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22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Bribe maintenance to rewire the thermostat to be hidden in your office and make hers cosmetic.

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Obsoletely Fabulous
May 6, 2008

Who are you, and why should I care?

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Bribe maintenance to rewire the thermostat to be hidden in your office and make hers cosmetic.

Thankfully the only person I have to argue about thermostats with now is my wife and I just let her have what she wants. Two weeks I’ll be working in an almost hundred year old building so I think I might be in trouble.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Obsoletely Fabulous posted:

Thankfully the only person I have to argue about thermostats with now is my wife and I just let her have what she wants. Two weeks I’ll be working in an almost hundred year old building so I think I might be in trouble.

You'll be in more trouble in the winter when the steam heat clangs on and all of a sudden you're working in a Florida swamp

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Obsoletely Fabulous posted:

Thankfully the only person I have to argue about thermostats with now is my wife and I just let her have what she wants. Two weeks I’ll be working in an almost hundred year old building so I think I might be in trouble.

Just daisy chain power strips until you can reach your desk, then plug in a space heater and portable AC unit.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

gently caress I wish it was all just computers.
In my experience it's anything that runs on electricity.
...and furniture.

Preach it, brother.

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

The Iron Rose posted:

If it was over ~5000 api calls Google probably rate limited your account. you can get around this by setting up multiple gsuite admins by feeding multiple oauth2.txt files into your script. For only a few hundred groups... might be worth expanding the amount of GAM threads to 20 rather than the default 5?

https://github.com/jay0lee/GAM/wiki/BulkOperations

^^ the wiki has a very good teardown of a way to parallelize (parallelise?) large operations too.

A lot of the slowness was certainly my lack of scripting ability. I also left that company 6 months ago, so it doesn't matter now. I do miss G Suite though. Before I left I passed it to the parent companies IT. Someone there rewrote it with .NET or something. I'm sure it's much faster than what I had. Of course mine took an afternoon to write, and there's took weeks.

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

gently caress I wish it was all just computers.
In my experience it's anything that runs on electricity.
...and furniture.

:same:

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

gently caress I wish it was all just computers.
In my experience it's anything that runs on electricity.
...and furniture.

This reminds me of the senior helpdesk person at my previous job and how he would tell a story:

:byodame:: Guys, the toilet is broken, can you please fix it.
:nono:: Sorry, this is the IT helpdesk, please talk to the office department so they can get a plumber in here
:byodame:: But I really need you to fix it
:nono:: Nope, talk to office
:byodame:: *proceeds to cry and throw a literal tantrum*

Apparently she had some issues outside of work and this was the last straw

I am not helpdesk anymore so the only thing I troubleshoot is whatever coffee machine gives me trouble when I try to get coffee out of it.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Sprechensiesexy posted:

I am not helpdesk anymore so the only thing I troubleshoot is whatever coffee machine gives me trouble when I try to get coffee out of it.

This is an important job that I also take upon myself.

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ChubbyThePhat posted:

This is an important job that I also take upon myself.

The coffee machines here are nice, but the grounds reservoir is really small so you end up emptying the grounds a lot. But since it takes beans so I'm very tempted to get a bag of kopi luwak and leave a note saying "You are now drinking civet poo poo coffee"

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I’ve worked a lot of places that had poo poo coffee :v:

Yes, I know what it is

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

gently caress I wish it was all just computers.
In my experience it's anything that runs on electricity.
...and furniture.

My favorite here was when people asked me to test the backup generator for the building and maintain it because "well, IT needs their systems more than anyone here!"

No, I have a laptop and all our servers have more than one UPS. Your warehouse freezers and poo poo need power way sooner than I do.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

22 Eargesplitten posted:

I’ve worked a lot of places that had poo poo coffee :v:

Yes, I know what it is

It's actually pretty good. More just stating this as an opinion that aiming to disprove the quote here.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
When the QA department asks you the Okta admin and general IT guy if they're following their own SOPs with regards to their own validated GxP system....

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

gently caress I wish it was all just computers.
In my experience it's anything that runs on electricity.
...and furniture.

