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Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Capitalism is very powerful force of change, it's just not you know, the sustainable end of history or anything. Hating Bill Gates for being an exceptionally rich capitalist that uses some money to solve real problems is missing the point

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FCKGW: May 21, 2006

I mean, I get the whole eat the rich thing and am 100% on board but specifically speaking about Bill Gates he seems to be genuinely dedicated to the missions he and his foundations are taking on. there are much bigger shitheads to be complaining about

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:11

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001

Yinlock posted:

tbf bill gates is one of the least bad billionaires

still a billionaire though

Yeah, doing good things with staggering wealth does not obscure how that wealth was accumulated in the first place, nor at who's expense.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:13

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Capitalism is very powerful force of change, it's just not you know, the sustainable end of history or anything. Hating Bill Gates for being an exceptionally rich capitalist that uses some money to solve real problems is missing the point

i'll stop hating him when he gives up his wealth, until then he's still a billionaire

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:16

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

if bill gates really wanted to raise his tax rate youd think hed be spending some money towards that since he certainly hasnt shied away from donating to and endorsing political candidates and issues. and could possibly mention that microsoft has been one of the biggest-spending lobbiers on corporate tax for decades

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:18

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

a superbillionaire spending down his fortune from astronomical levers to a level where none of his heirs will ever want for anything for generations to clean up their image isnt new it was invented by rockefeller and carnegie a hundred years ago

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:22

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Shear Modulus posted:

if bill gates really wanted to raise his tax rate youd think hed be spending some money towards that since he certainly hasnt shied away from donating to and endorsing political candidates and issues. and could possibly mention that microsoft has been one of the biggest-spending lobbiers on corporate tax for decades

he really thinks he should be paying more though

just you know, not when he actually has to

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:26

Goon Danton: May 24, 2012; Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Shear Modulus posted:

a superbillionaire spending down his fortune from astronomical levers to a level where none of his heirs will ever want for anything for generations to clean up their image isnt new it was invented by rockefeller and carnegie a hundred years ago

Basically every public space here in Pittsburgh is plastered with the name of some robber baron trying to get posterity to associate their names with something other than the homestead strike or whatever, yeah. I fully expect a Gates-Soros University to form as the new Carnegie Mellon.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:37

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Yinlock posted:

i'll stop hating him when he gives up his wealth, until then he's still a billionaire

Well as a said its missing the point because the one certain way capitalism will not be changed or challenged is from individual capitalists giving their money away. You're basically saying you hate capitalists grrrrr you hate all capitalists why don't they stop being capitalists

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:37

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

Goon Danton posted:

Basically every public space here in Pittsburgh is plastered with the name of some robber baron trying to get posterity to associate their names with something other than the homestead strike or whatever, yeah. I fully expect a Gates-Soros University to form as the new Carnegie Mellon.

the newish building for the computer science department at my alma mater is called the bill and melinda gates building despite neither of them having the slightest affiliation with the school

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:39

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Well as a said its missing the point because the one certain way capitalism will not be changed or challenged is from individual capitalists giving their money away. You're basically saying you hate capitalists grrrrr you hate all capitalists why don't they stop being capitalists

that�s...... a hot loving take.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:42

Goon Danton: May 24, 2012; Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

It actually took me a bit to figure out a second name for new CMU. None of the sv nerd capitalists will give a dime to that kind of thing, even to raise their reputations. Musk Thiel University would be a for profit scam college they advertise in banner ads.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:44

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

Goon Danton posted:

It actually took me a bit to figure out a second name for new CMU. None of the sv nerd capitalists will give a dime to that kind of thing, even to raise their reputations. Musk Thiel University would be a for profit scam college they advertise in banner ads.

Obama-Gates University

# ? Apr 20, 2018 19:45

Goon Danton: May 24, 2012; Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

There we go.

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Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Yinlock posted:

i'll stop hating him when he gives up his wealth, until then he's still a billionaire

yinlock really thinks he should be guillotined

just you know, not when he actually has to guillotine him

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Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

Gates-Zuckerberg Charter Academy of Coding

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Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Al! posted:

yinlock really thinks he should be guillotined

right now, along with every other billionaire

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Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

CharlestheHammer posted:

that�s...... a hot loving take.

Capitalism isn't going to end through all the capitalists donating their money to poor people of their own volition? I thought this was a lame statement if anything.

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theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

Shear Modulus posted:

the newish building for the computer science department at my alma mater is called the bill and melinda gates building despite neither of them having the slightest affiliation with the school

I don�t believe you went there because you didn�t name drop it

# ? Apr 20, 2018 20:09

Martin Random: Jul 18, 2003; by FactsAreUseless

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Well as a said its missing the point because the one certain way capitalism will not be changed or challenged is from individual capitalists giving their money away. You're basically saying you hate capitalists grrrrr you hate all capitalists why don't they stop being capitalists

seems pretty clear yinlock hates wealthy billionaires and I agree with him

For some reason your personal cosmology can't accept this concept and you have to change it to "capitalists," either by being willfully obtuse or a deluded victim

# ? Apr 20, 2018 20:12

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Martin Random posted:

seems pretty clear yinlock hates wealthy billionaires and I agree with him

For some reason your personal cosmology can't accept this concept and you have to change it to "capitalists," either by being willfully obtuse or a deluded victim

I don't see what changes when you say wealthy billionaire instead of capitalist.

