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IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

ultrafilter posted:

Maybe he started out wearing blue and just got bored with it.

The blues in the outfit faded to black and beige over the centuries. And he can't exactly go out and get new clothes.

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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Been getting back into the game, and whilst the battle system for the most part is great it has two major issues. The simplest one was shown when fighting Quda, when enemies use class abilities they work exactly the same as they do for you so attacks that in dangerous circumstances can do decent damage turn into one hit kill attacks. The next issue is that characters who are brought back to life during the round don't recover any BP so if things start to turn against you then you are screwed.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

GimmickMan posted:

The photoshops make these vampire castles of text much easier to digest. High tier update.

EagerSleeper posted:

I just want to take a moment to say that this is some top tier stuff, OP. :five:

Belated reply, but: thanks. Wasn't certain how the original images would go over considering it's a one-off deal, but to clarify for those who haven't played, that whole section of cutscenes really is just DeRosso chatting with the party against the same purple background. Didn't want to make everyone sit through that.

Anyway all the effort was worthwhile to subject everyone to my stupid Frozen joke

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
Really though even being such a small touch it add quite a bit to the updates.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Yeah, more games seriously need quick visual references to their own goddamn plots.

So, basically, the last twenty or so years have been the Orthodoxy overclocking the crystals and people just grew used to it? Fuckin' politics.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
I've seen more than a few screenshot LPs with an update replaced by 'artist's renditions' (usually due to technical difficulties, and at least once because the plot was so dumb we needed a flowchart (the MMBN LPs were loving cursed, man)) and its always delightful.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

YggiDee posted:

I've seen more than a few screenshot LPs with an update replaced by 'artist's renditions' (usually due to technical difficulties, and at least once because the plot was so dumb we needed a flowchart (the MMBN LPs were loving cursed, man)) and its always delightful.

Blessed. The word you meant to use was "blessed".

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Entry 76: Tower Offense

The final push for the Earth Crystal is about to begin.

Phase One: Beat up all the bad guys -- Complete.

Phase Two: Solve world-spanning puzzle by beating up a bunch of dragons to open a door, because DeRosso's too edgy to just hide a key under the mat -- Complete.

Phase Three: Listen to immortal batman ramble about past -- Complete.

Phase Four: Learn Vampire techniques from violent monsters without getting face bitten off (done offscreen) -- Complete.

Phase Five: Shopping~!



Any remaining opponents will never see us coming, but they may smell us.



Ringabel is no longer allowed to wear adamant hats while driving the floating city-ship.



Non-adspeak version: They left the robe in some dirt for a while.



Just in case someone in the party wants to use glove weapons again (they won't).




Phase Six sees the party at last using the north door out of Eternia Central Command.



The weather clears up, giving the party a good view of Everlast Tower. It has the same design as the water and wind temples.



Finally.



I've never set foot here, either, yet the change is clear.

Well, at least it seems the Eternian Forces dare not deploy troops here.

Yet I sense a foul presence.

Monsters, no doubt.



Let's hurry!



Okay, let's g--



Okay, found one 'foul presence'.



Apparently the party could avoid a lot of these fights if they were a bit more sneaky.



But then, stomping around everywhere is part of their charm, I suppose.



I once DM'd a D&D game where all four players played Dragonborn Berserkers with 8 intellect.



I realize that doesn't mean much to non-D&D folks, but essentially these four people ran around solving all their problems by killing/eating everything.



The Bravely Default crew reminds me of that game more often than I would've expected, with slightly less emphasis on food. So far.




Down the hall from the entrance is an exit outside.



It leads to another landing field, so we don't have to run back to Central Command to fly out of here.



Back in the tower, heading upstairs leads to a bunch of passages with treasure. The dungeon design's smaller but less linear than Vampire Castle.



One of the stained glass windows in the back has a secret: you can walk through it...somehow.



Anyway, there's a neat sword back there.



This is another staple weapon of the Final Fantasy series, though it doesn't have the lore behind it a lot of other weapons get.



Complete map of the first floor, with the party standing in front of the walkthrough stained glass window.



Second floor doesn't have any noteworthy treasure, but we do find...



Another birdfriend. We'll chat with them later.



This was kept on the third floor. Norimune was a real person who lived around the 1200s.



Norimune worked alongside 12 other swordsmiths, and their swords created for the Japanese emperor were collectively referred to as kiku-ichimonji, hence this one being called a Kiku-ichimonji Norimune.



After all the fanfare of getting here, Everlast Tower itself is surprisingly empty. We're already almost to the top and so far the party's got nothing more to say.



They're finding the usual ancient cursed treasures, but that's about it.



All that effort and the person who used it in combat probably just got stabbed by a spear. There's a reason most shields don't have decorative holes in them.




The fourth floor has a slightly different design, with the final hallway being almost temple-like...




And what do you know, the next floor up is the Temple of Earth. Same layout as Water and Fire.



Also like the other temples, the three rooms to the north, south, and east of the garden have things to inspect.



In the south room's case, there are papers scattered on the tables. Tiz and Ringabel collect and show them to the others.



Same as in Vampire Castle, Ringabel's written down his thoughts, which I'm including here. D's Journal also includes its own version of the notes, which I'm just throwing down at the bottom of the entry as its almost word-for-word repeats of what's seen in the cutscenes.


>Observations of the Crystal

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

I came across a bundle of ancient-looking papers in the halls of Everlast Tower, penned by a researcher as the Temple of Earth was being rebuilt into the tower that stands now.

"Observations of the Crystal"
Submitted by Victor S. Court

There among its page I found a familiar name.




