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I think that all the invulnerable yellow mana ninjas should be steadily made worse (just remove a spell with no replacement, make their autoattack animation 2 seconds long, etc) over the course of a month or so and then removed when everyone has stopped playing them.
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im of the weird opinion that heroes should have resources other than time to manage, and that at the very least the ones that don't should be vulnerable to being killed and not literally invincible and unkillable at all stages of the game please and thank you
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I do admit that I find it a little funny that what used to be the main counter to endless waveclear (dive comps) are now incredibly hard to execute because the community collectively whinged about tanks hard enough to force all of them except Sion, Sejuani, and Alistar straight out of the meta. All of the engage-heavy tanks feel loving miserable to play toplane versus Conqueror setups.
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Apr 18, 2018 15:39
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buff lissandra give. her. a. passive.
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Apr 18, 2018 16:04
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Her passive is ‘if I can slow lane down I will outlast my opponents mana bar. Her Q is really safe, reliable poke.
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Apr 18, 2018 18:08
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At what point should I move on from AI games and how bad will it be?
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Apr 18, 2018 19:27
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alternate mechanics like energy and rage and heat are loving cool and riot should invest more time in using them rather than manaless champions which are not interesting at all anymore. lets see a champion that gat another resource that they have to charge up to use any abilities
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Erdricks posted:At what point should I move on from AI games and how bad will it be? As soon as possible, you learn only the bare basics from bots. Too long with them and you will probably develop bad habits As to the second part, who cares. Normals dont really mean poo poo, if anyone starts giving you crap just mute them E: if you want some pointers, there's discord info in the op, pop in and say hi and ask away. People generally organise games there too el dingo fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Apr 18, 2018 19:37
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they should remove mana from the game
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Endorph posted:they should remove mana from the game
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Apr 18, 2018 20:21
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Giving a character mana should be considered a game design failure imo.
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Vermain posted:I think it's mostly okay. The two poster children for manaless waveclear - Zed and Katarina - aren't in the same boat in terms of speed/efficiency/safety as champions like Taliyah, ASol, or Anivia, and this particular change seems more intended to solve mid/late-game clearing problems instead of early-game clearing problems. Zed has to use his escape/gap-closer for his waveclear to be quick. Katarina has to stand directly next to the wave. They both already have issues.
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Ahri is better than before after playing her. Her e dmg amplification is insane late game. Leblanc rework, I played 1 game after she was renabled. Gotta get used to R not being a toggle style spell anymore. She feels ok but it's hard not to miss the w q waveclear she had. Definitely has stronger early trading but has her old weakness of not being able to push until 6. Galio's ult cooldown is insanely long. So going mid with tp then splitpushing in the mid game is a lot harder because you have to rely more on good tps rather than your ult. I even played it with ultimate hat. Also it is really hard to itemize for cdr on Ap galio. Zhonyas/Banshee/shoes are the best options but defensive shoes are better so you can lane more aggressively and take harass.
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i have done many bad things in my life. i have queued with people far too low in ranking for my existence in the game to be anything but unfair. i have played lulu top. i have played shaco jungle, and pure AP(with pure flat AP rune) teemo. but nothing... NOTHING i have done has been heinous enough to justify this: there was a coin leona who would ult waves to stop pushes, and out of the other 4 members of my team, that was the person i wanted to play with again the most.
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Vermain posted:I do admit that I find it a little funny that what used to be the main counter to endless waveclear (dive comps) are now incredibly hard to execute because the community collectively whinged about tanks hard enough to force all of them except Sion, Sejuani, and Alistar straight out of the meta. All of the engage-heavy tanks feel loving miserable to play toplane versus Conqueror setups. i wouldnt mind tanks in the top lane if they didnt all have infinite, free waveclear of their own. getting a 100 gold lead on poppy only for her to q the wave and run to safety for 15 minutes every loving game was not fun. or for nautilus' entire gameplan to be "e the wave and grab the guy into my creeps because im too feeble to win a trade without all six of them"
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Erdricks posted:At what point should I move on from AI games and how bad will it be? But that's OK. Just mute everyone.
