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VanSandman posted:Maya used to rule Incubus’ 7th of existence, right? Probably but not confirmed IIRC
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Apr 22, 2018 00:38
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Its pretty well confirmed That pile of empty wine goblets didn't just drink themselves
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Apr 22, 2018 00:44
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Shugojin posted:Probably but not confirmed IIRC I had thought that the current system of 7 demiurges ruling 1/7 of existence only started after these 7 kicked the asses of the million other demiurges who tried to take over after Zoss quit.
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Apr 22, 2018 00:44
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Eschatos posted:I had thought that the current system of 7 demiurges ruling 1/7 of existence only started after these 7 kicked the asses of the million other demiurges who tried to take over after Zoss quit. Then... how hosed is TIME on the wheel? Because we saw Zoss fuckin’ die not too long ago (the start of the comic).
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Apr 22, 2018 00:47
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VanSandman posted:Then... how hosed is TIME on the wheel? Because we saw Zoss fuckin’ die not too long ago (the start of the comic). It is possible to quit your job while alive.
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Apr 22, 2018 00:51
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VanSandman posted:Maya used to rule Incubus’ 7th of existence, right? Well, we don't know any other fat, washed up drunks of note. What's more impressive: to plunge the Wheel into war and lead your army to the top of the heap of corpses, or to walk away afterwards?
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Apr 22, 2018 00:53
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Eschatos posted:I had thought that the current system of 7 demiurges ruling 1/7 of existence only started after these 7 kicked the asses of the million other demiurges who tried to take over after Zoss quit. It was my understanding that they didn't kick the assess of all the other demiurges, and in fact that they were some of the weaker ones in the very beginning, but they got some of them through guile, cunning, and regular ol' corpse looting as well. So they aren't necessarily the most powerful, just the ones who survived until the end.
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Apr 22, 2018 01:06
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Who What Now posted:It was my understanding that they didn't kick the assess of all the other demiurges, and in fact that they were some of the weaker ones in the very beginning, but they got some of them through guile, cunning, and regular ol' corpse looting as well. So they aren't necessarily the most powerful, just the ones who survived until the end. Hell, we know that Mammon actually bought his key. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out who he got it from before the end of this arc.
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Apr 22, 2018 01:40
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I think that Hrotomos is a little bummed that Mottom stole his move and kool-aided the wall with a whole city
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Apr 22, 2018 01:56
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Begemot posted:Hell, we know that Mammon actually bought his key. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out who he got it from before the end of this arc. Right, which means there was a Demiurge that just said "gently caress it, I'm done" and retired to his own pleasure planet he bought with his shitzillion mammon-bucks. I'm guessing Maya was something similar, I like to imagine she just upped and left one day without telling anyone and Incubus just happened to be the one to find the key.
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Apr 22, 2018 02:06
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one of those guys appears to be a literal ninja turtle.
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Apr 22, 2018 02:07
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Dr Cheeto posted:Layla Brimstone rides her rifle like a goddamn broom, I'm screaming I swear we'd seen this before.
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Apr 22, 2018 02:46
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Bilirubin posted:So, when the pursuers asked who Maya was after Jug Star rolled off, did she tell them? Are they now her army of idiots? Whether she told them or not, she more or less got the idea across and usurped Eris-Lo Kai as the grand marshal of the Parade. GreyjoyBastard posted:I swear we'd seen this before. I think we saw it before during the fight at Mottom's pad, but she was riding side-saddle then or something. Now she's full-on wicked witch mode and it's great.
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Apr 22, 2018 03:44
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Begemot posted:Hell, we know that Mammon actually bought his key. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out who he got it from before the end of this arc. And Mottom got hers through shanking her husband in his sleep. It's doubtful any save Jagganoth really fought their way to the top of the heap. I get the feeling whoever Mammon bought his from didn't last long afterwards
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Apr 22, 2018 04:54
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Who What Now posted:Right, which means there was a Demiurge that just said "gently caress it, I'm done" and retired to his own pleasure planet he bought with his shitzillion mammon-bucks.
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Apr 22, 2018 05:17
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i appreciate that while the rest of the 108 pose like a team (because this poo poo just got real) auntie maya looks a little bored, because poo poo has been realer for her than these clowns can imagine.
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Apr 22, 2018 05:28
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:And Mottom got hers through shanking her husband in his sleep. It's doubtful any save Jagganoth really fought their way to the top of the heap.
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Apr 22, 2018 05:29
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PetraCore posted:I'm pretty sure Maya absolutely fought her way up to the top of the heap, and disliked it. I think they were only counting the current demiurges, not past-but-still-living ones.
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Apr 22, 2018 05:36
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Count Uvula posted:I think they were only counting the current demiurges, not past-but-still-living ones. As for Maya, I'm pretty sure Abaddon has said at some point that there used to be several floating city/moons around Throne and that Auntie Maya grew up on one of them. Notably, they no longer exist after the war and some of them might actually have been used as gigantic ballistic weapons? So.
