time surely $70+ million more flowed into CIG’s coffers, with apparently precious little budgeted for making the experience a sensible, compelling one for those not afflicted with compulsive spending problems and a Pokémon collector impulse for high poly, high dollar spacepixel assets. Man I wish Chris had to Livestream himself playing the game once a week. The shame and frustration of looking like a dumbass over and over, the inability to do basic things like communicate easily with others, the ten minutes of chair sitting to approach a planet. If his ego and vanity were at stake constantly week in and out he’d surely discover the strange urgency to de-crapify some of these longstanding insufficiences. But no.
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trucutru posted:Because the good games are already covered by the good (either charismatic, funny, lucky, or skilled) streamers. As such, the only way for a mediocre streamer to make it big (as part of the "lucky" type) is to be on the ground floor of the next big thing, and who knows what the gently caress that's going to be. Some of the bigger morons think it will be SC so, well, they are morons, but they are indeed in the ground floor.
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Sarsapariller posted:I guess I'm out of the loop because I don't really watch daily streamers. I'd much, much rather watch someone like Chip Cheezum or Helloween pick apart an interesting game from ten years ago. I can't imagine trying to launch an internet showbiz career off the back of an alpha video game. At least have some charisma before you try! Yea its a brave new world out there.
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Sarsapariller posted:I guess I'm out of the loop because I don't really watch daily streamers. I'd much, much rather watch someone like Chip Cheezum or Helloween pick apart an interesting game from ten years ago. I can't imagine trying to launch an internet showbiz career off the back of an alpha video game. At least have some charisma before you try! Well, they saw some of the streamers that got big playing Heartstone or such and, quite frankly, they are not wrong in believing that "I can do that!". Problem is that games with a low barrier to entry that also become popular are pretty loving rare. (not that a blizzard game will ever not be popular at launch).
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Wuxi posted:I mean, lets not get ahead of ourselves, its literally what you did. You know on the one hand I want to say something sarcastic like "That's a novel angle thank you for bringing it to my attention." Hurrrr two years ago you thought maybe this thing was going to come out after all, then on further reflection realized you were wrong and bailed, and publicly talked about it, you loving idiot! Boy am I glad you managed to polish up that little gem before serving it all to us on the sparkling platter of your wit. On the other hand, it wouldn't be this thread if people didn't constantly kick up old turds like the world's nastiest catbox, and it was pretty stupid, and it doesn't really bother me to be reminded that I sometimes am guilty of wishful thinking about video games. But it's just so tedious you know? Given that there were people, not even a week ago in this thread, talking about buying accounts and meeting up in-game for whatever reason, but a mistake from two goddamn years ago is still the thread meme.
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Agony Aunt posted:Seems like its normally the judge that issues the scheduling order anyway: https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_16 The December 13th Stand Order is literally the guidebook for the particular court - I don't have a scribd link, but it's Case 2:17-cv-08937-DMG-FFM Document 14; quote:11. ORDER SETTING SCHEDULING CONFERENCE Sarsapariller posted:still the thread meme. So, you don't have any ships?
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his nibs posted:I made friends probably with a goon Wait....There is cupping going on here? And I wasn't offered any? MODS!!!!!!! 
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Hav posted:So, you don't have any ships? I got out everything they'd refund me for- sold most in fall 2015 and refunded the rest, along with the "Buy back in" crap in spring 2016. I still have an account with a gladius on it, because they were prickly about it and it wasn't worth small claims court over the $60 or whatever that thing cost. For some reason I'm still on their concierge list, and the last time I played was that free-fly test thing they did for concierge people only, back when they rolled planets out. I wrote about it in here. I haven't been to their official site in a long time now, I refuse to click "Yes" on the like 20 ToS changes that pop up if I try.
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Sarsapariller posted:You know on the one hand I want to say something sarcastic eonwe posted:anime is Oh wait no, the second horseman has been banned for doxxing. End times averted.
