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Auckland is great y'all are haters. Like do you know how many beaches there are in Auckland? And also the weather there is much warmer than Welly, and you don't have to deal with non-stop extreme wind. Wellington is also great though don't get me wrong, just saying don't write off Auckland if your wife is dead set on it. Welly will feel really small after Japan. Doesn't Dunedin also have a bit of an IT industry now too? Only go to Dunedin if you hate yourself and/or you absolutely must live driving distance to ski fields, though (and even then Auckland and Wellington are just about as close) voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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bike tory posted:Auckland is great y'all are haters. Like do you know how many beaches there are in Auckland? And also the weather there is much warmer than Welly, and you don't have to deal with non-stop extreme wind. Wellington is also great though don't get me wrong, just saying don't write off Auckland if your wife is dead set on it. Welly will feel really small after Japan. It depends a lot on what his wife means by 'city girl', because Auckland's "city" is pretty meh compared to Wellington's city culture. But yes, there's the beaches and better weather (cars mandatory to really make any use of those beaches). If you like hiking, Wellington has multiple trailheads you can take a normal bus to. What sort of Windows work are you doing? You mention documenting tick boxes, are you manually installing things? Or are you working distributed magic with powershell? If it's the later, you should check out what Xero has on offer, which is a "former startup" that's now pretty big, and runs on a Windows platform in AWS, running a distributed .NET application with MSSQL backend. Finding skilled Windows engineers who aren't just desktop support guys is a challenge. I worked there for 5 years, and left a year ago (I live in Montreal now), but unless something dramatic has changed in the past year, it's a great place to work. Offices for the Operations team are in Wellington and Auckland as well, so you'd have options. Otherwise there's also TradeMe, Datacom, Fronde, probably most of the banks, you should find something. Job sites are TradeMe, and Seek, but also don't be afraid to apply direct on their websites when you hear about a cool company worth digging into. Relocation: You're unlikely to get this. Most of the time if we interviewed someone who was currently overseas, it's because they were already planning on being here (ideally with tickets booked) and we'd do interviews over Skype/Hangouts. Plenty of the people I hired had just arrived in the country without a job yet, so it's not a crazy thing to attempt. Salary: really depends on your skillset, but for our Site Reliability Engineers, I don't think anyone was less than 80K (plus bonuses). Don't know about more mainstream IT support salaries. (PMs welcome for more specific questions, I worked for Xero in both their Wellington and Auckland offices, and was a Team Lead involved in hiring)
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Apr 19, 2018 14:36
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It's cool to be discussing this here but just for future reference --because NZpol is a thread for people to scream endlessly into the void-- there's a chill NZ hangout thread here for organising meetups and more casual questions.
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Apr 19, 2018 20:38
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Weatherman posted:Thanks again for your time. I know we've conducted interviews through Skype, with second-interviews being flown over, so that's a possibility but probably less likely for an MSP or a company more concerned with paperskills rather than team fit. There's probably general demand outside Wellington, Christchurch or Auckland, but I think it's at the level that you would be based in one of those cities before getting a job outside of them and moving to it. Auckland owns. But I say that as someone who's not a dingleberry living in the outer suburbs doing a fifty-minute commute for a desk job.
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Apr 19, 2018 22:25
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Just to add the recruiting companies talk up the shortage when dealing with immigration, politicians etc. Sadly when it comes to wages they don’t follow through. They tend to want people with very specific skills and good experience but offer entry level salaries if they can. It is much worse in the smaller centres than in The big three cities for that. I think Dunedin has a fairly strong IT sector for its size. It is a town dominated by the university there. It is also very cold for NZ. For further discussion about moving here check out the thread linked above in the Goon meet section. That tends to cover more of that sort of thing.
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Apr 19, 2018 23:02
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Thanks very much for the information. I feel like I know which directions to be looking in now. Sad to hear about the supposed "shortage" but at least it's not a total disaster. Got that other thread bookmarked now too!
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Apr 19, 2018 23:27
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I like Dunedin  Pay might not be what you're used to here (in NZ) but tech as an industry is overpaid so I'm sure you'll be fine
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Apr 19, 2018 23:57
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We were talking about the Integrated data infrastructure a while back, Treasury have put up the Stats visualiser for (a subset of) IDI data on their website. Fun to play around with.
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Apr 20, 2018 00:31
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NZ is an amazing country - I prefer Wellington over Auckland, but they're both great cities. The only problem with this place is the cost of living. Rent is loving high, food is expensive and wages are comparatively low for tech sector jobs (and they're one of the better paid jobs in this place - I honestly have no idea how blue collar workers get by living in the main cities). I could get off a plane tomorrow and earn double what I am now in Melbourne without much hassle.
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Apr 20, 2018 04:23
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Auckland food can be a mixed bag - you get quite a bit of variety (thanks, immigrant communities), but it can be a bit hit-and-miss. Rotorua has some of the best cafes I've ever been to, on the other hand.
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Apr 20, 2018 04:29
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Remember that you'll never be able to buy a house in Auckland proper. Prices aren't Tokyo bad, but give 'em time.
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WarpedNaba posted:Remember that you'll never be able to buy a house in Auckland proper. Prices aren't Tokyo bad, but give 'em time. To be honest Wellington prices aren't a whole lot better. A three bedroom in Wellington will set you back $700k+ these days, and for inner city you're looking at $1m+ voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Apr 20, 2018 |
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Apr 20, 2018 07:42
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Apr 20, 2018 07:46
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Auckland loving sucks it's insanely bad to get literally anywhere in because the road system is like a blind mentally disabled caterpillar had a seizure in a bowl of soy sauce then fell on the city planner's map.
