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duz posted:So, uh, went out this morning to my car and someone made off with my charging cable. Any recommendations for level 1 outlet chargers on Amazon so I won't be too long without a personal cable? There's a public station across the street so I'm not 100% dead. I plan on getting the '19 Leaf this fall which should come with another OEM cable so I'm fine with something not great but usable. That sucks. Maybe you can buy it back on Craigslist from the meth-head that stole it.
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The Sicilian posted:Once again, GM has a hit on their hands and has accurately predicted WHAT CONSUMERS WANT...Who am I kidding? gm has pretty accurately figured out that consumers want crossovers and trucks
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Apr 18, 2018 15:52
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I wonder if that’s the EV Buick Mary Barra teased a few months ago. I suppose so, but I thought that was supposed to be a production car. Too bad, a 370 mile range car with Supercruise sounds pretty cool.
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Apr 18, 2018 16:04
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Agronox posted:I wonder if that’s the EV Buick Mary Barra teased a few months ago. I suppose so, but I thought that was supposed to be a production car. Too bad, a 370 mile range car with Supercruise sounds pretty cool. I’m trying to remember if that Buick looks like one of the two cars GM briefly showed me last summer at this event: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/10/general-motors-plans-for-an-all-electric-future-20-new-evs-coming-by-2023/ It might well have been. The other one, which is going to be a Cadillac, is more of a futuristic one-box design. Both should be on sale by the end of the year, according to the what they told us last year.
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Apr 18, 2018 16:43
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drgitlin posted:Both should be on sale by the end of the year, according to the what they told us last year. Wait, if that Buick above is it, is that even possible? Could they go from concept to on sale in less than nine months?
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Apr 18, 2018 17:07
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This is cool and I hope it spreads.quote:VW's fast EV charging network is headed to Walmart parking lots I assume real estate is the most expensive part of creating a charging network by far. I feel like these big box stores' parking lots are at most 60% full except on black friday. Good use of existing space.
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Apr 18, 2018 17:55
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Would have legit bought a buck branded volt in a heart beat over the Chevy.
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Apr 18, 2018 19:57
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blugu64 posted:Would have legit bought a buck branded volt in a heart beat over the Chevy. D'oh A Deer A Female Deer
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Apr 18, 2018 20:00
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RZA Encryption posted:This is cool and I hope it spreads.
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Apr 18, 2018 21:09
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RZA Encryption posted:This is cool and I hope it spreads. Tesla has been putting its superchargers in fred meyer parkling lots round here and I'm not gonna lie, Fred Meyer got business because of it. Bought some ice cream, because what else would I do while waiting for a charge?
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Apr 18, 2018 21:20
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Well then. Time to decide if I actually want the drat thing. 
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Apr 18, 2018 21:25
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The Sicilian posted:Once again, GM has a hit on their hands and has accurately predicted WHAT CONSUMERS WANT...Who am I kidding? Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what consumers want. Just a reminder that this is the best selling non-truck right now. 
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Apr 18, 2018 21:26
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silicone thrills posted:Tesla has been putting its superchargers in fred meyer parkling lots round here and I'm not gonna lie, Fred Meyer got business because of it. Bought some ice cream, because what else would I do while waiting for a charge? Yeah, before I got my home charger I shopped a lot more at the Whole Foods in San Mateo.
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Apr 18, 2018 22:06
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Agronox posted:Wait, if that Buick above is it, is that even possible? Could they go from concept to on sale in less than nine months? Well, GM said last October that two more BEVs were coming in 18 months, and they're based on the Bolt platform, so it's possible. Powershift posted:Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what consumers want. I am at a loss as to how so many of those get sold, other than massive discounts and easy financing. The Mazda CX-5 is better in every way I can think of, and the MSRP is cheaper.
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Apr 18, 2018 22:23
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Powershift posted:Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what consumers want. Do you see a Buick badge on that car? Buick currently makes a boatload of boatlike CUV’s and you don’t see them tearing up the sales charts.
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Apr 18, 2018 22:30
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RZA Encryption posted:This is cool and I hope it spreads. Interesting. My local Wal-Mart already has an EVgo charger, as do a few others in the area I've seen. I wonder if this will be replacing those, or if they're doing a different subset of locations.
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Apr 18, 2018 22:41
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The Sicilian posted:Do you see a Buick badge on that car? The Buick Encore is the best selling vehicle by a "luxury" brand in the US. The Buick Enclave and Envision sell about the same as the X3 or X1. Despite their cars each being in the triple digits monthly, Buick sales are around 85% of BMW or Mercedes in the US. So yeah, it seems people do in fact want Buick CUVs
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Apr 18, 2018 22:44
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The Xtrail has seven seats right? It's also larger than the Mazda
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Apr 18, 2018 22:52
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The Sicilian posted:Do you see a Buick badge on that car? They were down a bit in 2018 YoY but the brand did a hell of a lot better in recent years thanks to CUVs.
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Apr 18, 2018 22:52
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dissss posted:The Xtrail has seven seats right? It's also larger than the Mazda The Xtrail/Rogue is one of the cheapest 3 row options, and Nissan has very easy to get financing. So yeah, that's why they sell better than the CX-5.
