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A lot of the old-guard blockbuster film-makers who came up in the seventies and eighties have expressed a dissatisfaction with the current state of big-budget cinema. Spielberg, love him though I do, was making similar comments not too long ago, and I think it comes from that fact that these guys are old and grumpy, and when you helped define a paradigm, when it changes it breeds discomfort. The thing is; everything is changing with cinema. Distribution models are being blown wide open, marketing is mutating, and the kind of blockbuster entertainment that people want to consume has completely transformed. I remember when I was a kid there was a commonly held maxim that "the sequels are always inferior to the original", but that idea seems alien now, now films are explicitly designed for sequels, with the real juicy story details being held back for Part 2 or 3. Some of the (bad) criticism of the (good) The Last Jedi was people complaining that they didn't know how the third entry would go based on the ending, as if the idea of a finale feeling rounded and complete felt wrong. So, I wouldn't be too hard on Cameron, his arguments are misguided but he's just lashing out a system that has somewhat left him behind, audiences want something else now. And in another thirty years what they want will be unrecognizable to us now. And so it goes on.
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Cam footage of Venom in the new trailer before it hits. https://twitter.com/TheAgeOfThanos/status/988533409839484928 
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Apr 23, 2018 23:00
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That is shockingly not terrible!
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Apr 23, 2018 23:03
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Teenage Fansub posted:Cam footage of Venom in the new trailer before it hits. Not digging the transformation, but Venom actually looks pretty good there. Still can't give a poo poo about the movie though.
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Apr 23, 2018 23:21
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Yeah that... actually looks pretty good. Why didn't they wait until they could show this first?
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Apr 23, 2018 23:25
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Jamesman posted:Not digging the transformation, but Venom actually looks pretty good there. I think it looks great, very much how they did it in the 90's toon.
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Apr 23, 2018 23:26
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Karloff posted:So, I wouldn't be too hard on Cameron, his arguments are misguided but he's just lashing out a system that has somewhat left him behind, audiences want something else now. And in another thirty years what they want will be unrecognizable to us now. And so it goes on. Cameron’s made 2 movies in the last 20 years so don’t think it’s the system that left him behind.
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WHOOPS posted:Cameron’s made 2 movies in the last 20 years so don’t think it’s the system that left him behind. Excluding documentaries, he's made one movie in the last 20 years; Titanic was 21 years ago.  Edit: fun (?) fact: Whedon says Cameron was the main influence on how he directed the action scenes in the Avengers movies. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 23:42
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catlord posted:Yeah that... actually looks pretty good. Why didn't they wait until they could show this first? I can only imagine a locked in teaser date got ahead of effects being ready. There were a couple of obvious shots in there of people being attacked and cars flipping where the tendrils would be added in the final thing.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Edit: fun (?) fact: Whedon says Cameron was the main influence on how he directed the action scenes in the Avengers movies. No wonder Cameron feels insulted by these films, then.
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Apr 24, 2018 00:16
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Teenage Fansub posted:Cam footage of Venom in the new trailer before it hits. Why does this look good
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Apr 24, 2018 00:23
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I feel like the eyes could be bigger but ain’t gonna get my panties in a wad. That looks pretty sweet.
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Apr 24, 2018 00:55
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Didn't it already come out that that is likely at the very very end of the film? Unless they responded to the negative feelings of the first trailer with some changes to the movie itself.
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Apr 24, 2018 00:58
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I hope it's not the end so we can get a movie full of Venom's mouth flopping like a Muppet whenever he talks.
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Apr 24, 2018 01:31
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I don't know why they have texture on the symbiote, but whatever. I also don't like the transformation, but what can you do.
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Apr 24, 2018 01:57
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I like it. It really comes off as a pile of goo trying its hardest to be a solid mask.
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Apr 24, 2018 02:17
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SonicRulez posted:I don't know why they have texture on the symbiote, but whatever. I also don't like the transformation, but what can you do. I mean, it's a living, alien creature. Gavok posted:I like it. It really comes off as a pile of goo trying its hardest to be a solid mask. This.
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Jamesman posted:Not digging the transformation, but Venom actually looks pretty good there. Exactly how I feel. Looks great, but Venom is really low on the characters I give a poo poo about. It won't even have secondary characters I care about.
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Apr 24, 2018 02:52
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Venom looks really goofy with the mouth moving. Sorry.
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You think talking without his mouth moving would look less weird?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Didn't it already come out that that is likely at the very very end of the film? If the leaks are anything to go by, yeah, he doesn't get the classic look until he goes to eat Riz Ahmed's brains or whatever.
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Aphrodite posted:You think talking without his mouth moving would look less weird? Worked for Malebolgia in the Spawn movie! ...wait, no it didn't.
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Apr 24, 2018 03:12
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I really dig that Venom transformation. It looks like a gross living ferrofluid.
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Apr 24, 2018 03:51
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The Venom mouth could just hand loose open while he talked from inside. That'd look creepy. edit: Like Clayface has been done recently. 
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Apr 24, 2018 04:01
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Web of Shadows did that. It was only in like one cutscene but it looked cool as hell
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twistedmentat posted:Exactly how I feel. Looks great, but Venom is really low on the characters I give a poo poo about. It won't even have secondary characters I care about. It's just off-putting to me to completely disconnect Venom from Spider-Man. It's like they skipped 2 or 3 movies here.
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I'm just hoping it's a good, gritty Jekyll + Hyde movie. Tie-ins are the least concern. Zero wider comic book world connections would be just fine. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 04:30
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Jamesman posted:It's just off-putting to me to completely disconnect Venom from Spider-Man. It's like they skipped 2 or 3 movies here. Yeah, the three movies before Homecoming.
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Jamesman posted:It's just off-putting to me to completely disconnect Venom from Spider-Man. It's like they skipped 2 or 3 movies here. Don't worry, they're going to cram all three of those movies into this one. Now I know what you're thinking, "how will it all fit?" Well you see, by removing certain elements like Spider-Man.....
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Retro Futurist posted:Web of Shadows did that. It was only in like one cutscene but it looked cool as hell They had something like that in Ultimate Spider-Man. The first time the symbiote freaked out on Spider-Man and became Venom-like, you could see Peter's horrified eye peaking from its mouth.
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https://twitter.com/VenomMovie/status/988624564044288000 "Eddie..."
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Apr 24, 2018 05:01
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So it’s The Darkness. Yeah that works
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That's a durable hoodie.Retro Futurist posted:So it’s The Darkness. Yeah that works Now I'm sad that that's not Mike Patton's voice.
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That actually looks good. So of course that's every good scene from the film. Retro Futurist posted:So it’s The Darkness. Yeah that works The Darkness is a massive ripoff of Venom.
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Has anyone made a graph with Venom, Deadpool, Spawn, the Darkness, Ghost Rider, etc;?
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Apr 24, 2018 05:12
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Rhyno posted:That actually looks good. So of course that's every good scene from the film. Can't be true. The trailer doesn't have Woody Harrelson in it.
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Apr 24, 2018 05:12
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I'm gonna set my ringtone to Jenny Slate saying "symbiote"
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Oh hey the company is called the Life Foundation so LIFE was indeed a stealth Venom prequel.
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Sim-bye-oat? Tell me I haven't been mispronouncing it for years. I was under the impression it was sim-bee-oat?
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Teenage Fansub posted:I'm gonna set my ringtone to Jenny Slate saying "symbiote" I love Jenny Slate, but that was the worst pronunciation possible.
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