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Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

big nipples big life posted:

When you are a struggling musician the decision to play with an anime is easy if there are enough zeros involved. 2 may be enough if you are struggling real hard.

Let's fighting love

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Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

Scruffpuff posted:

After they're done working on future mission giver animations, they can work on the existence of future mission givers. Then when that's done, they can work on the future missions. When future missions are done, they will exist in the present. Once the missions are in the present, all CIG has to do is build a game to do the missions in.

The longer I look at this farce the more manual their every process appears to be. They sold this thing as a 100 star systems and 10 sextillion square miles to explore. Just listen to 2014 Chris talk about having a wide variety of procedural generated escort missions and factory shipments. So one would think they'd want to figure out a robust system for generating missions and NPCs to hand them out.

But no, they're hand placing less than a dozen stationary NPCs for fetch quests that take you on the same static location every time. They're incompetent and have absolutely no mastery of the engine to do anything but manually fill out questgiver_npc_08's default fields before compile.

Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Apr 24, 2018

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Beet Wagon posted:

Wait they have a real human band that goes around playing with that bodypillow?

Holy gently caress, and here I thought the most embarrassing job in the world was "being Ben Lesnick"

Also, I really haven't had enough coffee to deal with an in-depth debate over whether the blue-haired monstrosity in that video is or is not anime right now

Take the mod day off. Today is Battletech day with around 90 minutes to go. Instead of body pillows and poo poo we will now have giant robots to attend to.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Virtual Captain posted:

The longer I look at this farce the more manual their every process appears to be.

Yes.

We made the joke about procedurally hand-crafted for their outposts because the claims really don't actually amount to much, other than the tech demo that they're demonstrating at the time. A less cynical person would suggest that they're developing in a modular fashion, but that tends to require a plan, and a roadmap that is more than a 'like to have', because there's a very specific critical path to certain parts of development. They slammed into that hurdle extremely early on with the idea that they could fully subcontract entire chunks of the coding, but failed to establish the style and interface guide that would have informed things like the actual scale of the game.

There's a min-max game in the argumentation; We suggest that there isn't much to the 'game', the supporters simply point to all of things in isolation. That is in game, they will say, it might not work, be crippled or completely unbalanced, but it _appears_ to be there. We're looking for the viable product according to the promises made; they're defending the minimum viable product in the hope that they will get the product that we're looking for. We appear to be less taken with the illusion of progress, whereas the invested look at the disparate pieces and tell us that we're not seeing the big picture.

cf It's like talking to a Retarded.

Weirdly, this happens a lot with climate change because that's become a political debate whereas the actually science is pretty much just extrapolation of the laws of thermodynamics. People argue from a position of utter ignorance to preserve their viewpoint when there are _actual_ tests available. In SC terms; how many years to produce how many planets could be naively extended out to indicate that development time will take decades - sure, it's going to be skewed, but it'll come right *as they actually roll out promises*.

The SCTracker is literally the best thing we have at the moment because it keeps CiG 'honest'. They're literally trying to kick things behind the curtain now.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Colostomy Bag posted:

Take the mod day off. Today is Battletech day with around 90 minutes to go. Instead of body pillows and poo poo we will now have giant robots to attend to.

So, giant robot body pillows it is then

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

Hav posted:

If it's like my pictures, you're avoiding debugging some crunchy python 2.

I understand now. Theagent hired all the code monkeys of the thread, that's why Love Pledge is in development hell.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

Star Citizen is looking good. Might buy back in.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010







Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Quavers posted:

So, giant robot body pillows it is then



Uh, I've been around the block a few times but her codpiece would have me raising an eyebrow before fornication could begin.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Virtual Captain posted:

The longer I look at this farce the more manual their every process appears to be. They sold this thing as a 100 star systems and 10 sextillion square miles to explore. Just listen to 2014 Chris talk about having a wide variety of procedural generated escort missions and factory shipments. So one would think they'd want to figure out a robust system for generating missions and NPCs to hand them out.

But no, they're hand placing less than a dozen stationary NPCs for fetch quests that take you on the same static location every time. They're incompetent and have absolutely no mastery of the engine to do anything but manually fill out questgiver_npc_08's default fields before compile.