Research Memo - Observations of the Crystal posted:

The energy within the crystals may be categorized by their names, viz., fire, water, wind, and earth. The amplification effect of a crystal only extends to its corresponding element.

For instance, the efficacy of this crystal extends to soil, land, mud, rock, and the like. It is for that reason the Orthodoxy names this the Earth Crystal. As for the method of extracting the energy it holds within...


Wow... Not that I really understand.

Yes, I'm afraid I didn't follow that, either.

It seems...I must look beyond what I had thought was simple desecration of the crystal.

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

He must have been young when he wrote this report. Even then, he had a passion for the crystals. Obsession, really. Strong enough to cause even Agnès, Vestal of Wind, to entertain the possibility that desecration of the crystal might indeed serve some good.


Luxendarc is a world entirely dependent upon these magical amplifying devices. Instead of their moon generating tides, they have the water crystal. Instead of temperature changes causing the jet streams, they have the wind crystal. Instead of shifting tectonic plates over a heated mantle, the fire and earth crystals.

If you find world-building interesting, this brings up all sorts of questions about Luxendarc's composition and creation/maintenance. The characters might look human, but they're really from a pretty alien planet.


>Crystal Healing Waves

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

A second research report. It's missing a considerable number of pages, but appears to be a continuation of the other.

"The Healing Waves Emanating from the Crystal"
Submitted by Victor S. Court




Research Memo - The Healing Waves Emanating from the Crystal posted:

Two kinds of waves have been observed emanating from the earth crystal. The waves that amplify white magic efficacy were likely used by the Orthodoxy for benediction, healing, and exorcism. The waves that amplify black magic efficacy were likely used for retribution and attacks upon enemies of the faith.

The Lord Marshal ordered that only those waves that amplify white magic are to be extracted and utilized. A new technique wherein an extraction cable is attached to the surface of the crystal without doing it harm has greatly advanced our work.


It seems they truly wished to advance medicine.

That treatment Edea's mother was receiving must've resulted from this research.

How could have such worthy efforts gone so terribly wrong?

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

If this report is to be believed, it was never the duchy's (or perhaps I should say the templar's) intention to utilize these energies for military purposes, but rather to exercise the utmost care in preserving the crystal while putting it to use combating disease and easing the people's suffering.


The Duchy's scientists did remarkable work considering their lack of access to a crystal until the Eternia invasion.


>Report on Alchemical Life

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

The third still-legible research document in the stack looks to have been written around the same time as the others, but the handwriting is different. More mature.

"Interim Report on Alchemical Life Research"
Submitted by Vincent S. Court.




Research Memo - Interim Report on Alchemical Life Research posted:

A tome entitled "Alchemical Life" was found among a trove of forbidden volumes seized from the Orthodoxy. But rather than some book of the occult dealing in miracles and manifestations, it is an ancient book of medicine. It claims the crystal's white waves can stimulate an individual's cells, and the black waves can link cells between individuals.


Alchemical life? They went beyond merely saving lives?

Wait, there's more...

This so-called alchemical life is unstable, and keeping the resulting subjects alive comes at great difficulty.

So, it seems they proposed that the research be shut down.

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

This willingness to cast aside his research only furthers my amazement at the sincerity and zeal shown by the templar and all the duchy's researchers in the pursuit of medical science.

Good thing the Duchy was secretly too good and pure to experiment with life. Instead they've just stuck with regular old robot bears, dragons tortured into undeath, and demonic contracts.



Wasn't able to get these guys to show up until the Temple of Earth proper.



Daedalus was the architect who built the maze housing the infamous minotaur.

In the room to the east, Ringabel finds a stack of papers stuffed in one of the corners.

D's Journal: An Adherent's Chronicle posted:

I came upon a pile of badly worn papers lying in a forgotten corner of Everlast Tower. They appear to be the journal of a high official within the Orthodoxy. The oldest legible entry dates twenty years back, the newest fifteen--written the day of the templar's strike on the Orthodoxy's head temple.

He shows it to the others.



Let's see... Oh, this is an account by a Crystalist of high standing.


>The Great Plague



An Adherent's Chronicle - The Great Plague posted:

The terrible plague ravaging the world finally reached our shores. Already, there are those falling ill in villages to the east. To halt its spread to Orthodoxy headquarters, top officials of the faith have closed all roads and forbidden the influx of people and goods.

Controversy arose when a young cleric appealed to his superiors to use the power of the Earth Crystal for purification and medical treatment. But the proposal had no hope of approval, as we hold the crystals as sacred. The heirarchy ignored it.

The "purging" of refugees for seeking to thwart the blockade was a scene from hell. The purged believers were hailed as martyrs.


The D's journal entry specifies that refugees were killed on sight. Afterwards, Ringabel comments:

D's Journal: An Adherent's Chronicle posted:

I care to read no further.


How terrible! How could they be so cruel?

By saying, "We had no other choice," no doubt.

But to have a way to battle the plague and not use it? They simply forsook them.

Previously, it was never mentioned the Orthodoxy had a possible way to cure the plague.


>A Cleric Departs

D's Journal: An Adherent's Chronicle posted:

Between missing pages and text too worn to be legible, the next entry I can read is dated significantly later.




An Adherent's Chronicle - The End of the Plague posted:

The young cleric appealed to his superiors day after day to no avail. When the Great Plague showed signs of abating, the Orthodoxy was overjoyed. Those who had advocated the blockade were showered with praise. Some days later, the young cleric was summoned before the Vestal, whereupon he was mocked and reprimanded for hours on end.

