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Dongattack posted:It was my nvidia drivers, preformed a clean install and everything is normal again. nVidia drivers have been loving up VR for a while now. Not too surprised.
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The full 2.0 Vive Pro bundle is now available for sale for a whopping $1400.
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Apr 23, 2018 21:47
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Holy loving poo poo.
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Republicans posted:The full 2.0 Vive Pro bundle is now available for sale for a whopping $1400. 
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Apr 23, 2018 21:55
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Republicans posted:The full 2.0 Vive Pro bundle is now available for sale for a whopping $1400. Maybe the 2.0 Lighthouses are really good....
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Apr 23, 2018 21:56
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Hellsau posted:Maybe the 2.0 Lighthouses are really good.... They are if you have an empty warehouse you want to track.
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Apr 23, 2018 21:58
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jubjub64 posted:They are if you have an empty warehouse you want to track. That 10m x 10m tracking area that gets bandied about requires 4 base stations, though. Gonna want a wireless adapter too, and god knows what they're gonna charge for that when a TPCast is $300. Maybe they can bundle all that together for a nice, even two grand. Republicans fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Bhodi posted:
This is awesome. Hope someone does up at least a quick spell casting radial or something. I was enjoying magic more than I ever did in 2D Skyrim but the menu navigation was a pisser.
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FuzzySlippers posted:This is awesome. Hope someone does up at least a quick spell casting radial or something. I was enjoying magic more than I ever did in 2D Skyrim but the menu navigation was a pisser.
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Apr 23, 2018 22:25
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Republicans posted:The full 2.0 Vive Pro bundle is now available for sale for a whopping $1400. One of the few cases where "Pro" literally means "We don't expect consumers to buy it, this is for professional, money-making applications" instead of "really cool and expensive consumer products."
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Republicans posted:The full 2.0 Vive Pro bundle is now available for sale for a whopping $1400. LOL gently caress HTC.
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Apr 23, 2018 22:40
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Republicans posted:The full 2.0 Vive Pro bundle is now available for sale for a whopping $1400. Lmao, high priced tickets on the titanic folks
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rage-saq posted:Lmao, high priced tickets on the titanic folks In before someone says it’s affordable and ok.
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Apr 23, 2018 22:55
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quote:VIVE Wireless Adapter - Powered by Intel® WiGig Wireless Can someone explain why I shouldn't be deathly afraid of being in the same room as one of these? 60 GHz apparently translates to 8 Gbps transfer speed, and it has relatively low range (30 ft?) since the high frequency is unable to pierce through walls. But still, such a high data rate sounds like brain cancer for a device strapped to your face.
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TalkLittle posted:Can someone explain why I shouldn't be deathly afraid of being in the same room as one of these? You're currently being bombarded by as high of frequencies as 430-750 THz.
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http://fortune.com/2018/04/23/htc-vive-pro-virtual-reality-business/quote:HTC Vive North America general manager Daniel O’Brien said that the company’s newest Vive Pro VR headset was specifically designed for corporate use, based on feedback from current customers.
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Sure buddy. We'll see what HTC has to say when Oculus rolls out a Rift with the same resolution as the Vive Pro for less than half the price.
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D1E posted:Sure buddy. We'll see what HTC has to say when Oculus rolls out a Rift with the same resolution as the Vive Pro for less than half the price. They'll probably try to release a consumer headset, then. Good job figuring that one out?
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EbolaIvory posted:In before someone says it’s affordable and ok. Neither are affordable, but I suppose that's the sort of market they're targeting.
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ShadowHawk posted:The price difference between normal vive and vive pro is about the same as the difference between low and high end video cards. I mean. Lets be real here. And its not worth over 2X the cost. Sorry." ShadowHawk posted:Neither are affordable, but I suppose that's the sort of market they're targeting. Base VR these days is actually affordable* even the base vive package is down quite a ways. *To people who have the equipment to run it typically. EbolaIvory fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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HTC are explicitly saying this headset is not targeted towards consumers and gamers, but is instead meant for businesses. Apparently it features a number of under-the-hood improvements meant for trade show demos and the like. quote:HTC’s older VR headset, Vive, was geared to video gamers looking to race cars in digital worlds. The company is taking a different strategy with the Vive Pro, based on what it’s learned since the Vive premiered in 2016, HTC executives explained. IMHO people thinking the price is high are way off base because while it's high for a consumer, it's peanuts for a business expense. They could have charged 3K and gotten away with it. Tons of B2B specific items cost that much and nobody bats an eye.