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Sarsapariller posted:I guess what consistently blows my loving mind about streamers is this- wouldn't you, like, find a good game first? Or at least one that generates interesting videos? I could see Star Citizen being a really popular stream if you basically just got hammered off your rear end, griefed people, and laughed at glitches. But trying to actually play it for reals and pretend that this is all very serious professional bzns please subscribe is the height of lunacy to me. There's basically one level, and nothing works! How can you hope to make even an hour's worth of fun content out of that? Two things: getting hammered off your rear end and griefing people is actually still unfun in Star Citizen just because of how loving lovely the game itself is. And also, streamers operate mainly on "hype" and or their own personal brand. That's how you end up getting guys going in hard on poo poo like Destiny 2 even if it sucks (full disclosure I thought Destiny 2 was good but also tbf I haven't launched it since... yeah okay it's bad)
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Hey what happens if your spaceship that you paid thousands of real life currency for --- gets destroyed in game? Are you just out of luck? This assumes a real game exists etc etc
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No one knows, not even CIG. Although it's not like it's a core aspect of gameplay or anything, so nothing to worry about.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Hey what happens if your spaceship that you paid thousands of real life currency for --- gets destroyed in game? Are you just out of luck? CIG is taking care that that will never happen. Good guy CIG.
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Stealing from Discord: pgabz spotted in ship-griefing training camp. https://i.imgur.com/EyoVn1y.gifv
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Tippis posted:Stealing from Discord: pgabz spotted in ship-griefing training camp. He's so angry jesus.
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Streamer quality is improving at least https://clips.twitch.tv/KawaiiIntelligentWitchDoggo https://clips.twitch.tv/ThirstyCrispyConsoleBabyRage
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JugbandDude posted:"Oh and now the game is going to despawn the ship and tele-transport the players back to the station, because this is what totally happens in high fidelity simulations" On one hand you have ships with crazy complex joints and gears, all independently animated for maximous fidelicious. One the other hand, ships spawn out of thin air and can despawn in space for no logical reason other than a hidden timer running out. While you're still controlling it. Priorities, guys. Priorities.
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Sarsapariller posted:I got out everything they'd refund me for- sold most in fall 2015 and refunded the rest, along with the "Buy back in" crap in spring 2016. I still have an account with a gladius on it, because they were prickly about it and it wasn't worth small claims court over the $60 or whatever that thing cost. For some reason I'm still on their concierge list, and the last time I played was that free-fly test thing they did for concierge people only, back when they rolled planets out. I wrote about it in here. I haven't been to their official site in a long time now, I refuse to click "Yes" on the like 20 ToS changes that pop up if I try. I know it's just lovely record keeping on CIG's part that keeps you on their concierge list after you refunded but I want to believe that they realized how dumb you are for going four figures deep again after refunding the game the first time and they want to keep an eye on you for the inevitable third buy in.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Hey what happens if your spaceship that you paid thousands of real life currency for --- gets destroyed in game? Are you just out of luck? I believe you currently have to wait 8 hours or so until the A.I. insurance agents approve your claim, or you can spend all of your virtual currency to expedite things. If they ever add persistence, and you don't have insurance, you'll probably have to contact customer support while sobbing uncontrollably.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Hey what happens if your spaceship that you paid thousands of real life currency for --- gets destroyed in game? Are you just out of luck? Whatever you believe will happen in your fantasies about the game will be the reality. This is true for all backers. The fact that the backers and CIG can't (or refuse to) understand what a problem this is, is frankly mind-boggling.
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Tippis posted:Stealing from Discord: pgabz spotted in ship-griefing training camp. SURPRISE, MOTHERFUCKER!
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Sarsapariller posted:I got out everything they'd refund me for- sold most in fall 2015 and refunded the rest, along with the "Buy back in" crap in spring 2016. I still have an account with a gladius on it, because they were prickly about it and it wasn't worth small claims court over the $60 or whatever that thing cost. For some reason I'm still on their concierge list, and the last time I played was that free-fly test thing they did for concierge people only, back when they rolled planets out. I wrote about it in here. I haven't been to their official site in a long time now, I refuse to click "Yes" on the like 20 ToS changes that pop up if I try. It wasn't a serious question, but I appreciate it. {{hug}} Now, because VictorianQueerLit was missing the 10,000 word legal opinions, I present a reformatted and slightly more easy to read version of Skadden's initial discovery request as bitched about by CiG's counsel. Note that the courts have ignored comment on this thus far, because you're supposed to follow the bloody guidelines even if you disagree. quote:1) All COMMUNICATIONS between CRYTEK and DEFENDANTS, whether by e-mail, private messaging, or forum posts, exchange of media, or file transfer protocol, and all DOCUMENTS incorporating or referencing those COMMUNICATIONS, including but not limited to e-mail chains forwarding those COMMUNICATIONS in whole or in part or commenting on those COMMUNICATIONS. Hav fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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IANAL but CIG will be receiving sexual affection in 14 days.