The plague wiped out his village of birth, save for a few who escaped, and many other villages within the faith's lands suffered the same fate. Henceforth, the young cleric was never again seen amongst the ranks of the Crystal Orthodoxy. Perhaps he was shipped to a post of no consequence, or fallen away altogether.


He sounded like a hero in the making. If he had counted among the Orthodoxy's leaders, this land would've, perhaps, changed for the better.

But then, perhaps, I wouldn't have been here with you today.


>The End of the World

D's Journal: An Adherent's Chronicle posted:

Even beyond the pages' wear, most of the text is redacted in heavy black ink. Whether this is the writer's own doing or not, I cannot say. The next clear page is the last, dated far later. It provides a record of that day, fifteen years ago. The text is a frantic scribble, as if written amid utter chaos.




An Adherent's Chronicle - The End of the World posted:

The Orthodoxy's head temple has already fallen, and it shall not be long now before my refuge, too, is discovered by the invaders.

The Earth Vestal was dragged before their leader. It was the once young cleric--now a seasoned soldier, fearless and self-assured. The Vestal faced him, hurling words of contempt and scorn, but ere she could finish--

--an enraged member of his guard cut her down with a stroke of his long blade, and the Vestal's body fell silently to the floor. All is lost...


So that's how the earth vestal was slain.

What an awful tale!

...With a stroke of his...long blade...

D's Journal: An Adherent's Chronicle posted:

It was an account of the earth vestal's execution at the hands of the templar's men fifteen years ago. I had no idea he had so long pled his case as a priest within the Orthodoxy... I imagine her dying words were an accusation of betrayal. Edea's expression clouded especially upon hearing mention of the templar's aide cutting the vestal down. I know not why...


Konoe Kikyo the ninja was supposed to keep the fire vestal alive, but failed. Perhaps the reason her superior was so lenient with her afterwards was because he, too, had once made a similar mistake.



Another elemental charm, probably dropped by a high-ranking member of the Orthodoxy when the temple was raided.



The room to the north has more scattered notes.

"The Reconquest of Eternia." Hmm, I wonder what it says in here.


>The Reconquest of Eternia

D's Journal: The Recapture of Eternia posted:

Other records found in Everlast Tower paint a picture of the assault, describing the templar's force that struck Eternia. Several of the names it mentions are familiar--leaders of the Eternian Forces we've defeated.

"The Reconquest Campaign: Troop Deployments"



The Reconquest Campaign: Troop Deployments posted:

Our uprising was lacking in everything--troops, armaments, cultivation of informants within the Orthodoxy...

But the Crystal Orthodoxy would soon put their plans in motion. The debate between our Lord Templar and the sage continued. At the end of three days and three nights, our Lord Templar gave the order to strike. His family was to remain behind in this land.

We departed before sunrise the next day. We procured weapons and ammunition in Ancheim and then slipped secretly into Eisenberg. From northern Eisenberg, three fortified airships took us across the highlands, at last entering the land of Eternia.

An abridged listing of our main invasion forces follows.

The valiant usurper Braev the Templar (Our Lord Templar insisted we name him as "usurper.")

Assault troops for the Temple of Earth: They are to take the Earth Crystal and protect our crystal technology squad.
Swordmaster Nobutsuna Kamiizumi, Commander
Hayreddin Barbarossa, Lieutenant Commander
Dr. Vincent S. Court, Technology Squad Leader (Accompanied by his ten-year-old son serving as his assistant.)

Assault troops for the Orthodoxy's head temple: They are to halt all of the institution's functions and seize all of its forbidden tomes and assets.
Sir Argent Heinkel, Commander
Fiore DeRosa, Lieutenant Commander
Barras Lehr, Officer-in-Training
Erutus Profiteur & Dr. Qada, Auditors

Occupation forces for the city of Eternia: These troops will be assigned to keeping the peace and preparing for the laying of the cables.
Spell Fencer Ciggma Khint, Commander
Einheria Venus, Officer-in-Training
Holly Whyte, Medic-in-Training


Presumably the party's just picking out the names they recognize. Ciggma Khint being listed as one of the leaders is unexpected. He obviously turned his back on all that at some point, though not enough to decline working with Profiteur.


>Head Temple Occupation

D's Journal: The Recapture of Eternia posted:

Seems this was penned by the leader of the force that took the Orthodoxy's head temple (now Eternian Central Command). Hard to believe the same man went on to captain the Sky Knights. The text is written in a heavy hand, almost carved into the vellum.

"Head Temple Occupation"
Sir Argent Heinkel, Commander




The Reconquest Campaign: Head Temple Occupation posted:

Once the Temple of Earth fell and news of the earth vestal's demise reached the resistance at the head temple, they quickly surrendered.

The Orthodoxy's soldiers and leaders were stripped of their weapons and confined to the temple. The Lord Templar strictly forbade us from rampant slaughter and maltreatment of the vanquished. None have yet disobeyed his order. Those sympathetic to our cause were allowed to join us, while those who refused were to be released.

As for Erutus Profiteur, the man sent to the treasure house to seize the Orthodoxy's assets, unsavory rumors about him soon began to circulate. Investigation into bribes by former Orthodoxy officials and the large-scale disappearance of artworks from the treasure house is underway.

Dr. Qada, tasked with deciphering the Orthodoxy's forbidden spells, continues to meet clandestinely with his lieutenant, DeRosa. In comparison, Barras Lehr's simple enthusiasm for more fighting is almost refreshing to see.


So Profiteur, Qada, and DeRosa have been causing trouble since the beginning of the Duchy, yet still managed to fly under the radar enough to keep positions of power in the present day.

...I wish I could say that's unrealistic.


