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Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CommonShore posted:

Thanks! Does that include even UI/quality of life mods which don't interact with textures or whatever?

I find it really frustrating that the only way to get the DLC is to buy the special edition package for 50 (25 right now) bucks. I'll probably just go back to hunting the old orc and killing him and turning him into a zombie and dumping him in the river.

Just buy the DLC, dude. Hearthfire is kinda silly, but it adds a lot of random stuff to the game, and the two story DLCs are both good.

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CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Randaconda posted:

Just buy the DLC, dude. Hearthfire is kinda silly, but it adds a lot of random stuff to the game, and the two story DLCs are both good.

fake edit: I found where the DLC stuff is on the Steam store, and I added it to my wish list for when it goes on sale.

The problem I was having was that I couldn't find -just- the DLC and I didn't want to rebuy the base game, becuase I'm stubborn and goony.

Deific Presence
May 7, 2007
So I suck at load order, this is what LOOT gave me and I could use some help sorting it into something that will actually run. Using SSE, btw.

quote:

Can somebody help me out with my Skyrim SE load order? This is after using LOOT but before using Wyrebash

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm=1
Unique Flowers & Plants.esm=1
FISS.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
unofficial skyrim survival patch.esp=1
SurvivalConfig.esp=1
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp=1
ClassicClasses.esp=1
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1
Subtle but Classless - Imperious.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp=1
Ordinator Elysian Shield Patch.esp=1
Multiple Enchantments - Ordinator Patch.esp=1
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1
SimplePaladin.esp=1
Better Spell Learning.esp=1
Better Spell Learning - Apocalypse SE Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Alchemy Fixed - Ordinator.esp=1
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1
SAF - Summermyst.esp=1
Zim's Fortify Enchantments.esp=1
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1
CCB_AndromedaPatch.esp=1
MA-DiversifiedDivines.esp=1
PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
rotmulaag.esp=1
RotmulaagThunderchild.esp=1
Shout.esp=1
PermanentLegendaryBonus.esp=1
Sustained Magic.esp=1
Classic Elder Scrolls Attributes Lite.esp=1
ArcheryV2.esp=1
TrueArmor.esp=1
ResearchInSkyrim.esp=1
RIS-Thunderchild Patch.esp=1
True Scholar.esp=1
EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp=1
EconomyOverhaulandOrdinatorPatch.esp=1
FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp=1
HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp=1
HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp=1
ImmersiveOreMines.esp=1
DigUpDragonBones.esp=1
WhitePhialBetterAlignments.esp=1
Perk Point Awards.esp=1
Hunterborn.esp=1
Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp=1
Hunterborn Survival Patch.esp=1
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
More Bear-Like Werebears.esp=1
DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp=1
CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
ForgottenCity.esp=1
Folkstead.esp=1
ASLAL-Folkstead-plugin.esp=1
Jehanna.esp=1
ASLAL-Haafstad-plugin.esp=1
Nyhus.esp=1
ASLAL-Nyhus-plugin.esp=1
notice board.esp=1
notice board - better solstheim quests.esp=1
Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp=1
Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Character.esp=1
WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp=1
TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp=1
Serio's Enhanced Dragons.esp=1
AdventurersAndTravelers.esp=1
RLO - Interiors.esp=1
EastmarchOreVeins.esp=1
GoodHunting.esp=1
SkyTEST-Settings.esp=1
beltfastenedquivers.esp=1
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
RLO - Exteriors.esp=1
AAE Ultimate Edition.esp=1
AAE_PerkPointAwards_Patch.esp=1
WICO - Immersive People.esp=1
AAE_WICO_Patch.esp=1
MoreWerewolves.esp=1
Storefront.esp=1
Holidays.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
NAT.esp=1
TrueStormsSE.esp=1
TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
CFTO-Lanterns.esp=1
BoatTravel.esp=1
Boat Travel - Dragonborn.esp=1
Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1
Provincial Courier Service.esp=1
Motte & Bailey.esp=1
Rervun - Build Your Starter House - Reach.esp=1
Rervun - Build Your Starter House - Rift.esp=1
Rervun - Build Your Starter House.esp=1
Rervun - Build Your Starter House - Winterhold.esp=1
HeljarchenFarm.esp=1
testmine.esp=1
WindstadMine.esp=1
Man Those Borders!.esp=1
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp=1