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Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

lil ben calling for ethnic cleansing

https://twitter.com/vicbergeriv/status/987318836386058240

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Reclines Obesily: Jul 24, 2000; Hey Moona!; Slippery Tilde

drat he must have been a cool 19 year old

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Al!: Apr 2, 2010

im sure the word transfer is def not associated with the holocaust in any way

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Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

"it's not hitler, it's churchill" is a pretty amazing description of what churchill was actually like though

not quite hitler, but not that far off either

# ? Apr 20, 2018 20:31

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yeah, doing good things with staggering wealth does not obscure how that wealth was accumulated in the first place, nor at who's expense.

Mainly Steve Jobs'

# ? Apr 20, 2018 20:36

temple: Jul 29, 2006; I have actual skeletons in my closet

bill gates also wants to destroy public school teachers

# ? Apr 20, 2018 20:37

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Nathan Robinson posted:

Shapiro is referring to the Allied expulsion of German-speakers from Polish territory immediately after World War II, in which �Anywhere from 3.5 million to 9 million Germans were forcibly expelled from the new Polish territory and relocated in Germany.� Shapiro favorably quotes Churchill�s desire that �There will be no mixture of populations to cause endless trouble � a clean sweep will be made.�

There is only one problem with the precedent cited by Shapiro: it is actually a forgotten historic atrocity, which was characterized by mass rape, torture, and murder, and left at least 400,000 people dead. Germans were interned in concentration camps and endured horrific journeys in which pregnant women froze to death. As Tara Zahra explains in a review of R.M. Douglas�s Orderly and Humane: The Expulsion of the Germans After the Second World War:

After the Nazi defeat, the Volksdeutsche fled or were expelled to the West, and were stripped of their citizenship, homes and property in� �the largest forced population transfer�and perhaps the greatest single movement of peoples�in human history.� Douglas amply demonstrates that these population transfers, which were to be carried out in an �orderly and humane� manner according to the language of the Allies� 1945 Potsdam Agreement, counted as neither. Instead�. they were nothing less than a �massive state-sponsored carnival of violence, resulting in a death toll that on the most conservative of estimates must have reached six figures.� �Ironically, then, the postwar population transfers completed a process of segregation and ethnic cleansing that Hitler himself had begun�.Interned women throughout Czechoslovakia and Poland were subject to rampant sexual abuse, rape and torture. Germans were also forced to wear armbands or patches marked with the letter �N� for Nemec (German)�collective payback for the humiliation that the Nazis had inflicted on populations in the East. When they were finally transported west, the expellees traveled by cattle car, sometimes going with barely any food or water for up to two weeks. One victim recalled that each morning, �one or more dead bodies greeted us�they just had to be abandoned on the embankments.�� Douglas concludes by calling the expulsions a �tragic, unnecessary, and, we must resolve, never to be repeated episode in Europe�s and the world�s recent history.�

This is the model that Shapiro believed should be applied to the murderous Arabs. (Perhaps Israel could even have them wear patches with little �A�s on them. But that might seem a little racist, and Shapiro is firmly against racism.) Shapiro has since suggested that his position on ethnic cleansing has evolved (without admitting that he ever endorsed it), in part because large-scale population transfer is simply impractical. His position on the inherent evil of Palestinians, however, does not appear to have softened.

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Dmitri-9: Nov 30, 2004; There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Shear Modulus posted:

microsoft has been one of the biggest-spending lobbiers on corporate tax for decades

Corporations basically have a legal obligation to do poo poo like that on behalf of shareholders.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 21:51

paradoxGentleman: Dec 10, 2013; wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

Dmitri-9 posted:

Corporations basically have a legal obligation to do poo poo like that on behalf of shareholders.

That does not excuse them, and acting as if it did is exaclty what they're counting on to continue doing this poo poo.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 23:25

Baku: Aug 20, 2005; by Fluffdaddy

paradoxGentleman posted:

That does not excuse them, and acting as if it did is exaclty what they're counting on to continue doing this poo poo.

uhm actually my mommy told me the most important thing is obeying the law

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Al!: Apr 2, 2010

the path to socialism is waiting for corporations to step up to the plate and do the right thing

# ? Apr 20, 2018 23:38

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

lil ben calling for ethnic cleansing

https://twitter.com/vicbergeriv/status/987318836386058240

It's not genocide, it's the other unspeakably terrible really bad thing that lands people in the Hague. No big.

# ? Apr 20, 2018 23:39

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Grape posted:

It's not genocide, it's the other unspeakably terrible really bad thing that lands people in the Hague. No big.

also sort of ignores that what Churchill and lots of allied nations did at the time was also legit genocide, we just don't call it that because we won

# ? Apr 20, 2018 23:40

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

Al! posted:

the path to socialism is waiting for corporations to step up to the plate and do the right thing

knock one out of the park!

# ? Apr 20, 2018 23:44

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/986949411547828224?s=19

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Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

shaprio desperately needs to be swirlied

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theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

lol at calling something that happened less than a year after the holocaust �the largest forced relocation of people in human history�

# ? Apr 21, 2018 01:46

temple: Jul 29, 2006; I have actual skeletons in my closet

pillsburysoldier posted:

The Alt Right has been deleting their Unite The Right Streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcoYKuoiUrY

what i don't get is what the top level grifters thought was going to be accomplished by going to that rally.

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theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

temple posted:

what i don't get is what the top level grifters thought was going to be accomplished by going to that rally.

goring, Rosenberg, and Hess were at the beer hall putsch

# ? Apr 21, 2018 02:34

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