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Flavius Belisarius posted:the idea of roasties should be the "it gets better" of inceldom, i don't know why they're so mad about it it started with dudes being frustrated they couldn't get laid, but their brains have been 24/7 boiled in an ever-thickening soup of rage and misogyny for over half a decade now now it's just about hating women and wanting absolute power over them in a grandiose and shared revenge fantasy
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Also it'd probably help if we stopped telling kids stories where the only way to be happy is through a relationship. In pop culture we've gotten away from the specific trope where the male protagonist gets a girl as a reward for his journey, which is good, although all the high profile incels right now were still kids when that was popular Also this. It certainly warped idiot teenage, conservative-rural region dwelling me's views on how relationships and sexuality were done. I'm a bit scared to consider how much different things could have been for me had I found an online echo chamber instead of facing how full of poo poo I was and taking steps to correct it.
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Pope Guilty posted:It's more than that, they want status. Intimacy is lower on Maslow's hierarchy than status so I think it's their primary concern. It would explain why so many of them say they wish they were women so they'd be wanted and cared for, even though women are lower-status than men
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Imagine going to a 19th century mining camp where everyone's prison gay because there aren't any women within 100 miles, and telling them that in over a hundred years there's going to be a whole movement of guys who can't get a girlfriend because everyone alienates themselves willingly.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Imagine going to a 19th century mining camp where everyone's prison gay because there aren't any women within 100 miles, and telling them that in over a hundred years there's going to be a whole movement of guys who can't get a girlfriend because everyone alienates themselves willingly. sure, but what if you also showed them anime, then they'd probably understand
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McGlockenshire posted:So I hopped over to 4chan to see what /pol/ and /r9k/ thought of the incel terror attack and it turns out that the entire site has been hosed for the past like eight hours for reasons that are not apparently clear. If it follows previous patterns expect a mass of threads about how (((they))) shut down the site so that /pol/ couldn't work together to prove it a false flag
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Flavius Belisarius posted:the idea of roasties should be the "it gets better" of inceldom, i don't know why they're so mad about it they have given up, if they ever really tried at first they are literally convinced you need to be 6'4 at least, model attractive (perfect facial symmetry, strong chin and jaw and probably other poo poo, the right caliper measurements or you're a craniumcel), ripped abs and the strength of Hercules with a 12 inch dick or you'll die a virgin. I would say you'd need to be funny, smart, and kind too but they don't seem to think personality matters and it's not hard to see why. and confidence is something that magically comes about when you look like the platonic Chad. fashion doesn't even enter into it exercise else is 'lookmaxing' if you don't tick all the boxes. that's the blackpill - you can never improve yourself and no one will ever love you they're all redeemable people but stuck in a place that reinforces this toxicity and they'll never get out of it if they don't leave Ague Proof has issued a correction as of 18:11 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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BurntCornMuffin posted:We could be a society where entire communities get together in the square every night for wild orgies like our randy caveperson forebears and these guys still wouldn't get any. Some of them are fuckable until they start talking. A giant orgy would probably get them laid.
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Al! posted:sure, but what if you also showed them anime, then they'd probably understand 19th century men would've intuitively understood the appeal of a child waifu who never ages.
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Ague Proof posted:they have given up, if they ever really tried at first The weird part about the ones who don't think personality matters is that they have to be familiar with Elliott Rodger, who was handsome and rich but had a repellent personality
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Ague Proof posted:they have given up, if they ever really tried at first They think that because more often than not, it's their own standards that are too high.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They think that because more often than not, it's their own standards that are too high. Aye, it's the same people who call any woman being over 120lbs a hambeast or whatever
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They think that because more often than not, it's their own standards that are too high. That goes back to the story thing also. Can you name a single modern myth where the male protagonist's love interest isn't just beautiful, but presented as the most beautiful woman in the narrative
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The weird part about the ones who don't think personality matters is that they have to be familiar with Elliott Rodger, who was handsome and rich but had a repellent personality NoTimeForCucks posted:My Mom Thinks Elliot Rodgers is Attractive Deleted posted:See how she used his looks to deny that he committed a crime? Ugly men automatically get blamed for all crimes. This is proof that lookism is real and that femoids are materialistic whores. Your own femom displayed her degeneracy. Note the first thoughts in her head. Report this incident to your dad, so he can discipline her with beatings. NoTimeForCucks posted:I thought the whole point of being blackpilled is the realization that being cringy/socially unaware doesn't matter because all that matters is looks. NoTimeForCucks posted:That's literal poo poo. I have a great personality yet they still hate me. the thread
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Kitfox88 posted:Aye, it's the same people who call any woman being over 120lbs a hambeast or whatever There was some heinous post around the time of The Fappening that I still think about sometimes, where some dude was hating on Jennifer Lawrence because she was so hot in the leaked photos, but now her cheeks were too fat.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They think that because more often than not, it's their own standards that are too high. NoTimeForCucks in that thread I linked said this when someone he was arguing with claimed they weren't an incel: NoTimeForCucks posted:I bet these girls were UGLY AS gently caress
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Ague Proof posted:they have given up, if they ever really tried at first And their platonic ideal of a Chad is hideously warped.   Their ideal image of masculinity is a chiseled square.