Dawnguard Sentries SE.esp=1
HoldBorderBanners.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp=1
tpos_altstart_02.esp=1
frozenintime.esp=1
SkyrimIsWindy-HarvestOverhaul-Patch.esp=1
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp=1
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1
SkyTEST-HarderCreatures.esp=1
AAE_STHC_Patch.esp=1
Mortal Enemies.esp=1
AAE_MortalEnemies_Patch.esp=1
KS Dragon Overhaul.esp=1
Rebalanced Leveled Lists.esp=1
Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp=1
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp=1
Athletik Combat SSE.esp=1
Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp=1
OBIS SE.esp=1
AAE_OBIS_Patch.esp=1
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp=1
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp=1
OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp=1
RLO - Effects.esp=1
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=1
NAT_TS_Patch_EerieSkies.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp=1
AAE_STRAP_Patch.esp=1
HearthFires Roads.esp=1
Zim's Improved Dremora.esp=1
tpos_rlo_exteriors_patch_01.esp=1
Marco's Meals.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1
AccurateFastTravelTime.esp=1
SurvivalConfig - AS-LAL Patch.esp=1
DivinationSkill.esp=1
SurvivalConfig - CRF Patch.esp=1
ogSplendorDragons.esp=1
SurvivalConfig - Heljarchen Farm Patch.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
SurvivalConfig - BS Bruma Patch.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
specialeditionfollowers.esp=1
garm_ghost.esp=1
Road to Morthal.esp=1
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp=1
ShocksSaltMinesofSkyrim.esp=1
Landscape For Grass Mods -Provincial Courier PATCH.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
SL99Exchanger.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
tpos_immersive_clit_patch_01.esp=1
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp=1
RDO - iAFT Patch.esp=1
BecomeABard.esp=1
AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp=1
AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp=1
PyP_LE+CRF.esp=1
RLO - CRF Patch.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
3dnpc - Overhual.esp=1
OH GOD BEES.esp=1
CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp=1
CollegeStudents.esp=1
CRF - Lighting Overhaul.esp=1
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Snowy AF Windhelm.esp=1
Riften Eastern Road.esp=1
Training Dummies XP.esp=1
Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp=1
CoinPurseIncrease.esp=1
GuildStarter.esp=1
Radiant quest reward perk point.esp=1
Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=1
CoTV2SSEE_CPAOFS_Patch.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
Ars Metallica.esp=1
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp=1
SmithingOils.esp=1
mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp=1
Do You Know Who I Am.esp=1
DynamicDungeonLoot.esp=1
ViscousGrass.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
mrbs-unique artifacts-se.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
Shields of the Hold.esp=1
Inigo.esp=1
Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp=1
PlateMailRetexture.esp=1
Runed_Nordic_Weapons.esp=1
PilgrimsDelight.esp=1
Immersive Jewelry.esp=1
EmbersHD.esp=1
Potions.esp=1
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp=1
Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp=1
Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp=1
Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp=1
SkyrimIsWindy.esp=1
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=1
KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp=1
SAF - Awesome Potions.esp=1
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp=1
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1
The Huntsman.esp=1
EbonyWolfArmor_SkyforgeEbonyWeapons.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
QuickLight.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp=1
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1
IA Survival ENG patch.esp=1
SurvivalConfig - Hunterborn Survival Patch.esp=1
AAE_Cloaks_Patch.esp=1
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
Cloaks+WIC Survival ENG patch.esp=1
Forgotten Magic - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1
DDLUniqueLootPatch.esp=1
SL99Exchanger_Patch_Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp=1
SL99Exchanger_Patch_Immersive Jewelry.esp=1
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp=1
OrdToNMod.esp=1
ElementalRegalia.esp=1
WeightLessLegacyAll.esp=1
Quest save TimeScale.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp=1
RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp=1
RWT Lod Fix.esp=1

also note that this is before rebuilding my Bashed Patch, so there's a bunch of plugins that are active that will be deactivated on rebuild

