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MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

bell jar posted:

more like tipswich

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The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

:emptyquote:

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
ANZAC Day operations training tonight.

I'm standing next to a rock (it's a natural memorial to Vietnam veterans) all morning. This has some of my colleagues jelly of my easy job and me unhappy that I don't actually do anything.

At least I'm helping to coordinate the local march.

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I bet it's a pretty nice rock though

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Peter Martin's actually a pretty good commentator when it comes to economic matters.

Clearly he needs to stay the gently caress away from subjects such as nation-building, technology and infrastructure.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

QUACKTASTIC posted:

I bet it's a pretty nice rock though

I'm told we have concerns about people tripping over the rock when going to place wreaths. This is bad because people tripping is bad and they don't look down to see the rock. Also not a great look on ANZAC Day to walk on s memorial to the fallen .

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.
I like that the memorial to the fallen is a rock that it's easy to trip over

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Gridlocked posted:

I'm told we have concerns about people tripping over the rock when going to place wreaths. This is bad because people tripping is bad and they don't look down to see the rock. Also not a great look on ANZAC Day to walk on s memorial to the fallen .

Are they worried about civilians, or officers

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Don Dongington posted:

Are they worried about civilians, or officers
Officers. Those fuckers have all been to Duntroon. Who knows what they'll do with an innocent rock!

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Don Dongington posted:

Are they worried about civilians, or officers

Mostly school kids and vetrens with walking sticks.

Apperently a few years back one of the old boys tripped on it and fractured his ankle which is pretty nasty when you're 80.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Sounds like these veterans need the nanny state now more than ever

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

JBP posted:

Sounds like these veterans need the nanny state now more than ever

Making jokes about aged care is scary man.

My folks will be in the aged care required bracket in 10 or do years time and I'm already worried about how I deal with that.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Gridlocked posted:

Making jokes about aged care is scary man.

My folks will be in the aged care required bracket in 10 or do years time and I'm already worried about how I deal with that.

Hopefully you'll be able to use all that sweet rock guardin' money to take care of them!

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Gridlocked posted:

Making jokes about aged care is scary man.

My folks will be in the aged care required bracket in 10 or do years time and I'm already worried about how I deal with that.

I'm an only child and my dad (68) fell and acquired a brain injury last year that should have ended him, but he somehow recovered close to fully. When the social worker suggested I may have to care for him full time I basically laughed in her face. Like, I've seen Gilbert Grape lady.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Don Dongington posted:

Hopefully you'll be able to use all that sweet rock guardin' money to take care of them!

You're under the impression I get paid to guard the rock.

I do not. It's all volunteer work in the SES my lad.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

JBP posted:

I'm an only child and my dad (68) fell and acquired a brain injury last year that should have ended him, but he somehow recovered close to fully. When the social worker suggested I may have to care for him full time I basically laughed in her face. Like, I've seen Gilbert Grape lady.

I VOTE LABOR GILBERT

Brown Paper Bag
Nov 3, 2012

https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulfarrell/the-former-australian-border-force-commissioner-has-now?utm_term=.alNVQl0DYM#.mq1P3A0Wye

The man has some spicy takes

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
What's a natural memorial? Instead of building something proper they just picked a rock laying around and said yeah that's our memorial now?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

bandaid.friend posted:

What's a natural memorial? Instead of building something proper they just picked a rock laying around and said yeah that's our memorial now?

Yeah you put a plaque on a rock.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/986792222891769857

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbHP5ikVMAAHFr-.jpg

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

JBP posted:

Yeah you put a plaque on a rock.

Lest the rock forgets.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."
I've decided I'm going to go the in home nurse route when the time comes for my olds. Nursing homes are insanely expensive and the level of care is absolute loving dogshit. I've seen elderly friends and relatives in them fed appalling meals and generally ignored by staff.

A nurse can roll by once a few times a week until there is absolutely no other choice but to warehouse them in one of those shitholes. There's a long history of perfectly good health followed by catastrophic fatal strokes in my family anyway so hopefully that's how it rolls.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

JBP posted:

Yeah you put a plaque on a rock.

Worked for Gina Rinehart.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

hiddenmovement posted:

I've decided I'm going to go the in home nurse route when the time comes for my olds. Nursing homes are insanely expensive and the level of care is absolute loving dogshit. I've seen elderly friends and relatives in them fed appalling meals and generally ignored by staff.

A nurse can roll by once a few times a week until there is absolutely no other choice but to warehouse them in one of those shitholes. There's a long history of perfectly good health followed by catastrophic fatal strokes in my family anyway so hopefully that's how it rolls.

