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To be completely fair Battleborn was an attempt to bring mechanics from a top-down genre into an FPS game like Borderlands did. The problem is they didn't realise that MOBAs were tapped out in general unlike loot games which went a surprisingly long time where there just wasn't that many. I mean we used to call it diablo-style loot until just a couple years ago. They also forgot to steal their entire art direction from something unique and outside of video games so it didn't look so generic and uninspired. It'll be interesting to see how Borlderlands 3 goes after people have played other loot-driven shooters.
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John Murdoch posted:Also unless I'm mistaken Battleborn wasn't intended as an Overwatch ripoff or competitor, it just happened to be developed and launch at about the same time and got creamed for it. This is exactly what happened.
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Futuresight posted:It'll be interesting to see how Borlderlands 3 goes after people have played other loot-driven shooters. I was a pretty big fan of Borderlands 1 + 2, but I don't have much hope for 3. Their games released post-BL2 are: Aliens: Colonial Marines (lol) Borderlands Presequel (weak spinoff made by another studio) Homeworld Remasters (game made by other people) Battleborn (lol) Duke 3D remaster (game made by other people) Bulletstorm (game made by other people) We the Happy Few (game made by other people) So basically their own titles were complete failures, and rest of the time they are busy regurgitating whatever other studios have done, after acquiring the rights to remaster them. Combine this with weird rear end comments from Randy Pitchford about how the "artstyle was holding Borderlands back", and I feel like they have no idea what they're actually doing.
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John Murdoch posted:Also unless I'm mistaken Battleborn wasn't intended as an Overwatch ripoff or competitor, it just happened to be developed and launch at about the same time and got creamed for it. It's not really the same kind of game as Overwatch but nonetheless compared very unfavorably in terms of the characters, art direction and UI.
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There's also the infamous attempt at capitalising on Overwatch's porn fanbase.
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Yeah like Battleborn wasn't very good, but it got so much disingenuous flak that I can't really get on the pure hating it side.
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People have a weird hateboner for Gearbox. They mostly just seem kinda incompetent to me, rather than something I can actively hate. 
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Attestant posted:People have a weird hateboner for Gearbox. They mostly just seem kinda incompetent to me, rather than something I can actively hate. It doesn't help that a lot of the time, people would come out with their creepy channer obsessions over Anthony Burch.
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Jukebox Hero posted:I love how Gearbox has made three ripoffs in a row. Not to be confused with Hi-Rez who just makes copies of games that their boss baby wants to play. It's a shame that Glassdoor's workplace reviews aren't viewable without an account anymore, because their page for Hi-Rez was amazing. So many disgruntled reviews from former and CURRENT employees (it is anonymous) talking about how they had to cater to his whims and how the higher-ups were all toadies licking his heels. It was like the game development equivalent of the current White House administration. They are probably making a battle royale game as we speak, because their big cheese played one of those and really, really liked it 
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Attestant posted:People have a weird hateboner for Gearbox. They mostly just seem kinda incompetent to me, rather than something I can actively hate. The internet cares about video games to a rather disturbing degree.
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Yardbomb posted:It doesn't help that a lot of the time, people would come out with their creepy channer obsessions over Anthony Burch. I don't think it's unreasonable given all that stuff he posted himself, and how he's been repeatedly accused of sexually assaulting other developers within the industry.
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Randy Pitchford is a very easy person to make fun of.poptart_fairy posted:I don't think it's unreasonable given all that stuff he posted himself, and how he's been repeatedly accused of sexually assaulting other developers within the industry. I think you have the wrong guy. There's nothing wrong with Anthony Burch besides just being a relentless self-owner on twitter.
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Mierenneuker posted:They are probably making a battle royale game as we speak, because their big cheese played one of those and really, really liked it They're trying to add a really bad looking battle royale mode to Paladins, which sucks rear end because that's game's actually fun for being another 'hero shooter' or whatever. poptart_fairy posted:How he's been repeatedly accused of sexually assaulting other developers within the industry. You know what I mean though, it's literally never that stuff they care about.
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Except a big fuss has been made about it? Just unlike where he was bullied for tweeting "I wanted an open relationship and my wife gets more dick than me", you don't have much publicity being given to those allegations. Don't go to bat for the creepy little pervert, please.
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exquisite tea posted:Randy Pitchford is a very easy person to make fun of. Randy hate I can get. That guy has issues, and is probably causing a lot of Gearboxes stupidity by himself, if his interviews are anything to go by. I'd love to hear how their PR department feels about him.