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Apr 22, 2018 05:38
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its gotta be a little weird to have had your childhood home used as a one-off artillery weapon
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Apr 22, 2018 05:44
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Whether she told them or not, she more or less got the idea across and usurped Eris-Lo Kai as the grand marshal of the Parade. I like to think that that's how Maya became the leader of the Middle army originally. There's always a parade of fools chasing after something.
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Apr 22, 2018 05:53
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wonder why they call it the middle army maybe they kept getting caught between hammer and anvil and being hard enough to break both
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Apr 22, 2018 05:58
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Oskar's choice of earring is perfectly in character 
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Tollymain posted:its gotta be a little weird to have had your childhood home used as a one-off artillery weapon
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Apr 22, 2018 06:38
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Tollymain posted:wonder why they call it the middle army Well, given symbol is the mandarin character for 'middle'... China called itself 'zhong guo', or as many english speakers knew it, the 'Middle Kingdom'. More accurately translated, it would be the 'Central Kingdom'. Because at that point in time China viewed itself as being the absolute centre of the world and everyone else as interesting sideshows at best. Not sure if Abbadon was deliberately aiming for that with the Middle Army thing, but just a bit of trivia.
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Apr 22, 2018 07:11
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that makes much more sense than what i said
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:And Mottom got hers through shanking her husband in his sleep. It's doubtful any save Jagganoth really fought their way to the top of the heap. Jadis was the most powerful magic user before she went and preserved herself in acrylic after looking at the shape of the universe. But she also had a cult of personality around her that became the weirdo priesthood that carries her around everywhere and manages her affairs in her indisposition, so it was probably part charisma, and part the leveraging of her mystical power that brought her to being a demiurge. With Solomon David, it was probably a similar combination of charisma and might, but instead of magic, of more conventional (if still outrageously anime) martial skill. Gog-Agog must have been mostly through charisma and subterfuge, given that she is essentially in control of Throne's Hollywood. You probably don't punch your way to the top of that, though we can't rule this out. We've been told she's one of the hardest creatures to kill in the K6BD universe, but it's not clear that she directly can apply much force, mystical or martial. But we also haven't really seen her put up her dukes, so who knows?
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idk if id call gog-agog charismatic ive been figuring its a "let's just... let the unkillable world-shattering demigod be the top star because they might become (more) unhappy otherwise"
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Abbadon's Tumblr has the following to say on the abilities of the demiurges; the last part, on Gog-Agog, is particularly relevant here:quote:You already did a relative power ranking on each of the Seven. I was wondering where they fell on the Melee-Magic-(Tech?) side of fighting. Mottom is shown using a lot of magic (since she is older than dirt.) and you've sort of hinted at Jag leaning more towards beating you to death. Where do the others fit, both now and during the Universal War? quote:They’re all badass martial arts sorcerer kings. I think Mottom in her youth could probably bust out some serious kung fu. I may still have her do that, it’s just not in her character at the moment. Gog-Agog is not a pushover. What she is is unclear exactly, but, yeah. "Would be the strongest", without a "besides Jagganoth" qualifier and even saying that he'd have a hard time with her, says a lot. She's also the oldest of the group, by far. I'm looking forward to seeing more of her. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Apr 22, 2018 |
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Apr 22, 2018 08:43
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If you're a pile of worms, your best bet against against a bunch of muscle wizards would be to cram some worms up their nose to chew up their insides. But also, she has a bad rear end scythe.
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Apr 22, 2018 10:35
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i hope gog-agog has developed a unique martial art made to exploit their body of worms, and the scythe is an integral part
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Tollymain posted:idk if id call gog-agog charismatic I'm thinking she's rupert murdoch.
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Demiurge4 posted:Oskar's choice of earring is perfectly in character So true, but everything about Oskar's design is perfect 
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Apr 22, 2018 15:24
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Begemot posted:I'm pretty sure the monk with power fists right behind Hrotomos is also new. Nah, he's been with the burning stars since minute one. Check out the right hand side of this spread, just above the inset of Maya.
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Apr 22, 2018 15:53
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god, i love that hell 71 was such a fuckin wretched hive of villainy that the moment the patrons learn a key is in the building they end up in a massive kung fu standoff and then they murder the everloving poo poo out of each other
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Apr 22, 2018 16:00
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Have we had any explanation why devils seem to have little part in this? Yab seems to be the only one with any real
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Apr 22, 2018 16:58
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An ebon devil got publicly owned on their home turf, plus my theory is devils are total fuckers and thrive on the chaos... Like, Oscar is probably a good example, Devils don't go direct for power they're happy to walk over the pulverized and bloody red carpet of morons who do, picking the choicest bits from the wreckage. A devil wouldn't be Hitler but they'd for sure steal all the nazi-gold at the end of his reign for example. As a race they seem to hate tall poppies like Yabs
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Apr 22, 2018 17:03
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I see what looks to be a red devil just below Hrotomos.
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hey girl you up posted:Have we had any explanation why devils seem to have little part in this? Yab seems to be the only one with any real
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Devils long to test and refine their self-identity. Most of the demiurges seems to have lost theirs beneath the power of their keys.
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