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Apr 24, 2018 18:20
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chitoryu12 posted:And their platonic ideal of a Chad is hideously warped. are they making their eyes smaller?
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chitoryu12 posted:And their platonic ideal of a Chad is hideously warped. This is Bogdanof Face as Hell
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What do you expect from a group who popularized several memes that roughly parse to "I'm retarded."
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chitoryu12 posted:And their platonic ideal of a Chad is hideously warped. Well those faces do look more masculine/handsome
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Dressing 5min Thinking about goals 3min Conceptualizing a personal philosophy 2min Posting about how I'm subhuman with my internet friends for lulz 5hr Playing Videogames 6hr Watching People Playing Videogames 4hr someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my manhood is dying
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Dressing 5min Spend less time dressing.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:That goes back to the story thing also. Can you name a single modern myth where the male protagonist's love interest isn't just beautiful, but presented as the most beautiful woman in the narrative And then you get genius thought leaders like Jordan Peterson, telling these risk factor kids “In fact the Hero’s Journey is how men have been able to accomplish everything in history, so better wear good walking shoes bucko”
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Jeb! Repetition posted:My theory is that for a lot of incels it's not actually specifically about the sex. They want a relationship and sex is the synecdoche They want masculinity that they don't have and have decided they can't ever have
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BurntCornMuffin posted:We could be a society where entire communities get together in the square every night for wild orgies like our randy caveperson forebears and these guys still wouldn't get any. Likely because they're either out self-sabotaging themselves because of their perception of BurntCornMuffin posted:Also this. It certainly warped idiot teenage, conservative-rural region dwelling me's views on how relationships and sexuality were done. I'm a bit scared to consider how much different things could have been for me had I found an online echo chamber instead of facing how full of poo poo I was and taking steps to correct it. If we did have a wild orgy society, incels would never exist. They didn't grow up in the wild orgy society, they grew up in the '80s/90s, in some lovely suburb. People are molded by their surroundings, changing a society is for the future, not for the present. Nobody can fix an incel besides themself, but we could prevent incels from developing.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The weird part about the ones who don't think personality matters is that they have to be familiar with Elliott Rodger, who was handsome and rich but had a repellent personality But he was short and half-Asian, therefore unfuckable by ridiculous
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hackbunny posted:
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:If we did have a wild orgy society, incels would never exist. They didn't grow up in the wild orgy society, they grew up in the '80s/90s, in some lovely suburb. People are molded by their surroundings, changing a society is for the future, not for the present. Nobody can fix an incel besides themself, but we could prevent incels from developing. If incels were being dialectical then their political mission would be to resolve all of society's hosed up sexual pathologies, to prevent something like themselves from ever happening again - but instead because the culture is all so self-oriented they withdraw within themselves and it becomes part of their identity.
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pookel posted:But he was short and half-Asian, therefore unfuckable by ridiculous Dennis Kucinich married an elf and the fuckers still think looks matter I mean, they do, but only if you have literally nothing else to offer
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Grimoire posted:Dennis Kucinich married an elf and the fuckers still think looks matter 90% of these guys think Kucinich's wife is too tall.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If incels were being dialectical then their political mission would be to resolve all of society's hosed up sexual pathologies, to prevent something like themselves from ever happening again - but instead because the culture is all so self-oriented they withdraw within themselves and it becomes part of their identity. Collectivism is bad
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A real nietzschean ubermench never lets anything go and fixates on sexual pathology to get the sort of steely dead-heart determination necessary for a high K/D ratio. Sort of like Goku powering up except you think so hard about a girl scowling at your baby penis that you reach the fabled dark enlightenment.
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Grimoire posted:Dennis Kucinich married an elf and the fuckers still think looks matter Danny DeVito married and had kids. That's the sole data point you need to prove incels wrong about their 
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What i think these boys need is a strong leather daddy to lock them in the gimp box and tach them to find pleasure in their extreme self-loathing and shame. You know, like a normal person.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Incels != white supremacists necessarily. Unless the dude was a Canadian Nazi in addition to an incel? Find one that’s not. Resentment and deep entitlement make those things run together. Also: find a nazi who’s not a no self-esteem womanhater.
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