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friendly 2 da void posted:HTC are explicitly saying this headset is not targeted towards consumers and gamers, but is instead meant for businesses. Apparently it features a number of under-the-hood improvements meant for trade show demos and the like. This is partly true but mostly a bullshit excuse to cover for the fact that they are fleecing their customer base which is SOP for them. The second a steamVR native company like them releases a real product they are going to get crushed.
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I’d fire anyone spending company money on a Vive Pro.
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...crushed by releasing a product to its intended audience, which isn't SteamVR consumers? 
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The "intended audience" poo poo about corporate customers is lip service to justify the price. It comes with steam download codes for games. It's a consumer device you can buy at big box retailers.
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GutBomb posted:The "intended audience" poo poo about corporate customers is lip service to justify the price. It comes with steam download codes for games. It's a consumer device you can buy at big box retailers. Seriously. If it was intended for corporate audiences why is that all of a sudden coming out now at the last second?
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I'm pretty sure it was always referred to in that way?
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They used the word "prosumer", which is pretty terrible all by itself.
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If it were a business device, it would cost several thousand dollars and come with customized support from HTC.
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BonoMan posted:Seriously. If it was intended for corporate audiences why is that all of a sudden coming out now at the last second? Because otherwise people would be complaining they can't buy it at retail, regardless of price.
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The real nail in the coffin I think is that $1400 doesn't buy you a commercial license to use the vive pro. You have to spend an additional 299 I believe for a commercial license.
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two levels of support for business. 199 and 299 for these subscriptions. And one of the major uses of VR headsets is demonstrations and arcades.
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Like hey the price is goofy but who cares this much just don't buy it. It doesn't even have any specific lock-out software or anything. if HTC is dumb as stupid and smells like two farts inside of another fart then they'll fail with their terrible VR business practices and someone else will take their place and we can all bitch about what they do as a company.
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Its basically been one long slow news day for VR since GDC, it was just revealed and is something to talk about.  You have a good new avatar btw.
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Wasn't it known from the start the business plan was fleece nerds/corps with too much money and then eventually drop the price for more mass market appeal? I don't really see the problem.
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Parallelwoody posted:Wasn't it known from the start the business plan was fleece nerds/corps with too much money and then eventually drop the price for more mass market appeal? I don't really see the problem. I think the problem with that plan is they pissed off a lot of customers and alienated potential ones. When it comes time to finally lower the price though, they risk pimax, LG, Samsung, some other windows headsets, or oculus announcing or releasing something that leapfrogs the vive pro for 1/3 the cost. Samsung already has a comparable resolution headset for 1/3 the cost.
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Tom Guycot posted:Samsung already has a comparable resolution headset for 1/3 the cost. This is really it right here. Sure, lighthouse is much better than whatever the Odyssey uses, but that's not even factored into the price of the Pro headset. If the Samsung headset didn't exist, I could see how HTC wants to make some money on their headset at first and then lower it later. But a similar headset with around the same specs already exists for a lower price. The entire odyssey experience is 300 dollars cheaper than just the Vive Pro headset. HTC already tried the "more expensive for premium" strategy with a headset that was inferior in some ways to the competition. I'm not buying that this headset is somehow worth twice the price of other VR headsets.
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GutBomb posted:The "intended audience" poo poo about corporate customers is lip service to justify the price. It comes with steam download codes for games. It's a consumer device you can buy at big box retailers. Not only that, I don't know about the US but in the UK you can get it on finance and pay £30 a month for 2 years for it. What loving company needs to get comedy finance for a headset. https://www.vive.com/uk/financing/
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Tom Guycot posted:I think the problem with that plan is they pissed off a lot of customers and alienated potential ones. When it comes time to finally lower the price though, they risk pimax, LG, Samsung, some other windows headsets, or oculus announcing or releasing something that leapfrogs the vive pro for 1/3 the cost. Dont forget it still has lovely HTC design issues and piss poor customer support! For $1400!
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