>The Occupation of the City

D's Journal: The Recapture of Eternia posted:

The next report was penned by the leader of the squad that occupied Eternia. The templar's decision to staff it with Eternian natives shows a sensitivity to the people of the city.

"The Occupation of the City"
Commander Ciggma Khint




The Reconquest Campaign: The Occupation of the City posted:

A month has passed since our bloodless occupation of the city of Eternia, and the people are finally beginning to settle into their daily lives.

Einheria, originally from this city, doggedly patrols its streets, saying, "I shall defend the city that is home to my master's training grounds." The occupation force is also comprised of others from this land, and perhaps that is another reason for the easing of people's fears.

A few days prior, it was announced that this land had been rechristened the Duchy of Eternia. A member of the royal bloodline that once ruled Eternia before the Crystal Orthodoxy was restored to power as archduke. And naming himself Grand Marshal of the Eternian Forces, the Lord Templar began his tireless effort to build a new system of government.

When Dr. Vincent S. Court proposed a great feat of engineering be erected in one corner of the city, it was approved at once. Great cables are to be extended from the Temple of Earth all the way to the city, but I know not their purpose. Rumor has it the cables are to be linked with buildings under construction in the medical district, also part of the doctor's proposal. The decreed construction schedule is tight and will surely require additional laborers from among the people and former Orthodoxy members.

I spotted medic-in-training Holly Whyte being scolded by Victor, a boy of the same age, for standing around and watching the construction.


D's Journal: The Recapture of Eternia posted:

Reading these reports, it sounds like the templar's men did right by the city, with no looting or abuse.


This whole segment is an odd choice to include here and now. Surprise! The villains we've fought and killed were more complex than we thought!

...But what are we supposed to take away from this? They weren't literal monsters all the time? Humans generally aren't. That's what makes justice so hard to mete out in real life.

Khint was a hired killer, Holly planned to torture Agnès for fun, Kamiizumi put loyalty above the well-being of an entire country, Heinkel let Ominas burn down part of Caldisla and slaughtered many of the residents himself, and so on. Their good deeds fifteen years ago don't erase the wrongdoings they perpetrated today.


Next: A brief break to look at the final two summons in the game.

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Event Viewer
Main Scenario:
Everlast Tower

Sub-Scenario:
Research Memos
An Adherent's Chronicle
The Reconquest of Eternia

D's Journal: Barras the Monk posted:

Records show that he served as a trainee soldier in the unit that attacked the Orthodoxy's head temple when the templar rose up fifteen years ago.

D's Journal: Holly the White Mage posted:

Records show that she served as a junior medic in the unit that occupied Eternia in the templar's uprising fifteen years ago.

D's Journal: Heinkel the Knight posted:

Records show that he commanded the unit that attacked the Orthodoxy's head temple when the templar rose up fifteen years ago.

D's Journal: Sage Yulyana posted:

In Everlast Tower, we found a passage that mentioned the sage amongst records discussing the templar's uprising fifteen years ago. It appears that before the uprising, the templar and the sage held a fierce debate over three days and three nights.

D's Journal: Profiteur, Merchant of Death posted:

In Everlast Tower, we found a diary recording the events of the templar's uprising fifteen years ago. It seems Profiteur was charged with overseeing the seizure of the assets in the Orthodoxy's head temple. He was later suspected of accepting bribes from Orthodoxy officials and misappropriating works of art, indicating he had been corrupt for some time.

D's Journal: Spell Fencer Khint posted:

At Everlast Tower, we found a diary detailing the events of the templar's uprising fifteen years ago. It mentioned that Ciggma Khint was a commander of the Eternian occupation forces.

D's Journal: Victor S. Court posted:

Victor's name appeared in the research notes we found at Everlast Tower. They seem to be from some time after the Earth Crystal was seized fifteen years ago. The notes indicate that he dedicated much time to study of the crystal.

In Everlast Tower, we found Victor's name on a troop deployment list for the campaign to retake Eternia. It seems he accompanied a Vincent S. Court, who must have been his father.

D's Journal: Einheria the Valkyrie posted:

According to documents we found at Everlast Tower, Einheria took part in the templar's uprising 15 years ago. They paint a picture of her as a young trainee who bravely patrolled her home city of Eternia, protecting the people and her master's training hall.

D's Journal: Fiore the Red Mage posted:

According to documents we found at Everlast Tower, the red mage DeRosa took part in the templar's uprising 15 years ago. It seems he served as aide to the knight Argent Heinkel in the unit that assaulted the head temple of the Orthodoxy. However, Heinkel grew mistrustful of him after his poor conduct. He was apparently also close to thet salve-maker Qada and Chairman Profiteur.

D's Journal: Swordmaster Kamiizumi posted:

In Everlast Tower, we found documents showing that the swordmaster took part in the templar's uprising 15 years ago. He commanded the force that assaulted the Temple of Earth, showing how much faith the templar placed in him.

D's Journal: Qada the Salve-Maker posted:

According to documents we found in Everlast Tower, Qada joined the templar's uprising fifteen years ago. It seems he was charged with auditing the Orthodoxy's forbidden tomes and secret tonics after the assault on their head temple. The documents suggest there were some unsavory rumors regarding his work.

D's Journal: Braev the Templar posted:

In Everlast Tower, we found documents relating to the Orthodoxy. A young cleric had proposed a way to save the people from the Great Plague, but left the Orthodoxy after he was ignored. Several years later, the same cleric attacked the head temple of the Orthodoxy. The earth vestal was dragged out and slain by his guards... This young cleric was probably Braev Lee.