It reminds me of the central conceit behind the project, which the backers have conveniently forgotten: the "you are controlling the spaceman who is controlling the ship" fakeout that is intended to convey that everything you see in game universe isn't faked in any way. This is what created the dreams of blowing a hole in an enemy ship and using special equipment to board the ship, knocking out life support and gravity control so you need your helmet and you float around as you masturbate furiously using your own hand which is controlling your dick which is failing to maintain an erection.

All of it with no gaming fakery! It's all real and 2014 is getting stale and the power in the machines and the fidelity.

Now that they've got their balls in a vice, it's not even as good as a game that cheats. They are literally implementing mobile phone gaming mechanics layered on top in the cheapest way possible. This isn't even a PC game any more.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Hav posted:

Hatsune Miku is not 'an anime character'.

This is also not anime, but I know that I'm literally playing with fire;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNrdGx69pCo

Yes, he's into a Vocaloid. It's somehow worse.

I'll be in my bunk.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Scruffpuff posted:

I'll be in my bunk.

Enjoy the pillow.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Colostomy Bag posted:

Uh, I've been around the block a few times but her codpiece would have me raising an eyebrow before fornication could begin.

That's obviously a sump cover.

Scruffpuff posted:

It reminds me of the central conceit behind the project, which the backers have conveniently forgotten: the "you are controlling the spaceman who is controlling the ship" fakeout that is intended to convey that everything you see in game universe isn't faked in any way.

That's where I started having my doubts. That game already exists and is surgeon simulator.

Zzr posted:

I understand now. Theagent hired all the code monkeys of the thread, that's why Love Pledge is in development hell.

Our leadership is filled with hubris and cocktails.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

Would pet.

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013

Drunk Theory posted:

A dude with money to spend on overpriced everything. And he must share and promote everything he buys on twitter for validation. And yes, he self identifys with that Miku thing and posts about how he bought CIG pizza as well.

Also, he is proud to be like 70k deep in Star Citizen.

It's about as bad as i was expecting, and i am suddenly sorry i asked.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Neltharak posted:

It's about as bad as i was expecting, and i am suddenly sorry i asked.

Here in the star citizen thread we have such sights to show you

Broken man children collecting diabetes as well as literal trash from a dead video game

More broken man children desperately seeking attention by pretending to be furry animu vocaloids

The world's greatest actress, if only someone would notice her

Let's not forget children touchers, who were featured on one of the cig produced TV shows

Flared Basic Bitch
Feb 22, 2005

Invading your personal space since 1968.

Agony Aunt posted:

Its more of a D&D reference. When a wizard in D&D becomes a Lich they must craft a phylactery that they house their soul in. This makes them impossible to permanently destroy as long as their phylactery is safe.

Thread good again. Status: Rubbing to a mirrorlike sheen.

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013

Speaking of phylacteries what if star citizen's phylactery is chris roberts and that's why the game refuses to die ?

Flared Basic Bitch
Feb 22, 2005

Invading your personal space since 1968.

Hav posted:

Yes, he's into a Vocaloid. It's somehow worse.

What I’m experiencing right now must be how pgabz feels all the time.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos
Beet is a pro at inducing Star Citizen rage with calm, logical, and rational posting. It's pretty amazing.

Nebiros
Apr 25, 2013

The scarf is nice.

Neltharak posted:

Speaking of phylacteries what if star citizen's phylactery is chris roberts and that's why the game refuses to die ?

Chris is already one of Ortwin's horcruxes though. Chris and Skeletor Sandi are clearly being kept alive by the giant pile of money being sacrificed on an altar of computers trying to run the game. SC is just the infernal code keeping it all together.

It's too early to be funny, gently caress off. At least I get to play Battletech before work.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

Tinfoil Papercut posted:

Beet is a pro at inducing Star Citizen rage with calm, logical, and rational posting. It's pretty amazing.

To be fair, six plus years in preparation alpha and arguably with a broken state of mind any backer of this doesn't need much to go into rage.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

Beet Wagon posted:

Wait they have a real human band that goes around playing with that bodypillow?

Holy gently caress, and here I thought the most embarrassing job in the world was "being Ben Lesnick"

Also, I really haven't had enough coffee to deal with an in-depth debate over whether the blue-haired monstrosity in that video is or is not anime right now

and people paid to see that - that werent kids. holy poo poo. my life choices.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.