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Apr 20, 2018 07:48
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I mean, at least if you get lost in Auckland you can drive back up the street you came down.
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Apr 20, 2018 08:26
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Auckland loving sucks it's insanely bad to get literally anywhere in because the road system is like a blind mentally disabled caterpillar had a seizure in a bowl of soy sauce then fell on the city planner's map. Just live, work and arrange your social life around the train network. It only craps out once or twice a week.
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Apr 20, 2018 08:47
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Captain_Person posted:Just live, work and arrange your social life around the train network. It only craps out once or twice a week. For real, my brother was looking at a house in Kelston, 3br with a section for like 700k and it was like 30mins into the city door to door because it was right by the train station
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Apr 20, 2018 08:58
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I'm expecting to interview for a tech job in Auckland soon, and while it sounds promising, I am not feeling great about the price of rent, and the traffic. 
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Apr 20, 2018 09:06
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Fletchers is hiring for Accounting positions atm - gimme a buzz if you're interested.
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Apr 20, 2018 09:21
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The Rabbi T. White posted:NZ is an amazing country - I prefer Wellington over Auckland, but they're both great cities. The only problem with this place is the cost of living. I really gotta disagree with you here man, we got a lot of problems too. I think there's a lot of good things about NZ but I do feel like we have a lot to work on, and it feels disingenuous to sell it as paradise in 2018 eh
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Apr 20, 2018 09:58
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Are they primarily looking for licensed accountants or creative accountants?
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Apr 20, 2018 10:00
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just popping in to say gently caress Auckland I mean unless you enjoy contemplating suicide on the reg because some useless oval office decided for the umpteenth time to crash and bring traffic around the whole loving region screeching to a halt (even though someone did literally that in Petone today lol) Source: Myself- Wellington liver after having lived in Auckland for ~3 months also,
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Apr 20, 2018 10:03
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The Schwa posted:I really gotta disagree with you here man, we got a lot of problems too. I think there's a lot of good things about NZ but I do feel like we have a lot to work on, and it feels disingenuous to sell it as paradise in 2018 eh As compared to?
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bike tory posted:To be honest Wellington prices aren't a whole lot better. A three bedroom in Wellington will set you back $700k+ these days, and for inner city you're looking at $1m+ I am 30 mins train ride from town (silverstream) I spent around 400k on a 2.5 bedroom home with a pretty good yard a year ago. The house prices are not so bad if you look in the right place, but I get the feeling it's only gonna inflate as people in my position start looking out of the city. I mean, I am old but I have an 18 month old kid so I am competing with cool young 30 year old parents....
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sebmojo posted:As compared to? Yeah this is where my viewpoint was from. We obviously have a poo poo load of problems, but it is comparatively safe, clean and pleasant.
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sebmojo posted:As compared to? We are free to set our own standards to live up to.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:We are free to set our own standards to live up to. yeah but you need to be in a country unless you're going to take to the air and live on the wind like a dandelion or w/e
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Measuring by comparison is dumb because the world as whole is garbage and people too easily believe that "we're better than X" implies that we're fine, when things are far from fine.
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bike tory posted:Measuring by comparison is dumb because the world as whole is garbage and people too easily believe that "we're better than X" implies that we're fine, when things are far from fine. is everything the same as everything else
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sebmojo posted:is everything the same as everything else Yes
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You can acknowledge that NZ is one of the best places in the world to live and that we are all privileged to be able to live here, but also that we are far from perfect and should work on the many issues that we have. These are not mutually exclusive viewpoints, as much as this thread loves to poo poo on NZ.
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We are very much looking forward to being there instead of here in Glorious Nippon, at least. e: in this case the grass is literally greener
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Weatherman posted:We are very much looking forward to being there instead of here in Glorious Nippon, at least. I'm a kiwi but live in Tokyo at the moment and I'm probably moving back (to Welly) later this year. I'm kinda conflicted tbh, I've loved living here but there are a lot of things I'm looking forward to about being back too. It's nice to have two good options I guess Wafflecopper posted:You can acknowledge that NZ is one of the best places in the world to live and that we are all privileged to be able to live here, but also that we are far from perfect and should work on the many issues that we have. These are not mutually exclusive viewpoints, as much as this thread loves to poo poo on NZ. For sure I don't think anyone would disagree. But also the former doesn't excuse the latter, and yet its mostly when people criticise the country that the old "but Australia/USA/whatever is worse!" gets trotted out as though it absolves us. Which is exactly what happened here - someone said "the only problem" with NZ was the cost of living, someone else reminds him there are a bunch of problems, then its "but compared to..." voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Apr 20, 2018 |
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Apr 20, 2018 13:59
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Wafflecopper posted:You can acknowledge that NZ is one of the best places in the world to live and that we are all privileged to be able to live here, but also that we are far from perfect and should work on the many issues that we have. These are not mutually exclusive viewpoints, as much as this thread loves to poo poo on NZ. Absolutely, and to poo poo on New Zealand is not my intention - I've lived here and I've lived not-here, I'm intending to stay for the foreseeable future, and I do think we have it pretty good in a lot of ways. Complacency isn't a good approach though. Just because things are good here in a relative sense, it doesn't mean we don't still have a bunch of social issues that we really need to work on, and which complacency hasn't done much for so far.
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Apr 20, 2018 19:34
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Chch’s tech industry is smaller but on the other hand I have a 5 minute drive to work.
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xiw posted:Chch’s tech industry is smaller but on the other hand I have a 5 minute drive to work. You also live in a city full of people from Christchurch. I'd rather have a 3 hour car-pool commute in a vehicle with the radio stuck on ZB at full volume than suffer through that.
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hey some of us have to move to Christchurch for school 
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