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everyone should start with an ump, and also every should start on the ground on a motorcycle which cannot be dismounted. also all games are now duos (1 motorcycle) but you can swap places by doing the donkey kong country swap places slap
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Did you not read this update about the level 3 helmets? Where they said they "don't want who wins to be down to luck alone"? or the recent interview where he said anyone who dies to the red zone is not a good player? ...but your example has nothing to do with winning being "down to luck alone". That they are reducing the influence of luck on the outcome of the game does not mean it must have no impact at all.
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cargohills posted:...but your example has nothing to do with winning being "down to luck alone". That they are reducing the influence of luck on the outcome of the game does not mean it must have no impact at all. -no items -fox only -final destination 
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cargohills posted:...but your example has nothing to do with winning being "down to luck alone". That they are reducing the influence of luck on the outcome of the game does not mean it must have no impact at all. So if two people land next to each other and one gets a gun, that's not luck? Especially if the weapons spawn AFTER they land. That seems like luck to me. As in, a huge part of this game is luck/rng so why they're saying they want to get rid of luck being a thing seems pretty stupid. One guy goes to a building and gets a kar98 and an 8x, another goes to a building and only gets a pistol, that's not luck? A lot of this game is luck is what I'm saying. And trying to eliminate it by getting rid of level 3 helmets seems like some really faulty leaps of logic.
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An element of something being somewhat or even truly random has nothing to do with luck. Luck is the misunderstanding of probability taken personally.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:So if two people land next to each other and one gets a gun, that's not luck? Especially if the weapons spawn AFTER they land. That seems like luck to me. As in, a huge part of this game is luck/rng so why they're saying they want to get rid of luck being a thing seems pretty stupid. One guy goes to a building and gets a kar98 and an 8x, another goes to a building and only gets a pistol, that's not luck? I think the counterargument here is that choosing to land directly next to hostile players is a calculated risk, not random luck. You are playing chicken with them to see who gets a real gun and aggressively pushes the other player first. It's also not a game anyone has to play and there are tactical ways to exit or avoid that situation at any point in time right up until you get killed. The pistol guy who gets his dome blown off trying to pop the guy with the Kar98 in a second floor window didn't die because he was unlucky. A lot of PUBG is about smartly navigating the conditions that are dealt to you, rather than other games where everyone is given essentially same conditions and victory comes down to whoever has the tightest execution. The conditions are random but smart players will always tend to get better results. The level 3 helmets being only in crates is a similar situation. Currently you can stumble onto a level 3 helmet almost anywhere, but in this potential change you will have to make a deliberate decision to secure one, and take the risk of crate chasing to do so. It's arguable that there is still a lot of "luck" involved in being close to a crate when it lands or not having competition for its contents, but it's a lot less random than just finding one on the floor somewhere. Better players who make smarter proactive decisions will end up with level 3 helmets more often than those who do not. Scoss fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Apr 22, 2018 |
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okay unironically if you're dying to red zone you're either a really bad player or insanely unlucky just get in a loving house and wait it out, jesus e: also "you can get one almost anywhere" loving lol are you kidding me, there's usually a single-digit number of lv3 helmets on the entire map outside of packages
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Apr 22, 2018 02:25
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I still often seem to manage getting one shot headshot 360 sniped even with a L3 helmet on so what does it matter. I don't even seriously worry about what tier gear I have most rounds. Just run with whatever and hopefully shoot mans before they shoot me. I've dumped like 500 hours in over a year and am still terrible though so what do I know.
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Apr 22, 2018 02:33
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Yeah this feels like a weird change requested by...I'm not even sure who? Slippery slope too because the KAR is easily the best secondary gun in the game and if everyone except the select few are ohk it's going to turn into a mess
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Apr 22, 2018 02:55
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one time I was driving through a redzone and I got blown up it made me laugh
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Apr 22, 2018 03:07
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Putting the peak defensive and offensive items in one spot seems like an astoundingly bad idea
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Apr 22, 2018 03:23
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Make Kar crate only. Drop more crates.
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Just watch, instead of rolling back the l3-crate-only thing they're instead going to make the kar98 not knock someone in a L2 helmet.
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is there a thread on this forum for people who like the game?
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Kar is a lot less effective when players don't stand still at all. If you have to shoot a moving player, then both the mini and the sks(or an m416... There is a reason some players will run two M416s, one with a scope and silencer and one with a comp and red dot) are better for that. Also once you are down to the top 10-20, those players tend to be the better players and so will likely not be standing still like idiots.... Sometimes anyways.
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Yes giving the poo poo guns mods you can't harvest would change them up without fooling with their dps, I think that's a great idea. The VSS is already a very extreme example of this.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yes giving the poo poo guns mods you can't harvest would change them up without fooling with their dps, I think that's a great idea. The VSS is already a very extreme example of this. On the other hand the VSS owns.
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The best VSS is a fully kitted Vector.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:okay unironically if you're dying to red zone you're either a really bad player or insanely unlucky While I agree with the second part of your post, the first part is amazingly wrong. If dying to red zones makes you a bad player, I guess shroud is just a bad player.