Deific Presence fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 21, 2018

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

A reading, from the most :3: mod in the game


a super cute cute posted:


8) Text Fix: "Catch" becomes "Catch and Kill". When I first saw a butterfly in-game, I was delighted, so tried to pick it up as given the option to "Catch Butterfly". I was then horrified when I saw I had killed the butterfly and now had a butterfly wing in my inventory. This tiny mod simply changes the text from "Catch" to "Catch and Kill" as a warning to players.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

That is heartbreaking.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
I’m guessing this person is not an admirer of the award winning FUS RO DAH fishing method then

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

:3:

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003
Is there a way to convert that mod to Classic, because I dig it.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

That mod is never leaving my load order, I tell you what.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

I wonder if it would be possible to make catching a butterfly instead give you a "Butterfly in a Jar" item...

(Never mind that Butterfly Wings of both kinds are some of the most useful alchemy ingredients, so are Luna Moths...)

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Agents are GO! posted:

I wonder if it would be possible to make catching a butterfly instead give you a "Butterfly in a Jar" item...

(Never mind that Butterfly Wings of both kinds are some of the most useful alchemy ingredients, so are Luna Moths...)

I would think it'd be super easy to change the name and icon to "X butterfly in a jar" from X butterfly wing, but it'd likely create conflicts with other mods that change alchemy and also if you're using live butterflies in alchemy recipes I'm not sure how your square that with the same problems someone has killing them in game in the first place.

Fake Edit: add an animation where it flies around you after making a potion similar to when Link uses a fairy in Zelda games. Holy poo poo I fixed this non-existent problem but have no ability to implement it.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Blimpkin posted:

Is there a way to convert that mod to Classic, because I dig it.

Here's the Classic version.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Skwirl posted:

I would think it'd be super easy to change the name and icon to "X butterfly in a jar" from X butterfly wing, but it'd likely create conflicts with other mods that change alchemy and also if you're using live butterflies in alchemy recipes I'm not sure how your square that with the same problems someone has killing them in game in the first place.

Fake Edit: add an animation where it flies around you after making a potion similar to when Link uses a fairy in Zelda games. Holy poo poo I fixed this non-existent problem but have no ability to implement it.

Actually, my solution was to create a new item that used the butterfly in the jar models, then a script to automatically add one every time you caught a butterfly.

Even funnier idea: Create one-winged butterfly models!

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~
Make the new "butterfly in a jar" items a consumable that adds the appropriate wings to your inventory on use?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Agents are GO! posted:

Actually, my solution was to create a new item that used the butterfly in the jar models, then a script to automatically add one every time you caught a butterfly.

Even funnier idea: Create one-winged butterfly models!

Yeah, but what happens to the butterfly when you use it to create the potion? Hence my Zelda thingie.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Maybe there's a way to make butterflies act like mineral nodes. Harvest the butterfly for some item that replaces the wing ingredient, sunshine or kisses or something.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Rainbow Knight posted:

Maybe there's a way to make butterflies act like mineral nodes. Harvest the butterfly for some item that replaces the wing ingredient, sunshine or kisses or something.

Changing X Butterfly Wing to X Butterfly Kiss seems appropriate. Again though, wouldn't that mess with other mods that affect alchemy?

Unormal
Nov 16, 2004

Mod sass? This evening?! But the cakes aren't ready! THE CAKES!
Fun Shoe
SKSE for SkyrimVR is out!

http://skse.silverlock.org/

e: also if you haven't done this in SkyrimVR.ini with a Vive you should, makes menu navigation way better:

[VRWand]
fMinPulsesForFullSwipe=8.0000
fMaxPulsesForFullSwipe=8.0000

Unormal fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 22, 2018

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.
I came back to Skyrim to try out special edition, and the improved graphics aren't as nice as I expected, even running at 4K.

So, ENB it is. But it kills my 60fps down to 35fps.

:negative:

The main culprit is ENB's SSAO (what the gently caress kind of SSAO costs 12ms? :psypop:), I'll probably just turn it off but am I missing an obvious tweak I could use to dial down that ridiculous cost in 4K?