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Yardbomb posted:They're trying to add a really bad looking battle royale mode to Paladins, which sucks rear end because that's game's actually fun for being another 'hero shooter' or whatever. I did not know that but that somehow makes it even better from a sideline point of view... and worse for the people working there. It sounds like they are jury rigging an existing game. Late, late edit: I just saw this tweet and I couldn't help but think of this thread. https://twitter.com/PorygonNews/status/986753741843062784 Mierenneuker has a new favorite as of 15:59 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Apr 19, 2018 09:29
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Civilization VI: Hildegard of Bingen can suck my drat balls
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Yardbomb posted:It doesn't help that a lot of the time, people would come out with their creepy channer obsessions over Anthony Burch. Leave it to goons to never forget dumb poo poo people who they don't like said on the internet.
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The Bureau: XCOM Declassified needs to let me drop a loving hard save while back at base. Or just in general. Relying on autosaves is a terrible idea when the game doesn't autosave religiously. I lost nearly 20 minutes of doing stuff between missions because I tried to do a bunch of errands all over the base before stopping for the night. So now when I go back to it tomorrow I have to redo all that stuff again before I can continue on as planned.
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Attestant posted:Combine this with weird rear end comments from Randy Pitchford about how the "artstyle was holding Borderlands back", and I feel like they have no idea what they're actually doing. Hey, it'll be the third (or third and a half) game in the series, just in time for a dark and gritty, grey and brown reboot! DoubleNegative posted:The Bureau: XCOM Declassified needs to let me drop a loving hard save while back at base. Or just in general. Relying on autosaves is a terrible idea when the game doesn't autosave religiously. I lost nearly 20 minutes of doing stuff between missions because I tried to do a bunch of errands all over the base before stopping for the night. So now when I go back to it tomorrow I have to redo all that stuff again before I can continue on as planned. This, but for every game with save systems that don't respect the player's time. Relying on poorly implemented auto-saves is a great way to piss off and burn out your player base as they lose progress because they haven't hit and arbitrary save point in a half hour. The auto-save implementation in Ubisoft games is one of my favorite implementations, though. Those games save after almost every action pretty much invisibly to the player, besides the save icon popping up in a corner of the HUD. One of my favorite indie games, In Celebration of Violence, has the worst save system I've seen. You can only save and quit after defeating a boss. The levels can take up to an hour to completely clear. In the levels, you can find black keys to get you into a bonus dungeon after the boss fight, but you can't save and quit and still hit that bonus dungeon, because saving and quitting puts you at the start of the next level when you continue your game. Also, you can only save and quit; you can't save your progress and continue playing. There is no auto-save on quit, either, so if you do need to quit in the middle of a level, you lose your character, progress, and need to restart the game. Motherfucker, I have a kid on the way, I'm not going to have time to commit an uninterrupted hour of game time with a penalty for saving and quitting to take care of her. It's a shame, too, because the rest of the game clicked with me more than almost any other game I've played. I wouldn't recommend it to everybody, but the gameplay just feels right to me, and it's still one of the few real-time roguelikes that feels like a roguelike.
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Oh yeah. gently caress Gwent.
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Underrail imagine fallout 1 except every enemy is a deathclaw and every one of those deathclaws has a mingun and laser eyes and is also invisible. also the player character is a piece of toilet paper. There i've just summed up how irritating the combat system is,i do like what this game does in many respects but it also does poo poo worse than a 21 year old game and i just can't figure why they developed it that way. The first half of the game you'll be walking through grey caves and getting insta-killed by every single enemy you come across even if you stick to the path you're supposed to be on,it's a terrible start to the game because it's boring,confusing and ugly. But now that i've been playing it for like 30 hours some of the environments are actually really gorgeous and all that's changed is better lighting and some simple changes of wall textures and environmental stuff,it's such a small thing,why wouldn't you open with this stuff instead of the drab poo poo you get at the beginning? bizarre.
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Attestant posted:People have a weird hateboner for Gearbox. They mostly just seem kinda incompetent to me, rather than something I can actively hate. Opposing Force and Blue Shift were pretty good. Then they stopped working on my computer for some reason (vanilla HL1 still runs fine.)
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Wowee Far Cry 5's ending sucks. What a joyless experience.