In Everlast Tower, we found documents listing the forces that joined the uprising fifteen years ago. They detailed some of the events of that time, indicating that the templar and Sage Yulyana argued right up to the uprising, and noting that rebel forces marched on Eternia via Ancheim and Eisenberg. They also showed that the templar wanted himself to be known as a usurper.

D's Journal: Mahzer Lee posted:

In Everlast Tower, we found records regarding the templar's family. In the few months between the templar's uprising and his return after establishing the duchy, Edea and her mother apparently lived in the sage's needleworks. Were the sigils on the bunk bed there etched by thet tetmplar to protect his daughter, or carved by Mahzer to pray for her husband's return?

D's Journal: Vincent S. Court posted:

(Researcher?)
As one who joined the templar's uprising fifteen years ago, he proposed the construction of white magic cables to the city of Eternia. It is thought he was some kind of researcher. His age and birthplace are not known.

Vincent's name appeared as the author of a report on alchemical life that we discovered in Everlast Tower. He found a tome entitled "Alchemical Life" among the forbidden volumes seized from the Orthodoxy, and verified that it was not a book of occult theory or miracles. However, he later advised his superiors to shut down the research, as it had led to unstable results.

Among documents we found in Everlast Tower, Vincent's name was mentioned in relation to the templar's uprising of 15 years earlier. It seems he was the one that proposed the construction of white magic cables in Eternia. His son's name was Victor. It seems he was the father of Victor S. Court...

D's Journal: Everlast Tower posted:



White Magic Cables:
Duchy researchers have attached a variety of cables and equipment to the Earth Crystal to extract its power. This healing energy is transmitted through the cables to the city of Eternia, where it is used to heal people suffering from sickness and disease.

D's Journal: Research Notes posted:

"The energy within the crystals may be categorized by their names, namely, fire, water, wind, and earth. The amplification effect of a crystal only extends to its corresponding element. For instance, the efficacy of this crystal extends to soil, land, mud, rock, and the life. It is for that reason the Orthodoxy names this the Earth Crystal."
"As for the method of extracting the energy it holds within..."

Healing Wave Research pt.1:
Two kinds of waves have been observed emanating from the Earth Crystal. The waves that amplify white magic efficacy were likely used by the Orthodoxy for benediction, healing, and exorcism. The waves that amplify black magic efficacy were likely used for retribution and attacks upon enemies of the faith.

Healing Waves Research pt.2:
The Lord Marshal ordered that only those waves that amplify white magic are to be extracted and utilized. A new technique wherein an extraction cable is attached to the surface of the crystal without doing it harm has greatly advanced our work.

Alchemical Life Research, pt.1:
A tome entitled "Alchemical Life" was found among a trove of forbidden volumes seized from the Orthodoxy. But rather than some book of the occult dealing in miracles and manifestations, it is an ancient book of medicine. It claims the crystal's white waves can stimulate an individual's cells, and the black waves can link cells between individuals.

Alchemical Life Research, pt.2:
This so-called alchemical life is unstable, and keeping the resulting subjects alive comes at great difficulty.

D's Journal: An Adherent's Chronicle posted:

The Great Plague 1:
The terrible plague ravaging the world finally reached our shores. Already, there are those falling ill in villages to the east. To halt its spread to Orthodoxy headquarters, top officials of the faith have closed all roads and forbidden the influx of people and goods. Controversy arose when a young cleric appealed to his superiors to use the power of the Earth Crystal for purification and medical treatment.

The Great Plague 2:
But the proposal had no hope of approval, as we hold the crystals as sacred. The heirarchy ignored it. Refugees seeking to thwart the blockade were slain on sight, but the Orthodoxy claimed the dead were not victims but martyrs.

The End of the Plague 1:
The young cleric appealed to his superiors day after day to no avail. When the Great Plague showed signs of abating, the Orthodoxy was overjoyed. Those who had advocated the blockade were showered with praise.
Some days later, the young cleric was summoned before the Vestal, whereupon he was mocked and reprimanded for hours on end.

The End of the Plague 2:
The plague has wiped out his village of birth, save for a few who escaped, and there were many other villages within the faith's lands suffered the same fate. Henceforth, the young cleric was never again seen amongst the ranks of the Crystal Orthodoxy. Perhaps he was shipped to a post of no consequence, or left altogether.

The End of the World 1:
The Orthodoxy's head temple has already fallen, and it shall not be long now before my refuge, too, is discovered by the invaders. The Earth Vestal was dragged before their leader. It was the once young cleric--now a seasoned soldier, fearless and self-assured.

The End of the World 2:
The vestal faced him, hurling words of contempt and scorn, but ere she could finish, an enraged member of his guard cut her down in one fell swoop, and the vestal's lifeless body fell silently to the floor.

D's Journal: The Recapture of Eternia posted:

Reconquest Campaign 1:
Our uprising was lacking in everything--troops, armaments, cultivation of informants within the Orthodoxy... But the Crystal Orthodoxy would soon put their plans in motion. The debate between our Lord Templar and the sage continued. At the end of three days and three nights, our Lord Templar gave the order to strike. His family was to remain behind in this land.

Reconquest Campaign 2:
We departed before sunrise the next day. We procured weapons and ammunition in Ancheim and then slipped secretly into Eisenberg. From northern Eisenberg, three fortified airships took us across the highlands, at last entering the land of Eternia.

Reconquest Campaign 3:
An abridged listing of our main invasion forces follows.

The valiant usurper Braev the Templar (Our Lord Templar insisted we name him as "usurper.")