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Skwirl posted:

Changing X Butterfly Wing to X Butterfly Kiss seems appropriate. Again though, wouldn't that mess with other mods that affect alchemy?

If it's just renaming for like 5 items, then yes, but it wouldn't be hard to make compatibility variants - forget patches, just have multiple releases for whatever popular alchemy mods are out there. Some may not even touch all of the butterflies and just work out of the box.

But that's all an aside. You only need the original mod that provoked this line of discussion because Skyrim is really all about :black101:

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Skwirl posted:

Yeah, but what happens to the butterfly when you use it to create the potion? Hence my Zelda thingie.

That was why I wanted to make one-winged butterfly models. :D

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Agents are GO! posted:

That was why I wanted to make one-winged butterfly models. :D

So your answer to not wanting to kill butterflies is to maim them and keep them in captivity? Sounds like something a Thalmor would do. :colbert:

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Are there any other good follower mods other than Inigo for SE?

Or is it just weird dude's waifus all the way down? Cause that's what it looks like on the Nexus, or are some of those actually okay and I'm just jumping to conclusions.

A Sometimes Food fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 23, 2018

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

If Bhruce Hammar has been ported, him

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Agents are GO! posted:

That was why I wanted to make one-winged butterfly models. :D

No wings, just some kind of dwemer jet pack. After enough wings, a big butterfly spawns and chases you around with a knife like a tonberry.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Ynglaur posted:

So your answer to not wanting to kill butterflies is to maim them and keep them in captivity? Sounds like something a Thalmor would do. :colbert:

Them's fightin' words.

Rainbow Knight posted:

No wings, just some kind of dwemer jet pack. After enough wings, a big butterfly spawns and chases you around with a knife like a tonberry.

:frogon:

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

It's like when you gently caress with the Cuccoos in Zelda. Eventually you get mobbed by butterflies.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Tasteful Dickpic posted:

It's like when you gently caress with the Cuccoos in Zelda. Eventually you get mobbed by butterflies.

This is even lore friendly, with that one soldier who speculated about Shezzarines getting smothered by ancestor moths in his sleep.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

God drat it. I wish I was better at modding. I was just trying to figure out how to put a jetpack on a butterfly and my eyes just crossed and I fell asleep.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Rainbow Knight posted:

God drat it. I wish I was better at modding. I was just trying to figure out how to put a jetpack on a butterfly and my eyes just crossed and I fell asleep.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

I just figured out that making, uh, impure(?) poisons with buffs on them last 15 times longer when used in conjunction with Ord's Lab Skeever perk. Do I need a lingering damage poison that lasts 22 minutes and fortifies the enemy's pickpocket skill? No*. Do I want a lingering damage poison that lasts 22 minutes and fortifies the enemy's pickpocket skill? Yes. I just need to figure out how to make it work in a practical way :v:



*Yes

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Rainbow Knight posted:

I just figured out that making, uh, impure(?) poisons with buffs on them last 15 times longer when used in conjunction with Ord's Lab Skeever perk. Do I need a lingering damage poison that lasts 22 minutes and fortifies the enemy's pickpocket skill? No*. Do I want a lingering damage poison that lasts 22 minutes and fortifies the enemy's pickpocket skill? Yes. I just need to figure out how to make it work in a practical way :v:



*Yes

Does Ord still have the Poisoner perk, where you could reverse-pickpocket poisons onto people and they would take effect? That was the best poo poo ever. Make a long-lasting Fury poison, plant it on an essential character, sit back and watch the fun.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

If Bhruce Hammar has been ported, him

Doesn't seem to have been sadly.

The old goon review of Inigo linked in the OP seems to suggest that the only issue with Vilja is a sappy romance path and her default chatter being too much (and the latter is a toggle). Is it just sappy or does it bring in creepy poo poo too? Cause as someone who kinda likes Bioware games cliche romance novel stuff is not necessarily a problem.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
Well, the SkyrimVR community has managed to drive Arthmoor off the deep end again. He has taken the USSEP mod offline:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266

Arthmoor came out with version 4.1.3 of USSEP that will break marriage and adoption in older versions of the game. In typical fashion, he removed the download for 4.1.2a because older versions of Skyrim are "unsupported". Since SkyrimVR is possibly forked from an older version of the game, people were worrying if this would cause any problems as pretty much every single mod guide mentions USSEP. And to test if it was broken, you would have to start a new game with 4.1.3 and play up to the point where you can marry or adopt, and nobody had managed to get that far yet.