I used to work for a casino. I got a phone message from the gift shop that said "This is the gift shop, I need help! It's an emergency!"

I called back twice but got no answer.

So I called security and asked them for a huge favor, and had them arrange for a security guard and a medic to meet me at the gift shop, saying that they'd been told that there was an emergency in the gift shop. (Basically, security knew it was probably nothing, but they were bored and sympathetic.)

Turns out it was just cigarettes ringing up at the wrong price.

The point is I guess, if you leave a frantic phone call saying only that there's an emergency, you'd better be bleeding or on fire.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

gently caress I wish it was all just computers.
In my experience it's anything that runs on electricity.
...and furniture.

Used to have a coworker who did his best to play maintenance man. We'd have people come to the helpdesk when their personal vehicles were having trouble. I know he changed at least one flat tire.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




The Iron Rose posted:

isn't it lovely when the first thing you do to fix a problem actually works?

Always give it a chance to be simple. If it is, you look like a wizard. If it isn't, wasting a few minutes up front is meaningless.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

Sirotan posted:

Used to have a coworker who did his best to play maintenance man. We'd have people come to the helpdesk when their personal vehicles were having trouble. I know he changed at least one flat tire.
I'm more on board with that than changing the tire on a company vehicle.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Some days I'm a highly paid furniture mover, but I get free food when I do it so it balances out.

Too Poetic
Nov 28, 2008

Sprechensiesexy posted:

This reminds me of the senior helpdesk person at my previous job and how he would tell a story:

:byodame:: Guys, the toilet is broken, can you please fix it.
:nono:: Sorry, this is the IT helpdesk, please talk to the office department so they can get a plumber in here
:byodame:: But I really need you to fix it
:nono:: Nope, talk to office
:byodame:: *proceeds to cry and throw a literal tantrum*

Apparently she had some issues outside of work and this was the last straw

I am not helpdesk anymore so the only thing I troubleshoot is whatever coffee machine gives me trouble when I try to get coffee out of it.

At my current helpdesk job, if there is an issue with a broken toilet they actually have to call/email in and we create a ticket for the admin department to fix it. it's loving stupid and I'm glad they are working on getting rid of it with our new ITSM.

Darchangel posted:

Preach it, brother.

If I never have to troubleshoot another international faxing issue it will be far too soon.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer
Triggered :trumppop:

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
We're trying to hire our first ITSM right now. Can't wait as I'm tiring of stepping up and filling in for the role. What's triggering about it?

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

Ranter posted:

We're trying to hire our first ITSM right now. Can't wait as I'm tiring of stepping up and filling in for the role. What's triggering about it?
Because for every manager who thinks ITSM and ITIL are a framework that can be adopted and adapted to suit whatever line of business you're in and improve your IT department, the are 65536 managers who think ITIL manuals are law books that must be implemented to the letter. I have personally never seen ITIL implemented in a way that left a lasting, positive impact on an IT department. I have seen it shoved down employees' throats by managers with no previous IT management experience and with throbbing boners for KPI's and process control, then abandoned a year later because it crashed the whole department.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


Aunt Beth posted:

Because for every manager who thinks ITSM and ITIL are a framework that can be adopted and adapted to suit whatever line of business you're in and improve your IT department, the are 65536 managers who think ITIL manuals are law books that must be implemented to the letter. I have personally never seen ITIL implemented in a way that left a lasting, positive impact on an IT department. I have seen it shoved down employees' throats by managers with no previous IT management experience and with throbbing boners for KPI's and process control, then abandoned a year later because it crashed the whole department.

I see what you did there.

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Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
I sat through 20 minutes of a 4 hour ITIL training course before closing the browser and walking away from my computer. How anyone can parrot such marketing horseshit with a straight face to someone is beyond me.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Executives make a lot of money and it's a step up that ladder. If I can't change the game, I might as well play it.

If asking "what are our deliverables?" makes me more of a leader than "what do you want from me?", then sure, I'll noun some verbs. Just tell me what your ask is.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Executives make a lot of money and it's a step up that ladder. If I can't change the game, I might as well play it.