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Picked up Icewind Dale recently, and while there are a lot of things dragging it down that are just a product of its time, the most baffling one is this: The presence of the STORE and RECALL buttons seem to acknowledge that they know I'm going to mash REROLL until I get high stats, but somehow never considered how incredibly dull that is. Possibly it's supposed to work as a kind of anti-skinner box where you question your life choices more and more with each push of the button.
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I’m playing the third Walking Dead game. The main recurring character is a girl who, in the first game is 8(?), the next like 10, and this one 12/13 ( just guesstimates but should be about right). Anyways now they show her walking swinging her hips like crazy. I’ve NEVER seen a woman walk like that unless they’re trying to get attention or something like at a bar, and a 12 year old a) wouldn’t walk like that and b) wouldn’t have hips big enough to do that. A few minutes later she’s standing with her hand on her magically giant hip in an exaggerated manner; again, I haven’t seen anyone do this; hell, I put my hand on my waist and maybe lean a little because putting my hand on my hip is not comfortable, and I don’t swing my hip all the way out while doing this. Maybe this is an oversight cause they were dumb and don’t know how people walk, or they just used stock 3D models with stock animations that they then put her texture over and I would assume those would be sexualized because Video Games; but, no matter the reason, it bothers me. E: 2 seconds after I post this in a new scene an adult lady walks by with a normal gait and put her hand on her waist like I was describing how I was doing it so yeah there’s no reason for them to have the 12 year old to be standing and walking like that. Thin Privilege has a new favorite as of 16:53 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Attestant posted:People have a weird hateboner for Gearbox. They mostly just seem kinda incompetent to me, rather than something I can actively hate. I’ve posted about this before but I think a whole lot of it is randy pitchford giving them an absolutely awful image. I have talked to some very cool gearbox people irl, and he represents them terribly. This is not to say their games are high quality, but a lot of the accusations at gearbox are 100% fabricated such as “battleborn was intended to shamelessly rip off overwatch.” And then you see what randy is posting on twitter and you almost want to join in. I suspect a lot of the company wishes he would stay off of social media.
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Also they syphoned money from projects they were hired for (like Aliens CM) to fund their own games. And then Pitchford called the people on twitter calling him out for it "trolls and haters". And then there was the time during an interview he claimed one of his more vocal critics only mentioned him so much because he "had a boner for him". Kay Kessler has a new favorite as of 17:02 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Underrail imagine fallout 1 except every enemy is a deathclaw and every one of those deathclaws has a mingun and laser eyes and is also invisible. The early game is rough but it does get better. The game definitely rewards min maxing. A high crafting level is almost necessary to get good weapons and armor. That said, grenades and molotovs are useful as gently caress, so get your throwing stat up and any relevant perks early. Learn how to make the best grenades, and always keep what you need to make them on you. You can solve a lot of problems by chucking fire bombs everywhere. The problem that ruins the game for me, and I've probably posted about this before, is the final area of the game. It's a point of no return that you can quite easily find yourself in by accident. There's no merchants anywhere, and any resources you do find are extremely limited. The enemies are dangerous as hell and respawn. I've played through this game twice up to this point and quit, because it stops being fun the second you run out of anything. The whole min max deal means you're character is probably very good at one thing, and if you can't do that one thing, you're hosed.
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Dethanc posted:Picked up Icewind Dale recently, and while there are a lot of things dragging it down that are just a product of its time, the most baffling one is this: It's a carryover from an older, groggier era of RPG. Early Bioware was stunned when the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games not only had widespread appeal, they had a substantial female fanbase. Baldur's Gate 1 and Icewind Dale 1 were envisioned as being games for a niche audience of grognards and spergs.
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Underrail is really cool with some loving idiotic design decisions. You can't run because the dev wanted you to walk everywhere to emphasise the oppressive metro atmosphere. I lucked into a good build and found the combat really really fun, more than any other single character turn based game I can think of, but I can imagine it being a drag if your build sucks.
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RyokoTK posted:Wowee Far Cry 5's ending sucks. What a joyless experience. It really is, isn't it. Throughout most of the game I sort of suspected that would happen, and when it did, and the way it did, it was even worse than I thought. Just...ugh. Completely devalued the rest of the game for me. Cythereal posted:It's a carryover from an older, groggier era of RPG. Early Bioware was stunned when the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games not only had widespread appeal, they had a substantial female fanbase. Baldur's Gate 1 and Icewind Dale 1 were envisioned as being games for a niche audience of grognards and spergs. Probably because it means women who wanted to interact with these mechanics didn't have to interact with the grognards and spergs that also interacted with them.
