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Can't talk Interdictors without getting into the EU, there was an Interdictor in like every other story because it was the only way to take care of the "why don't they just jump to lightspeed to escape?" problem.
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I’m only Talking about live action movies in here.
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Apr 24, 2018 15:37
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Basebf555 posted:Can't talk Interdictors without getting into the EU, there was an Interdictor in like every other story because it was the only way to take care of the "why don't they just jump to lightspeed to escape?" problem. Rebels is just as canonical as the films; interdictors got pulled out of Legends and into the Story Group Canon.
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Apr 24, 2018 15:37
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Haha Smaller Han just accidentally revealed that they have him on the hook for three movies
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Apr 24, 2018 15:38
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euphronius posted:I’m only Talking about live action movies in here. oh, ya, I was just talking about canon I guess
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Apr 24, 2018 15:38
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I’m not watching rebels to talk about the Star Wars films.
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Apr 24, 2018 15:39
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Ingmar terdman posted:Haha Smaller Han just accidentally revealed that they have him on the hook for three movies Gonna bet he doesn't really have to worry about that. Unless they're making a Donglover Lando movie 
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Apr 24, 2018 15:39
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PostNouveau posted:Gonna bet he doesn't really have to worry about that. Yeah I've got a feeling that whatever plans they had they may shuffle around to retool a movie to be a Lando vehicle
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Apr 24, 2018 15:40
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Yea I think even if they never do a direct sequel to Solo they'll definitely touch on this period time again with future Star Wars Stories and having Han pop up as a side character would be kinda fun.
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Apr 24, 2018 15:41
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euphronius posted:I’m not watching rebels to talk about the Star Wars films. fair, but canon is canon, so it will work the same way in the movies too when it gets addressed
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Apr 24, 2018 15:42
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That Darth Vader comic is alright, they should probably make a movie out of that instead of like "Yoda" or "Jabba" or whatever bullshit they're planning.
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Apr 24, 2018 15:44
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eonwe posted:fair, but canon is canon, so it will work the same way in the movies too when it gets addressed That isn't relevant to how concepts are presented in films already produced.
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Apr 24, 2018 16:05
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the movie and show portrayals line up pretty good to me, and future movies will definitely take it into account so it seems relevant enough to me
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Apr 24, 2018 16:31
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PostNouveau posted:That Darth Vader comic is alright, they should probably make a movie out of that instead of like "Yoda" or "Jabba" or whatever bullshit they're planning. The Huttfather
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Apr 24, 2018 17:31
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RBA Starblade posted:The Huttfather Marlon Brando Hutt is already canon
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Apr 24, 2018 17:34
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eonwe posted:the movie and show portrayals line up pretty good to me, and future movies will definitely take it into account so it seems relevant enough to me The films are certainly relevant to the shows, and the shows may or may not be relevant to movies going forward, but that can't work in the other direction. The original films were not meant to be understood in context with a show made nearly forty years afterwards, and relying on the later show as evidence for how things work is conceding that the original films don't support that line.
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Apr 24, 2018 18:12
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:No, because he fully escapes at the point that he jumps into the hole. euphronius posted:Going to hyperspace has nothing to do with speed This clearly is not the case, or the cruiser in The Last Jedi would not have passed through the First Order fleet. There is absolutely an element of acceleration (and deceleration) to hyperspace. You can see this visually in the Original films as ships seem to decelerate out of hyperspace. Ships don't merely blink into existence, they're clearly in motion.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:09
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Basebf555 posted:Can't talk Interdictors without getting into the EU, there was an Interdictor in like every other story because it was the only way to take care of the "why don't they just jump to lightspeed to escape?" problem. I actually liked that, made spacefights more interesting.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:21
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Ammanas posted:This clearly is not the case, or the cruiser in The Last Jedi would not have passed through the First Order fleet. There is absolutely an element of acceleration (and deceleration) to hyperspace. You can see this visually in the Original films as ships seem to decelerate out of hyperspace. She engaged the warp drive not the regular space drive that they used to outrun the first order fleet In the falcon it the handle that Han pushes forward and barely or never works because it’s a piece of poo poo space ship
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Apr 24, 2018 19:28