So, they did the one thing you should not do. They asked Arthmoor if he could put the old 4.1.2a version back up on Nexus until the community could figure out if the new version was safe.

Arthmoor flipped out and started deleting every single VR comment he could find. He refuses to support SkyrimVR as mods are "unsupported" by Bethesda. He refuses to allow anybody to do the work to support it themselves. Typical Arthmoor stuff.

Well, somebody found a direct link to the older 4.1.2a version on Nexus and posted it, and somebody mirrored the version to MEGA. So of course he then started posting in /r/skyrimvr calling everybody thieves, pirates, copyright infringers, and threatened to get people banned from Nexus. And now he has pulled USSEP offline entirely, claiming SkyrimVR is a "rogue community" that he has to take care of first.

All in all, pretty entertaining.

Reddit meltdown

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Nalin posted:

Well, the SkyrimVR community has managed to drive Arthmoor off the deep end again. He has taken the USSEP mod offline:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266

Arthmoor came out with version 4.1.3 of USSEP that will break marriage and adoption in older versions of the game. In typical fashion, he removed the download for 4.1.2a because older versions of Skyrim are "unsupported". Since SkyrimVR is possibly forked from an older version of the game, people were worrying if this would cause any problems as pretty much every single mod guide mentions USSEP. And to test if it was broken, you would have to start a new game with 4.1.3 and play up to the point where you can marry or adopt, and nobody had managed to get that far yet.

So, they did the one thing you should not do. They asked Arthmoor if he could put the old 4.1.2a version back up on Nexus until the community could figure out if the new version was safe.

Arthmoor flipped out and started deleting every single VR comment he could find. He refuses to support SkyrimVR as mods are "unsupported" by Bethesda. He refuses to allow anybody to do the work to support it themselves. Typical Arthmoor stuff.

Well, somebody found a direct link to the older 4.1.2a version on Nexus and posted it, and somebody mirrored the version to MEGA. So of course he then started posting in /r/skyrimvr calling everybody thieves, pirates, copyright infringers, and threatened to get people banned from Nexus. And now he has pulled USSEP offline entirely, claiming SkyrimVR is a "rogue community" that he has to take care of first.

All in all, pretty entertaining.

Reddit meltdown

loving lol. When are people gonna learn to not make every other mod rely on Arthmoor mods. How many times has this happened across the Bethesda games?


Like how many mods need the USSEP to run?

A Sometimes Food fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Apr 25, 2018

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
The best part is that the USSEP license explicitly allows reuploading. Doesn't stop Arthmoor from crying about "piracy".

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

I'm not generally an elitist about these things but can we just ban people without IP/legal qualifications from talking about theft and terms and contracts forever. I have a headache. What a loving idiot

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

A Sometimes Food posted:

Doesn't seem to have been sadly.

The old goon review of Inigo linked in the OP seems to suggest that the only issue with Vilja is a sappy romance path and her default chatter being too much (and the latter is a toggle). Is it just sappy or does it bring in creepy poo poo too? Cause as someone who kinda likes Bioware games cliche romance novel stuff is not necessarily a problem.

Not creepy at all, just sappy. Hell, you might even enjoy it. Vilja is definitely worth a go if only for the chance to enjoy the spectacularly bad voice acting on the dozen or so non-Vilja characters the mod adds. The mod is huge and much more than just an extra follower, but everything in it is 100% optional and won’t get in your way if you don’t want to engage it. If you’re looking for a follower mod besides Inigo I highly recommend trying it out.

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tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Aren't the unofficial patches collaborative efforts? I'm pretty sure that Arthmoor guy just coordinates things, and he wasn't even the one who started it in the first place.

Ironic that he'd summarily take ownership of other people's work like that. What a loving dickhead.

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