If asking "what are our deliverables?" makes me more of a leader than "what do you want from me?", then sure, I'll noun some verbs. Just tell me what your ask is.
The same hapless manager who is trying to do our current ITIL/ITSM project has also started using "solution" as a verb. As in, "Let's solution that issue offline. Once we have an outline we can socialize it and put in an ask for funding"

I want to throttle him.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

Aunt Beth posted:

The same hapless manager who is trying to do our current ITIL/ITSM project has also started using "solution" as a verb. As in, "Let's solution that issue offline. Once we have an outline we can socialize it and put in an ask for funding"

I want to throttle him.
We use solution as a derogatory verb. As in, "that dumbass is trying to solution the wrong problem."

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


The whole incident/problem/change/config/etc management ideas aren’t bad. The fact that 99% of it’s implementations are designed and/or managed by complete retards is what makes them bad. It’s the main cause for shadow IT. Make peoples standard work too difficult/frustrating to do and surprise surprise, they start working around it.

I’m glad I don’t have to deal with that level of BS anymore.

high six
Feb 6, 2010
:yotj: Got a job offer for a big big raise and I can get out of this sinking shitheap of a job I am currently stuck in. Working with Azure related stuff of which I only have basic knowledge but they promised to train me so hopefully that wasn't a lie.

A few months back the board brought in some fancy new executive. First thing she did was fire the CIO and replace him with one of her friends. Now the layoffs have started. I've kind of been checked out for a year because I've automated pretty much everything I do and stupid office politics have stymied any of my efforts to improve the place. Final straw was discovering that a new site was put in without anyone being notified, six months after a big manager meeting where it was said that they are going to crack down on this bullshit, and no one has faced any consequences. The only reason I found out about the site was when I started getting tickets about said site being down.

high six fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Apr 23, 2018

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

LochNessMonster posted:

The whole incident/problem/change/config/etc management ideas aren’t bad. The fact that 99% of it’s implementations are designed and/or managed by complete retards is what makes them bad. It’s the main cause for shadow IT. Make peoples standard work too difficult/frustrating to do and surprise surprise, they start working around it.

I’m glad I don’t have to deal with that level of BS anymore.

We did an ITIL course and our takeaway was we already use the relevant parts and the rest doesn't apply to us.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I took an ITIL course and my takeaway was catered BBQ for lunch, two and a half days away from tickets, and a cert that is kind of useful on the resume.

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




Nobody remembers that the L in ITIL is Library, and you can't/shouldn't implement EVERYTHING

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Papa John Misty posted:

Nobody remembers that the L in ITIL is Library, and you can't/shouldn't implement EVERYTHING

My trainer for ITIL said one situation he absolutely hates is when he comes in as a consultant and the manager has a stack of ITIL books on their desk. Apparently it is always a sign of what the trainer called "Death by ITIL."

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
If you need more than ITIL Foundation because you can't figure out what to do after having the concepts explained to you, moving ahead with any other part of implementation is a really bad idea.

The best ITIL implementation guide was The Visible Ops Handbook, which was a pamphlet half a centimeter thick. Unsurprisingly, the authors went on to write The Phoenix Project.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
how are there multiple 1000+ page books about "uh...maybe we should start doing the IT and then continue doing the IT"

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Thom and the Heads posted:

how are there multiple 1000+ page books about "uh...maybe we should start doing the IT and then continue doing the IT"
Because it's easier to regurgitate information about your castle of dream processes than actually teaching businesspeople how to strategize, map their value chains, and make IT a business partner instead of a customer service cost center.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Don't do IT, is my recommendation

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Vulture Culture posted:

Because it's easier to regurgitate information about your castle of dream processes than actually teaching businesspeople how to strategize, map their value chains, and make IT a business partner instead of a customer service cost center.

woah woah woah, slow the gently caress down there Tex

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YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

CLAM DOWN posted:

Don't do IT, is my recommendation

Put it in a book and I’ll buy it and give a copy to everyone we interview.

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