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DapperDon posted:Wait....There is cupping going on here? And I wasn't offered any? MODS!!!!!!! Cupping is for communists and perverts. We rub here.
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Hav posted:Cupping is for communists and perverts. We rub here. But that guy told everyone that there is ball cupping going on. And goddammit I want in on it. It's cold outside.
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Hav posted:It wasn't a serious question, but I appreciate it. {{hug}} Initial thoughts after a brief skim: #14 -- Wow, that's a lot of corporations. #45, 47, and 48 - Sounds like CIG was trying to poach talent/know-how from Crytek, or at least that's what Crytek is thinking.
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VictorianQueerLit posted:I know it's just lovely record keeping on CIG's part that keeps you on their concierge list after you refunded but I want to believe that they realized how dumb you are for going four figures deep again after refunding the game the first time and they want to keep an eye on you for the inevitable third buy in. Please start a kickstarter to collect money to buy back into SC, Sarsa!
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his nibs posted:Streamer quality is improving at least Vaping in front of a webcam just isnt cool. Just smoke a real cigarette plz, how hard can it be.
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Roberts Space Twin Foundry Gemini Cloud Bros. Industries 42 Games Imperium Rights Productions Ltd. Entertainment LLC Texas GmbH Limited Services UK International Corp.
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Star Citizer: 40 GB of Roberts Space Twin Foundry Gemini Cloud Bros. Industries 42 Games Rights Productions Ltd. Entertainment LLC Texas GmbH Limited Services UK International Corp. , 40 KB of gameplay
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Frank_Leroux posted:Initial thoughts after a brief skim: Yeah, one of the reasons that they mention Carl Jones and have such a hardon for Ortwin is that apparently they were on both sides of the GLA. I believe that one thrust of their argument is that CiG believed Crytek was dead in the water and signed the agreement believing that they'd walk away free, without reckoning on the hot Turkish cash injection. Note that they refer to market analyses of the engine in #56. #54 & #55 personally amuse me.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Hey what happens if your spaceship that you paid thousands of real life currency for --- gets destroyed in game? Are you just out of luck? It does not get permanently lost although there are many in the community who believe if the ship has no insurance, it should disappear forever.
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I have kind of a bone to pick with some of you in this thread who actually feel bad for anyone that works there. CR and the management gang rightfully get the bulk of the scorn but I think some of you are missing a big part of the picture. This isn't Madoff and a few buds setting up some investment ponzi scheme, this is more akin to a large office building running phishing scams out of India/Florida. A lot of people are involved. Even the lowliest dev knows what the score is. They know they can't deliver even 1/4 of what Cr promised. They probably justify it to themselves by thinking that they aren't the ones who made the promises. But they are scum for multiple reasons (not every employee fits every one of these reasons but if you fall into even 1 you are morally culpable) 1. They stay at their job even though they know the game is unable to be delivered even remotely close to as promised. Their entire paycheck is derived from scam money gained under false pretenses. They are aware of this in 2018. 2. They stay at their job even though they are incapable of delivering what their bosses ask. (probably no one is with CRs insane demands but the point stands, its unethical to take money for a job you know you cant do) 3. Many show up on ATVs, streams, etc to perpetuate the scam. To all the devs at CIG, get a real job. And if you whine that you can't get a job in the games industry, maybe it isn't for you. Because technically speaking you aren't in the games industry right now. You are in the scam/MLM industry. If you whine that you need the money. That doesn't give you the right to take it from others, often mentally ill, under false pretenses. You are scum. If you stayed for an additional 2 weeks after realizing it was a scam. You are scum. I know it seems harsh but its 2018. Everyone is fully aware of what the score is. I'd love to get some feedback and a cogent explanation from someone in here on why the even lowly QA person at CIG is somehow not a scammer. Without all those employees Chris wouldn't have been able to scam even a small percentage of what was raised. The concept art, PU, etc is what brings in money for the scam on an ongoing basis. They are what makes this possible. ColonoscopyExp fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Tippis posted:Stealing from Discord: pgabz spotted in ship-griefing training camp. Landng succsfl
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