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Apr 18, 2018 22:55
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If you walk by a Nissan dealer they will try to give you a rogue for free
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Apr 18, 2018 23:00
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the spyder posted:Well then. Time to decide if I actually want the drat thing. also got my invite today. pre-launch online, not an owner, AZ
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Apr 18, 2018 23:37
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Powershift posted:The Buick Encore is the best selling vehicle by a "luxury" brand in the US. The Buick Enclave and Envision sell about the same as the X3 or X1. Despite their cars each being in the triple digits monthly, Buick sales are around 85% of BMW or Mercedes in the US. We’ll first off, you’re mistaken, the Lexus RX outsold every iteration of Buick CUV or SUV. This doesn’t even take into account higher trim CRVs and RAV-4’s in addition to middleweight contenders (not quite luxury, not quite economy) like Subaru. Also, you’re really straining the definition of “Luxury” there. Buick is an “upmarket, prestige brand,” a perfect example of the vestigial remains of an unsophisticated Chinese consumer of days gone by. Finally I’d ask what margin GM is achieving with all the cash on the hood being offered. They may sell more than BMW (X3 and X1), but who is making more per car? Other than the new convertible, none of the current Buick lineup do anything for me. And average age of buyer also reflects this.
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Apr 18, 2018 23:48
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The Sicilian posted:We’ll first off, you’re mistaken, the Lexus RX outsold every iteration of Buick CUV or SUV. This doesn’t even take into account higher trim CRVs and RAV-4’s in addition to middleweight contenders (not quite luxury, not quite economy) like Subaru. Sorry, what was that you were saying about moving goalposts earlier?
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Apr 19, 2018 00:19
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dissss posted:The Xtrail has seven seats right? It's also larger than the Mazda No, they got rid of that option for MY2018.
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Finger Prince posted:Sorry, what was that you were saying about moving goalposts earlier? His claim about best selling isn’t even true. I don’t think the goalposts even exist at this point.
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Apr 19, 2018 00:34
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The Sicilian posted:His claim about best selling isn’t even true. I don’t think the goalposts even exist at this point. Wow.
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Apr 19, 2018 00:39
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The Sicilian posted:His claim about best selling isn’t even true. I don’t think the goalposts even exist at this point. I used 2018 YTD, the most recent data available. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2018/0...vehicle-ranked/ Also, their margins are clearly high enough to continue producing the current CUVs and introducing new ones.
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Powershift posted:I used 2018 YTD, the most recent data available. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2018/0...vehicle-ranked/ That’s a weird year to choose as we aren’t even halfway through it. Look at 2017.
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Apr 19, 2018 00:49
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The Sicilian posted:That’s a weird year to choose as we aren’t even halfway through it. It's weird to use the data about the present to make a statement about the present? Saying "tesla is only producing 500 model 3s a week" based on 2017 would make you lose your poo poo
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Powershift posted:It's weird to use the data about the present to make a statement about the present? Because your original post is missing the word "currently." 3 1/2 months of sales data is not enough.
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I had a Buick Encore 2 year lease at a whopping $139 a month zero down. I am the one guy that bought a Lexus LFA in the last 2 years whatever that is. Elephanthead fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Elephanthead posted:I am the one guy that bought a Lexus LFA in the last 2 years whatever that is. Lexus supercar, they only made a few hundred.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Lexus supercar, they only made a few hundred. A few dealers were sitting on them as new cars, they only made 500 and they are worth like $400k.\ Since I'm pretty sure the only people that give a poo poo about Buick outside of China including the people that end up in them they should probably just make it an electric only brand going forward, just rebrand the Bolt which doesn't make sense as a Chevy in the first place given its price and specs. And as far as sales go on Buick CUVs, when I was car shopping I looked at gently used ones and as far as I can tell car rental companies are just buying shitloads of bottom rung specced ones, like none of them even have had, does it even have a universal name? Whatever keyless entry is when you don't need to press the button on the fob which is the greatest car invention in a long time.
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Apr 19, 2018 02:19
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Three Olives posted:... should probably just make it an electric only brand going forward, just rebrand the Bolt which doesn't make sense as a Chevy in the first place given its price and specs. quote:Whatever keyless entry is when you don't need to press the button on the fob which is the greatest car invention in a long time. Ew. Determinative interaction everytime.
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Speleothing posted:Ew. Determinative interaction everytime. This is how most (All?) are set up. It's not like it unlocks when you get close to the car, at least on a BMW you stick your hand in the door handle and the door unlocks after a tiny delay, as you leave press a capacitive sensor on the outside of the handle and it locks.
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Three Olives posted:This is how most (All?) are set up. It's not like it unlocks when you get close to the car, at least on a BMW you stick your hand in the door handle and the door unlocks after a tiny delay, as you leave press a capacitive sensor on the outside of the handle and it locks. That’s not how the S is configured by default.
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silicone thrills posted:I'm not sure I would have bought a Tesla, ever, if not for autopilot. I wasn't a fan of the look or size of the model S originally. My husband worked next to the dealership and they convinced him to do a 24hr loaner and try AP on his daily commute. He thought it was neat but didn't go for it. A year later he changed jobs and ended up with twice the commute length. Did another 24hr loaner, tested it, and it did 90% of the commute reliably so we ordered our first car then. Actually, Nissan has a similar feature called Propilot: https://www.pcmag.com/news/358388/on-the-road-with-the-2018-nissan-leafs-driver-assist-tech And for what it's worth, they've been doing their fair share of research into fully autonomous driving, with plans to launch a robo-taxi service in Japan based on the Leaf: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/23/17044088/nissan-self-driving-taxi-dena-easy-ride-japan
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Cockmaster posted:Actually, Nissan has a similar feature called Propilot: I feel like I have to be missing something with all the Autopilot hype but Autopilot is basically just adaptive cruise control and lane keep assistant that won't turn itself off in situations where it might murder you by driving into a traffic barrier like every other manufacturer has drawn the line well before that, right? Isn't the original Autopilot just off the shelf MobileEye that was basically the same as MobileEye was shipping to a bunch of car companies until MobileEye told Tesla to cut that poo poo out because it wasn't designed for what they were doing and they were going to kill someone?
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