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Even as the #1 Vektor-lover in the thread, I will never run the Vektor again if the Helmet 3 change goes through with no headshot breakpoints altered. It's a good gun, but you can't run it with a Kar98 and being able to oneshot 90% of the players instead of 50% is massive.
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big nipples big life posted:is there a thread on this forum for people who like the game? People act like lvl 3 helmets and kar98 headshots is what made them like the game in the first place.
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Rubberduke posted:People act like lvl 3 helmets and kar98 headshots is what made them like the game in the first place. There's no reason I can see to limit there to being, at most, 5 level 3 helmets in a game, and that's if every single crate drop is accessible and each has a helmet in it. Like, am I just playing a different game than everyone else and there just were too many level 3 helmets? Too few Kar98 oneshots? It just seems to be a change that came out of nowhere and cannot have a positive impact on the game.
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Accretionist posted:I don't understand why so many people suicide via blue for no reason I queued to one of those 8-man event modes and literally half my team died to the first blue zone. They looted the Mansion, then moved to Yasnaya and spent at least a solid minute after the first blue zone closed looting it. One of the randoms and I had a buggy and 3-person bike and we were trying to get them to move. We managed to get two people out of the blue and the other four refused to enter our vehicles and instead went on to looting. The safe zone wasn't exactly close to them. A while later they died running.
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The new 8 man mode rules. All my friends can finally get into same squad and the games are crazy loot fests. We drop to military base and get four flares, then people argue who gets to carry the double AWM... Hopefully this 8 man mode will return some day.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:
L3 Helmets can spawn anywhere. I didn't say you can pluck one off the helmet tree every game. They are obviously rare (though it is curious that you can reliably observe them become concentrated in the hands of the surviving players as the game reaches the final circles). I don't even particularly have a strong opinion on whether it will be a positive change or not. They have an apparent desire to reduce the role of RNG in combat outcomes and this seems consistent with that goal.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:e: also "you can get one almost anywhere" loving lol are you kidding me, there's usually a single-digit number of lv3 helmets on the entire map outside of packages This is just plain wrong. Military Base alone will usually have 3-4, sometimes more.
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The thing with random spawn Lvl3s is that you can eventually get one by just looting more, including by looting people you murder. If you're just never in the vicinity of a drop then there isn't anything you can really do. It's not like you can just drive to where the plane will eventually drop one, it might always drop 2KM away until the last crate drops and everyone's geared up and waiting to murder whoever goes for it.
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y'all are some whiney fuckers
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:eliminate You know there's a middle ground between "luck has zero influence on this game" and "the winner is literally chosen out of a hat", right?
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cargohills posted:You know there's a middle ground between "luck has zero influence on this game" and "the winner is literally chosen out of a hat", right? Wasn't that exactly the point of the post you're replying to? I for one am happy about the gun rebalancing, at leat. I never even pick up the Aug unless I didn't find an m416 yet.
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pubg is dead, get your practice in the newest BR game before everyone gets good http://www.surviv.io/
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:If dying to red zones makes you a bad player, I guess shroud is just a bad player. I'm willing to concede that he might just be getting hilariously unlucky but I'm a loving awful player and red zone has never killed me
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I never hid until one day, I randomly exploded.
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Helmet change is good, embrace the Kar.Harry Potter on Ice posted:pubg is dead, get your practice in the newest BR game before everyone gets good This isn't Radical Heights. Vaah fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Apr 22, 2018 |
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:pubg is dead, get your practice in the newest BR game before everyone gets good can you imagine if PUBG had random maps
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Real talk, a lot of the pros/streamers stopped using the KAR because there are so many down sides to it. I wonder if they could have tried dropping the spawn percentage down drastically before eliminating it from the spawn table completely first. I mean, if people are actively turning down a KAR to run dual M4s it tells you something, doesn’t it? It’s been easier to double headshot someone with a scoped M4 than to KAR them once because of bullet velocity and drop.
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VulgarandStupid posted:Real talk, a lot of the pros/streamers stopped using the KAR because there are so many down sides to it. I wonder if they could have tried dropping the spawn percentage down drastically before eliminating it from the spawn table completely first. I mean, if people are actively turning down a KAR to run dual M4s it tells you something, doesn’t it? It’s been easier to double headshot someone with a scoped M4 than to KAR them once because of bullet velocity and drop. Maybe it's good that the Kar98 isn't objectively the best non-crate weapon. If bluehole really wants to balance weapons they shouldn't make the Kar a must-have in every loadout. The logic behind the helmet change makes no sense. A lvl3 is too powerful to be gained through random chance. The same can be said for the kar if there is a shortage of those lvl3s on the map. Loot RNG can grant you a Kar but won't grant you the defence.
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You don't have to do anything special to put a L3 helmet to use beyond get shot in the head. Landing Kar headshots conversely is not trivial for most people. They're okay with letting people randomly find the gun that requires some skill to use, and less okay with letting people randomly find the helmet that Just Works, that doesn't seem inconsistent to me.
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