Reconquest Campaign 4:
Assault troops for the Temple of Earth:
They are to take the Earth Crystal and protect our crystal technology squad.
Swordmaster Nobutsuna Kamiizumi, Commander

Hayreddin Barbarossa, Lieutenant Commander

Dr. Vincent S. Court, Technology Squad Leader
(Accompanied by his ten-year-old son serving as his assistant)

Assault troops for the Orthodoxy's head temple:
They are to halt all of the institution's functions and seize all of its forbidden tomes and assets.
Sir Argent Heinkel, Commander

Fiore DeRosa, Lieutenant Commander

Barras Lehr, Officer-in-Training

Erutus Profiteur & Dr. Qada as auditors

Occupation forces for the city of Eternia:
These troops will be assigned to keeping the peace and preparing for the laying of the cables.

Ciggma Khint, Commander

Einheria Venus as his officer-in-training

Holly Whyte as a medic-in-training

Head Temple Occupation Memo 1:
Once the Temple of Earth fell and news of the earth vestal's demise reached the remaining resistance at the head temple, they quickly surrendered. The Orthodoxy's soldiers and leaders were stripped of their weapons and confined to the temple. The Lord Templar had strictly forbade us from rampant slaughter and maltreatment of the vanquished. None have yet disobeyed his order.

Head Temple Occupation Memo 2:
Those sympathetic to our cause were allowed to join us, while those who refused are to be released. As for Erutus Profiteur, the man sent to the treasure house to seize the Orthodoxy's assets, unsavory rumors about him soon began to circulate.

An investigation has begun into allegations of bribery by former Orthodoxy officials and the large-scale disappearance of Orthodoxy-owned artwork from the treasure house.

Head Temple Occupation Memo 3:
Dr. Qada, who has been tasked with deciphering the Orthodoxy's forbidden spells, is continuing with his clandestine meetings with my lieutenant, DeRosa. In comparison, the simple enthusiasm of Barras Lehr for more fighting is almost refreshing to see.

Eternian Occupation Journal 1:
A month has passed since our bloodless occupation of the city of Eternia, and the people are finally beginning to settle into their daily lives. Einheria, who was originally from this city, continues to doggedly patrol its streets, saying, "I shall defend the city that is home to my master's training grounds." The occupation force is also comprised of others from this land, and perhaps that is another reason for the easing of people's fears.

Eternian Occupation Journal 2:
A few days prior, it was announced that this land had been rechristened the Duchy of Eternia. A member of the royal bloodline that once ruled Eternia before the Crystal Orthodoxy was restored to power as archduke.

And naming himself Grand Marshal of the Eternian Forces, the Lord Templar began his tireless effort to build a new system of government.

Eternian Occupation Journal 3:
When Dr. Vincent S. Court proposed a great feat of engineering be erected in one corner of the city, it was approved at once. Great cables are to be extended from the Temple of Earth all the way to the city, but I know not their purpose.

The decreed construction schedule is extremely tight and will doubtless require additional laborers from among the people and former Orthodoxy members.

Eternian Occupation Journal 4:
I spotted medic-in-training Holly Whyte being scolded by Victor, a boy of the same age, for standing around and watching the construction.

werbear
Jan 14, 2017
I still remember when "had the ability to help but didn't" seemed comically evil for a government body or a religious institution.
It was a simpler time back then - or maybe I was just younger...

Anyways, I think it's quite funny how unguarded Everlast Tower is. The backdoor is essentially open and it is quite a ways from the Central Command without any guards stationed there.
Anyone not flying around in an actual city might just be able to sneak by the air defence and enter without anyone noticing.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Trying to make the cartoon supervillains we've been fighting come off as morally ambiguous is really a 'too little too late' thing

Mr. Locke
Jul 28, 2010

Pureauthor posted:

Trying to make the cartoon supervillains we've been fighting come off as morally ambiguous is really a 'too little too late' thing

Pretty much. This? This is too loving late. At least it still throws some shade on the really bad ones like Profiteur, but holy poo poo we're like twenty hours past the point of me caring the lady using White Magic to advance her latent sadism might have been part of an honest world-saving effort at one point. And this apathy at these characters not actually being cartoon supervillains is almost entirely because we've spent those twenty hours with them being cartoon supervillians with almost no redeeming qualities because Bravely Default only gives you exposition in text or dialog dumps way after the information is actually relevant.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Well.

At least you'll know this information on a future play through?

And anyway, the Orthodoxy deserved its fate.

I think it was wrong for Agnes and the Vestals of Fire and Water to suffer, but the Orthodoxy officials all brought this on themselves.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I feel like "Surprise, there's shades of grey" would've been a better twist had the Duchy mostly not been portrayed as cartoonishly evil up to this point.

Edit: And I see a good portion of the thread shares the same sentiment now that the forum is done crashing. :v:

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Yeah, this information doesn't really change anything.

Because there were always shades of grey. There were the cartoon villains. And there were the people that were doing their job to the best of their ability.

And it's still really strange that the latter was working with the former even if they have this history together.

Friend Commuter
Nov 3, 2009
SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.
Smellrose

Blademaster_Aio posted:

Well.

At least you'll know this information on a future play through?

And anyway, the Orthodoxy deserved its fate.

I think it was wrong for Agnes and the Vestals of Fire and Water to suffer, but the Orthodoxy officials all brought this on themselves.

Sure, the Orthodoxy's officials were a bunch of shitbags who got what they deserved, but that doesn't justify sending the War Crimes Brigade to invade the rest of the world.

hey girl you up
May 21, 2001

Forum Nice Guy

Friend Commuter posted:

Sure, the Orthodoxy's officials were a bunch of shitbags who got what they deserved, but that doesn't justify sending the War Crimes Brigade to invade the rest of the world.