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Attestant posted:People have a weird hateboner for Gearbox. They mostly just seem kinda incompetent to me, rather than something I can actively hate. If a developer is well known enough for people to recognize their names then the reactionary basement-dwellers of the internet will hate them obsessively until the end of time. Unless they're an elderly Japanese man in a leather jacket or an eastern European race realist, in which case they will be defended to the death.
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oh dope posted:The early game is rough but it does get better. The game definitely rewards min maxing. A high crafting level is almost necessary to get good weapons and armor. That said, grenades and molotovs are useful as gently caress, so get your throwing stat up and any relevant perks early. Learn how to make the best grenades, and always keep what you need to make them on you. You can solve a lot of problems by chucking fire bombs everywhere. yeah i wish i had put more points into crafting and biology cause the requirements for chemical weapons are huge and i want a chemical flamethrower. I do like this game it just falls short so often and apparently there's no modding capability which is a drat shame.
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Guy Mann posted:If a developer is well known enough for people to recognize their names then the reactionary basement-dwellers of the internet will hate them obsessively until the end of time. Unless they're an elderly Japanese man in a leather jacket or an eastern European race realist, in which case they will be defended to the death. On the other hand why do people such as you go to bat for companies that employed and protected plagiarists, thieves and sexual predators.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Underrail is really cool with some loving idiotic design decisions. You can't run because the dev wanted you to walk everywhere to emphasise the oppressive metro atmosphere. And the game that centers around exploring sprawling caverns, train tunnels, and cities has no automap feature because ???????
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RyokoTK posted:Wowee Far Cry 5's ending sucks. What a joyless experience. It could have worked if you’re looking at it in a total vacuum, but the fact that it’s a complete 180 from the rest of the game makes it terrible. The first 99% is you triumphing over the cult and everybody cheering and setting off fireworks yay woohoo and then all of a sudden right at the very end ACTUALLY YOU LOSE BITCH
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:It could have worked if you’re looking at it in a total vacuum, but the fact that it’s a complete 180 from the rest of the game makes it terrible. The first 99% is you triumphing over the cult and everybody cheering and setting off fireworks yay woohoo and then all of a sudden right at the very end ACTUALLY YOU LOSE BITCH A game that handles surprise nuclear armageddon extremely well is Hotline Miami 2, because that game is all about an escalation of violence and death for its own sake, and the entire world wiping itself out in nuclear hellfire is the only logical conclusion. You're right, FC5 is mostly about good old American rednecks taking back their hills against some weird drug cult and that trademark level of Far Cry irreverence until, apparently, if you actually pay attention to the game's garbage lore, nuclear war breaks out in the background and the entire storyline about liberating Hope County is a complete waste of time anyway since everyone dies. What a waste.
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I had to restart Underrail about 6 times before I found a build that felt good. I went no crafting, unarmed/stealth/psychic and pretty much tore through everything with very few exceptions. Crafting is handy, but it's a huge investment of skill points. The thing that really dragged the game down for me is the lack of map, the end game area especially is an enormous maze. I ended up making a crappy map in paint to try and keep track of it all, which was kind of rewarding on the one hand and a tremendous pain the rear end in another.
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RyokoTK posted:A game that handles surprise nuclear armageddon extremely well is Hotline Miami 2, because that game is all about an escalation of violence and death for its own sake, and the entire world wiping itself out in nuclear hellfire is the only logical conclusion. You're right, FC5 is mostly about good old American rednecks taking back their hills against some weird drug cult and that trademark level of Far Cry irreverence until, apparently, if you actually pay attention to the game's garbage lore, nuclear war breaks out in the background and the entire storyline about liberating Hope County is a complete waste of time anyway since everyone dies. What a waste. I haven't played the game yet, but reading these spoilers wants to make me play it even more. I'm a sucker for any media that takes an abrupt and overwhelming turn completely nixing the entire story. One of my favorite pet ideas is a movie in which the heroic lawyer, walking from the parking garage to the courthouse for the final legal showdown, gets smacked by a bus, and the movie ends on a shot of his case breaking evidence flying gently down a sewer grate. I really, really wanted to like Underrail, but there are way too many little things bringing it down to make it enjoyable for me, all of which have been mentioned here. My main bit is that the difficulty isn't challenging enough to make fights a puzzle to solve, but so deadly thanks to the enemies having comparable stats as the PC, despite outnumbering the PC X-to-1, that every fight feels like bullshit.
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