I have a friend who lives in West Virginia, and his grandmother lives in England.

He set her up with a computer, webcam, one of those Amazon Alexia whatevers, and uses it to keep in contact with her and make sure she is doing alright. She was feeling a bit sick and hadn't logged onto her computer or fired up the Alexia for a day or so, and he was able to contact a local aged care worker, who went over to her house with a cop to check on her (she was staying in bed with some soup and everything was ok).

Not a bad set up really.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

JBP posted:

I'm an only child and my dad (68) fell and acquired a brain injury last year that should have ended him, but he somehow recovered close to fully. When the social worker suggested I may have to care for him full time I basically laughed in her face. Like, I've seen Gilbert Grape lady.

I'm sorry about your dad's brain injury, but at least he now has a self supporting future as a political cartoonist for the Australian.


No wonder kids like socialism so much these days, people keep describing good and necessary actions as it.

EDIT 2: I've worked out how to edit my posts. I need to click reply, then scroll to my post, then the edit button appears and I click that and then I can edit my posts. I have no idea why this machine in particular vanishes the edit button when others don't but problem solved.

hooman fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Apr 19, 2018

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

hiddenmovement posted:

I've decided I'm going to go the in home nurse route when the time comes for my olds. Nursing homes are insanely expensive and the level of care is absolute loving dogshit. I've seen elderly friends and relatives in them fed appalling meals and generally ignored by staff.

A nurse can roll by once a few times a week until there is absolutely no other choice but to warehouse them in one of those shitholes. There's a long history of perfectly good health followed by catastrophic fatal strokes in my family anyway so hopefully that's how it rolls.

My Nan up in Queensland had that until a year or two before her death. The stupid thing was even though she was legally blind by that point and bumping into things, she'd still do the "gotta clean up before the person who will clean up for me" gets here. She was a sweet old lady. Stubborn, though :)

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:

hiddenmovement posted:

I've decided I'm going to go the in home nurse route when the time comes for my olds. Nursing homes are insanely expensive and the level of care is absolute loving dogshit. I've seen elderly friends and relatives in them fed appalling meals and generally ignored by staff.

A nurse can roll by once a few times a week until there is absolutely no other choice but to warehouse them in one of those shitholes. There's a long history of perfectly good health followed by catastrophic fatal strokes in my family anyway so hopefully that's how it rolls.

There was a story this month on a place in Queensland that fed residents three nuggets and five chips for dinner

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

bandaid.friend posted:

There was a story this month on a place in Queensland that fed residents three nuggets and five chips for dinner

Nationalise aged care now.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."

bandaid.friend posted:

There was a story this month on a place in Queensland that fed residents three nuggets and five chips for dinner

This was exactly what an elderly friend of mine had to endure at a place near fawkner cemetery. A Frankfurt on white bread and a party pie was dinner.

She was diabetic.

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar

hiddenmovement posted:

This was exactly what an elderly friend of mine had to endure at a place near fawkner cemetery. A Frankfurt on white bread and a party pie was dinner.

She was diabetic.

I’ve been to that place for work.

It’s hosed. Old owners sold it and made a tidy sum, new owners want to put more units in (there’s no room for more units) and have cut services (like fire protection and security monitoring).

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

hiddenmovement posted:

This was exactly what an elderly friend of mine had to endure at a place near fawkner cemetery. A Frankfurt on white bread and a party pie was dinner.

She was diabetic.

This is insane and loving revolting
I shouldn't be surprised but what kind of mind purposefully treats human beings in their care like this in the name of profit?
gently caress

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

hooman posted:

Nationalise aged care now.
What about a royal commission?

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

EoinCannon posted:

This is insane and loving revolting
I shouldn't be surprised but what kind of mind purposefully treats human beings in their care like this in the name of profit?
gently caress

A capitalist

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Cartoon posted:

What about a royal commission?

Nah skip it.

Make them compete against a state owned alternative and have serious audits for compliance to standards, if they want to be in the market they'll have to find the so called efficiencies.

Do the same with banks.

Run state businesses at cost, let the market be efficient to compete, otherwise I guess they aren't more efficient after all.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

It's what happens when you commodify everything.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
Kerosine baths.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Amoeba102 posted:

It's what happens when you commodify everything.

Pretty much exactly this. When the only motivation is profit and not best outcome this is what happens.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Thing about parents is they need to be harvested before they can spend all of my their superannuation money

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EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Being a western consumer I'm obviously comfortable with some level of human exploitation to save money, but man....
The notion of starving the elderly to line your pockets in a modern, developed economy is really getting to me today.
I thought we were better than this

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