Orthodoxy: Killed their people to end a plague rather than betray their faith to heal them. Did some shady politicking 2000 years ago.
Duchy: Killed the Orthodoxy's armies and leadership almost to a man, healed their people, invaded the rest of the world to take over using the most heinous methods, maybe doomed the world to catastrophe by killing off the orthodoxy
Our Party: Killed the Duchy's armies and leadership almost to a man, listened to our apparently evil fairy to awaken the crystals, probably are going to further doom the world next update?

:ohdear:

werbear
Jan 14, 2017
How are there still any people alive in RPG worlds?
So much ethnic cleansing everywhere and a party of rampaging mass murderers in between.

Quantum Toast
Feb 13, 2012

werbear posted:

How are there still any people alive in RPG worlds?
So much ethnic cleansing everywhere and a party of rampaging mass murderers in between.
Maybe this is why the average RPG country has a double-digit population.

DGM_2
Jun 13, 2012

werbear posted:

How are there still any people alive in RPG worlds?

Sometimes you get one that follows things through to the logical conclusion: Final Fantasy 2, Serpent Isle, Bastion...

DGM_2 fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 18, 2018

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I guess the monsters don't mess with the cables much? That seems like something you'd want security on.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Presumably the Duchy made sure they were housebroken.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
In any given JRPG, at least 60% of the population are just goblins and/or kobolds agents wearing disguises. One month after the main plot is finished, the revolution begins.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I want to say that something like this actual happens in Chrono Trigger.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Friend Commuter posted:

Sure, the Orthodoxy's officials were a bunch of shitbags who got what they deserved, but that doesn't justify sending the War Crimes Brigade to invade the rest of the world.

I never said it did.

Orthodoxy deserved fate, rest of world didn't.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I want to say that something like this actual happens in Chrono Trigger.

It’s... something they retconned into the DS rerelease to attempt to make the link to Chrono Cross a bit more solid.

In one of the bonus dungeons, you run into Dalton, an incredibly minor villain who’s full of himself. When you beat him there, he declares that he’s going to raise an army in the completely docile nation of Porre (the nation neighboring the protagonist’s home nation of Guardia). And in Cross, the Porre army invaded the El Nido Archipelago, and it’s very strongly implied that they destroyed Guardia.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
That sounds dumb.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Chrono Cross is mostly hurt instead of helped by its association with Trigger, I feel.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Regalingualius posted:

It’s... something they retconned into the DS rerelease to attempt to make the link to Chrono Cross a bit more solid.

There's also the bonus ending where everyone says to Marle 'hey princess, i see you're going out in disguise again' and 'there's no need to be ashamed of yourself princess!' and it's weird. Then the king shows a photo of her ancestor marrying a frogman and the realization hits her that she's part frogman.

It is silly, like most of CT's bonus endings.

Rosalie_A
Oct 30, 2011
I was really confused as to why everyone was dropping casual ending spoilers and then I realized this wasn't the Chrono Trigger thread.

Content: Oneshotting the next boss never gets old.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Summoning 201: Lightning and Ultimate

The party is a few steps away from the earth crystal, the final step in their goal of reviving the world. Before getting to that, let's take a brief detour to find the final two summons in the game.

It's been a while, so here's the relevant section of Mephilia the Summoner's notes:

D's Journal: Mephilia's Memo posted:

<1>
Girtablulu
..........................

Hresvelgr
Temple held in wind and sand's embrace.

Ziusudra's Sin
Foot of the mountain sundered by the holy war.

<2>

Promethean Fire
Temple bathed in searing flame.

Deus Ex
Ancient tower of prayer, buried in viscera wrought by man.

Susano-o
A crescent moon upon the frozen sea.

We've gotten everything but Deus Ex and Susano-o.

Also note back when we got Ziusudra's Sin in Mount Fragmentium, the related hint didn't mean much. Now, thanks to DeRosso, we know all about this so-called holy war.



After reaching Everlast Tower, the party gained access to their last summon, lightning-elemental Deus Ex. We'll get this one first.



Note that this is not the ultimate summon, Susano-o, which we gained access to earlier, after defeating Barbarossa back in Chapter 3.



Safety first: equipping a lightning-proof sword will give Edea all the protection she needs to avoid being electrocuted.



As for the rest of the party... well, Edea will make sure they get revived afterwards.

Deus Ex, by the way, is short for Deus Ex Machina, a latin term meaning 'God from the machinery'. The term is used in storytelling to denote a situation where a twist changes everything at the last minute with no forewarning -- as though God itself swooped down to change things up. The result is usually disorienting and frustrating for viewers, since there's no appropriate buildup to explain how the result came about.



So, what hell-beast lies in store for us this time?



Ah, television. The true demon of the pre-internet modern age.



The televisions pull back to reveal...



Okay, so we were actually looking at the face of a giant steampunk spider. That makes more sense.



The gears on either side of it wind up, generating electricity.







Which is then directed to the front screens.







Wait a sec, isn't Edea wearing a suit of metal armor?





Hope that sword with the rubber handle does the trick!





Yeah, no big deal.





One down, one to go.



A reminder of how :black101: Bravely Default summons are. Why have some old man wizard summoned when you could have a cursed clockwork spider instead?

Actually Ramuh is great, always a chill helpful guy.



Lastly, Susano-o. Mephilia, Suleiman, Barbarossa and countless others have had their lives ruined by the search for this elusive summon.



Anyway, he's right here.



Walking into the northwest corner of the northeastern isle leads the party straight to this guy.



As mentioned earlier, the party can't find him until they've defeated Barbarossa.



Not sure who sent these owlmen to hand out summons, but this fellow got the short straw for locations.