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Apr 18, 2018 21:56
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The Good News: Announcer Packs on the PTR after years of begging The Bad News: It's literally Phreak, as Phreak
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Apr 18, 2018 22:35
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RealFoxy posted:The Good News: Announcer Packs on the PTR after years of begging Haha, nice late April Fools prank, Riot. Now, seriously,
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Apr 18, 2018 22:36
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I'm so bad at Kat wtf this is after like 25 games, too
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Apr 18, 2018 22:46
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Sexpansion posted:I'm so bad at Kat wtf She is incredibly tough to get a handle on because she as a character is more reliant on knowing every single enemy cooldown than anyone else in the game.
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so glad old LeBonk is back
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Pro Zyra tips 1) make enemies engage into you (by which I mean, wait till they walk at you) 2) spend some time during the fight doing other stuff, like hitting vision plants, after you've dropped your first rotation to bm your opponents e: 3) get flanked by a tank, don't notice, get saved by your team: a skilled and correct line of play I really want to record the number of accidental 'whoops I guess that plant 100-0'd someone' versus on purpose 'I cast spells at this man to make him die' kills I get as Zyra. https://plays.tv/s/LhQ251OMRgdH Also the obligatory 'I dealt the most damage so I'm the best player' screenshot (nevermind that I was mostly damaging tanks with liandries):  I hope the mana changes encourage more manaless mids so I can get more blue buffs for Zyra, the Real Carry. The Shortest Path posted:It goes back up to 3% when it upgrades to Seraph's, so it's only a temporary setback. Does it help at all that their mana growth is staying the same, or does loving their early mana options matter way more?
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RIP ZEEZ
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gvibes posted:Now, and bad. What pvp mode is best to start in, blind or draft?
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Erdricks posted:What pvp mode is best to start in, blind or draft? Draft is better since you usually won't have idiots fighting over who gets to go to what lane, it'll also let you focus on learning a couple roles so the learning curve is less steep.
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I thought it locked you out of draft mode for a while
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kingcobweb posted:I thought it locked you out of draft mode for a while Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I looked it up and draft mode unlocks once the account is lvl 10 and owns 20 champs. I thought it was worse than that. It's not like blind pick is the "wrong" way to jump into pvp either, the games tend to be a bit more casual which is nice but you should probably be willing to play any role.
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foutre posted:Does it help at all that their mana growth is staying the same, or does loving their early mana options matter way more? For mid malphite specifically it makes his mediocre-at-best laning even more dire, which gives the enemy lanes more of an opportunity to get far enough ahead that you can't gib them easily at 6 or in the midgame. Past that point his mana matters a lot less. Of course, he's already a really gimmicky pick so 
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Herbotron posted:Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Unranked draft is 20 available champs, so with 14 on free rotation that means you only have to own 6.
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pahuyuth posted:so glad old LeBonk is back Ya I fed vs her in one of my games as Yasuo. Her early trading is insane if you don't push her in.
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Warwick Jaws of the Beast (Q) target's max health % changed from 6/7/8/9/10% to 4/6/8/10/12% heal changed from 30/40/50/60/70% to 15/30/45/60/75% Blood Hunt (W) cooldown lowered from 120/105/90/75/60 to 120/100/80/60/40 bonus movement speed changed from 35/40/45/50/55% to 25/35/45/55/65% Ha, that's not really all that bad, I'm okay with some hits to him if it means people will shut the hell up and stop banning him and let me pick it
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like... for early game, I guess.+
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Someone sell me on the necessity for huge wave clear changes. As far as I am concerned, easy wave clear allows you to get to the fun part of the game - moving around the map and fighting other people. Killing creeps is just a necessary evil.
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The main issue is that massive waveclear means that if even one person is alive you can't really push, which stalls out games. That's why Banner of Command is so appealing now, it lets you take towers from outside normal waveclear range.
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drat, those Lux buffs are nice. Lucent Singularity requires a bit more precision to hit in lane and isn't as good as a zoning tool, but that's a small price to pay for a sizeable decrease in mana cost and cooldown.
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Vermain posted:drat, those Lux buffs are nice. Lucent Singularity requires a bit more precision to hit in lane and isn't as good as a zoning tool, but that's a small price to pay for a sizeable decrease in mana cost and cooldown. what are they?
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RealFoxy posted:The Good News: Announcer Packs on the PTR after years of begging https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5ioqQeziQ
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