Hav posted:

Hatsune Miku is not 'an anime character'.

This is also not anime, but I know that I'm literally playing with fire;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNrdGx69pCo

Yes, he's into a Vocaloid. It's somehow worse.

Oh, so it's like that one movie Simone, with Al Pacino, but actually real?

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

This needs more quotes.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Operation You need a platinum account to view this message appears to be working

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013

Nebiros posted:

Chris is already one of Ortwin's horcruxes though. Chris and Skeletor Sandi are clearly being kept alive by the giant pile of money being sacrificed on an altar of computers trying to run the game. SC is just the infernal code keeping it all together.

It's too early to be funny, gently caress off. At least I get to play Battletech before work.

How's battletech ? I know speaking of non-kickstarted released game here is heresy but still :allears:

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

SelenicMartian posted:

This needs more quotes.

Seriously, the majesty of this has not been properly recognized.

quote:


Drunk Theory
Aug 20, 2016


Oven Wrangler

SelenicMartian posted:

This needs more quotes.

eh, not that it's not good. But I think I might be getting a bit oversaturated on Crobear.

JugbandDude
Jul 19, 2016

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun

Shine on you crazy diamond!

Neltharak posted:

How's battletech ? I know speaking of non-kickstarted released game here is heresy but still :allears:

Battletech was kickstarted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech

Shocking, I know. I have seen quite a bit of LPs and it looks pretty sweet, but I haven't taken the plunge yet.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Drunk Theory posted:

eh, not that it's not good. But I think I might be getting a bit oversaturated on Crobear.

When a man is tired of Crobear, he is tired of life. -- Samuel Johnson Ryan Archer

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013

JugbandDude posted:

Battletech was kickstarted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech

Shocking, I know. I have seen quite a bit of LPs and it looks pretty sweet, but I haven't taken the plunge yet.

I am a butt.

I'm on the fence about getting it, i'll wait for a friend to get it then steal it

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

JugbandDude posted:

Battletech was kickstarted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech

Shocking, I know. I have seen quite a bit of LPs and it looks pretty sweet, but I haven't taken the plunge yet.

Wait it's only a year late? and only took like 2.5 years to develop? They CLEARLY don't understand game development.

All kickstarted games that funded after Star Citizen should politely wait to release until SC is done so as not to make SC look bad or the whales and CR feel bad.

Tsar Mikey
Nov 30, 2005


When will then be now?



I really like how using Ortwin's expert legal defense ("I don't understand why we're being sued") and tweaking it a little bit gets the citizens riled up like nothing else.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Ortwin. The George Cantstandsya of law

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? Well if I had known I wouldn't have done it , because at my other employers we were doing the all the time !

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Neltharak posted:

How's battletech ? I know speaking of non-kickstarted released game here is heresy but still :allears:

Battletech not only gave me a game for my kickstarter pledge, but the very first callsign that came up for my character when I hit the "random" button was "Kayak," so as far as I'm concerned it's the best game that's ever been made.

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

Beet Wagon posted:

Battletech not only gave me a game for my kickstarter pledge, but the very first callsign that came up for my character when I hit the "random" button was "Kayak," so as far as I'm concerned it's the best game that's ever been made.

It's sad how these upstart new studios don't understand game development.

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013

Beet Wagon posted:

Battletech not only gave me a game for my kickstarter pledge, but the very first callsign that came up for my character when I hit the "random" button was "Kayak," so as far as I'm concerned it's the best game that's ever been made.

sold

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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Mr.Tophat posted:

May I remind you all this was called.

I am going to be doing a Star Citizen thread theme'd playthrough of Battletech. Details to come. PM me if you're dying to help or be part of it. I will be making a thread inside SCAM, and if it gets moved to let's play, so be it.

I propose the first law of justpostin' mech warrior goons be thus. Every single mech must have at least one flamer.

I am sure I do not need to explain this.

Our first goal is to ensure that our mechs cannot be doxxed via high quality technology and techniques.

You can add me. According to the xcom let's play I'm apparently really good with a sniper rifle. I'm sure that translates well into giant robot fighting. :black101:

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