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Ammanas posted:This clearly is not the case, or the cruiser in The Last Jedi would not have passed through the First Order fleet. There is absolutely an element of acceleration (and deceleration) to hyperspace. You can see this visually in the Original films as ships seem to decelerate out of hyperspace. han wasn't talking about how quickly his ship jumps into the hole after he presses the button
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Apr 24, 2018 19:29
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This isn’t like Back to the future where you have to go 88 mph or whatever which also makes no sense at all.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:30
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Ammanas posted:This clearly is not the case, or the cruiser in The Last Jedi would not have passed through the First Order fleet. There is absolutely an element of acceleration (and deceleration) to hyperspace. You can see this visually in the Original films as ships seem to decelerate out of hyperspace. euphronius posted:She engaged the warp drive not the regular space drive that they used to outrun the first order fleet Whichever one of these is actually true in the context of the fake science of Star Wars doesn't matter. What does matter is that the narrative effect of the jump to hyperspace is more like jumping in a hole than running fast. Basically any ship can jump into the hole. The Millenium Falcon being fast when it's in the hole would be utterly meaningless because at that point they can't be chased anymore.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:30
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Also the Falcon is slow and Han is a liar. And the Solo movie should not have been made.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:31
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An interdictor probably would have been a better reason for the fleet chase in TLJ. We can't go to light speed, but it works in our favor too because they can't jump to us.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:33
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What does the line "She'll make point five past lightspeed" mean if hyperspace doesn't connote movement? Why is jumping into a hole represented by an image of the ship accelerating away?
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Apr 24, 2018 20:03
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The ships have regular thrusters and then the warp drive thrusters Every ship is similarly fast using warp drive. Distinctions are not apparent from the films. You engage your warp drives and you go to hyperspace. This is magic and no one knows how it works. Ships have all different kinds of regular thrusters and maneuverability tho, reminiscent of WW 2 naval actions. We know how these work since they are grounded in WW 2 movies.
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Apr 24, 2018 20:06
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I think the line about "point five past lightspeed" suggests that there is a concept of differing speeds in hyperspace.
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Apr 24, 2018 20:11
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You are taking was Solo says at face value.
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Apr 24, 2018 20:14
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Even if he is lying, what about it suggests that it's a nonsense statement? Why boast about a conceptual impossibility? If being faster in hyperspace isn't a thing, why not lie about something that is?
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Apr 24, 2018 20:16
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Why say your uncle works for Nintendo?
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Screenshotting this thread so The Invention of Lying (2009 D.P. Tim Surhstedt) can finally be on one of those 'A Perfect Shot' social media accounts
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Apr 24, 2018 20:51
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Why say your uncle works for Nintendo? There are uncles who work for Nintendo. If you wanted to deceive somebody, you wouldn't say "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
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Apr 24, 2018 21:03
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He also says he made the Kessl run in 13 parsecs which is nonsense.
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Apr 24, 2018 21:05
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euphronius posted:He also says he made the Kessl run in 13 parsecs which is nonsense. That's explainable as navigational talk but I'm not sure exactly how to explain ".5 past lightspeed". Oh well, I guess we're not gonna find a totally consistent answer on this one!
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Apr 24, 2018 21:08
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When Han Solo told Leia he loved her in RoTJ he was lying. Apparently nothing Han Solo ever says is the truth because he's a liar and a scoundrel and a nerf hearder.
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Apr 24, 2018 21:12
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This one did not go there. And That one doesn't go there.
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Apr 24, 2018 21:16
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AndyElusive posted:When Han Solo told Leia he loved her in RoTJ he was lying. He knew he wasn't going to see that guy in Hell.
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Apr 24, 2018 21:17
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I guess they call it hyper drive , not warp drive Mea culpa.
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thrawn527 posted:He knew he wasn't going to see that guy in Hell. That shot wasn't one in a million and if any of you actually believed that then lol.
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Bongo Bill posted:What does the line "She'll make point five past lightspeed" mean if hyperspace doesn't connote movement? That line is referring to a speed. Hyperspace is a space. Han’s top speed inside of hyperspace is the same as outside, but distance inside hyperspace is compressed. Han is not going faster; he is effectively shrinking the universe around them to bring the destination closer. This is not a concept invented for Star Wars. Lucas took the hyperspace concept from Asimov. The entire point is to fudge a way for ships to travel vast distances without breaking the light-speed limit (or, in Han’s case, the marginally-faster-than-lightspeed limit).
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