Susano-O is used in several pieces of Japanese media, and is originally referring to one of the most powerful Japanese Shinto gods. He is a god of sea and storms, brother of the gods of sun (Amaterasu) and moon (Tsukuyomi).



Come to think, how do you prepare for a summon with no element?

I don't think we want to fight yet.



First, raise everyone's magic defense. More HP helps too -- just to be sure, Agnes switches back to her good ol' first job, monk.

A short time later:



Some exercise is sure to help warm him up.



So far we've had a demon city scorpion, demon airplane bird, demon washing machine lady, demon train dragon, and demon television spider.



How will the ultimate summon match up?



We start off with a close up of a radio tower.



Which zooms out to be revealed as the weapon of... a giant demon?



In a forest of radio towers.



Whoops--



Looks like he noticed us.



In a motion almost too quick to be seen--



He strikes.





But the party's ready.



This time -- for once, only on the final summon of the game--



Everyone's survived.



We did what Mephilia, Suleiman, and Barbarossa failed to do. Now, perhaps somehow, they can find some measure of peace.



And that's it: We've now gotten every summon in Bravely Default.



Goodbye, birdmen.


Next: The party returns to Everlast Tower and saves the final crystal.

--

Event Viewer
Sub-Scenario:
The Anchorite of War

Greyarc fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Apr 25, 2018

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


I read that title as "Episode 201" and had to reflect for a moment about how many updates it's been.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I think Susano from Final Fantasy XIV was based on Susano-o from this game.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I think Susano from Final Fantasy XIV was based on Susano-o from this game.

Glad you pointed that out, because I'd forgotten to put in background info for Deus Ex and Susano-o. Added now.

The two Susano-os do refer to the same god, though FF14's seems a lot jollier than Bravely Default's version.

Greyarc fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 24, 2018

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I always loved Deus Ex's design.

It and Promethean Fire are my favourites.

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL
Deus ex machina dates all the way back to the Greek tragedies, where an actor playing a god would literally be hoisted into the air by a stage machine and suddenly resolve the plot. 2,500 years later, we're still using the term for anything that resembles the original usage.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!


I find this so funny for some reason.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Let's Learn Jobs: Vampire



Vampires learn the majority of their skills from monsters and thus take more effort to set up, but properly prepared they can be a fairly versatile all-in-one powerhouse.

Vampires take their main monster-skill-learning gimmick from Final Fantasy's Blue Mages, adding on a specialty for drain attacks.




Job and Job Command icons are of a vampire bat wing and vampire bat in flight, respectively.



Vampires are all-rounders, decent with both magical and physical actions as well as a good range of weaponry.



Blue are support abilities, red are skill abilities.

Level 1 - Genome Ability: Use a monster's ability.
Level 2 - Absorb P. Damage: Recover HP equal to 30% of physical damage taken. (Cost: 1)
Level 3 - Blood Thirst: Attack and restore HP equal to damage done.
Level 4 - Bloodlust: Physical and Magical Attack and Defense increase 25% for each enemy you defeat. (Cost: 1)
Level 5 - Charm: 75% chance to charm enemy target.
Level 6 - Magic Thirst: Attack enemy's MP for 10% of normal attack, recover same amount of own MP.
Level 7 - Monster Ability Up: Genome ability damage raised to 125%. (Cost: 1)
Level 8 - Battle Thirst: Absorb 1 BP from target. (16 MP)
Level 9 - Subvert: 50% chance to charm all enemies. (20 MP)
Level 10 - Self-Restore: Restore all HP at end of battle. (Cost: 1)
Level 11 - Absorb Stats: Absorb selected stat from target. (20 MP)
Level 12 - Drain Attack Up: Drain attack damage increased to 150%. (Cost: 1)
Level 13 - Genome Drain: Allows other jobs to equip the vampire specialty. (Cost: 1)
Level 14 - Rise from Dead: If K.O.'d, 50% chance to recover at end of turn; recovers HP to 25% of max. (Cost: 1)

The drain attacks are nice, but Genome Ability contains the bulk of the vampire's tricks, such as a powerful all-party heal (White Wind, which requires Charming Aero Lanterns), a wide assortment of status effects, and the only way to get -aja spells (extra Nemesis bosses via the Norende minigame).



D's Journal Bestiary entries indicate which abilities can be learned with <>, as shown here with Gastric Juices.



Genome Drain has no use outside of learning new abilities.



Also, only one character with Genome Drain needs to get hit by the ability for everyone to be able to use it forevermore.


This time around, the women and men have completely separate outfits. The men mimic DeRosso's classical taste, with a waistcoat over a formal shirt matched with trousers and a short cape. The women, in contrast, wear what is probably best described as Final Fantasy (Tetsuya Nomura-era) inspired bondage gear. This outfit was one of the major points of censorship in the game, with the black bikini under the belts being replaced by a black leotard for the Western release. The outfit is finished off with a pair of cute animal ears, because why not, you're already doing a goth-bunny-girl thing, just throw it on there.

Speaking personally, I consider it a shame the outfits are limited by gender. Tiz and Ringabel are denied the chance to show off their wild side, and Agnes and Edea would look fantastic in the men's elegant yet cute ensemble.








Vampire magic is so dark and cool

Greyarc fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 27, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
It's worth noting that there was a spin-off game called Bravely Default: Praying Brage had really skimpy official artwork of the female Vampires.

As in Edea and Agnes are practically naked and wearing only bondage straps on their upper bodies. :ohdear:

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






It's finally time for this Awkward Zombie gag.

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EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Truly, the most powerful of Vampire abilities.

Disappointment.

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