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Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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gradenko_2000 posted:

Apparently this is also the timeline where the Allies have developed the GBU Paveway munition some 50 years ahead of OTL.

Or they've developed some kinda dive bombing doctrine for their strategic bombers or something? It's as good a theory as any.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

Or they've developed some kinda dive bombing doctrine for their strategic bombers or something? It's as good a theory as any.
a dive bombing Superfort would be a thing to behold

kibaces
Jul 11, 2016

Wow talk about late christmas gifts!
thanks for the links man, now I think i'm going to retire from society until I finish them

whitewhale
Feb 21, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

a dive bombing Superfort would be a thing to behold

Could this be the timeline that the Allies adopt Kamikaze super fortress strikes? Just fill the bomb bay with concrete and go slam into something.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I would guess in that particular instance the bombers are just hitting the port, and incidentally get a couple ships that are tied up at pier.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Oh my. Let me post the damage report separately, so not to cover any off this mass of unescorted ships two hexes south of Rabul.



This one can only look good in the papers.



The sun comes up, and their day gets worse.



The Kido Butai fend off an attack.



Most of their planes go north rather than south.



The ones that do go south make their torpedoes count though.



We take out some bombers.



My Banzai charges make some headway!






Well today was absolute murder!



They must be getting used to explaining the loss of 15 ships in a day for no reply.
The surface raiders have rearmed and are going back out!

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.


:captainpop:

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I mis-read the damage chart and thought you had lost a bunch of cruisers to unescorted transports!

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

25 April 1944

The real war is, uh, not as dramatic. German torpedo boat TA-23 (ex-Italian Impavido) strikes a mine laid by the now-Allied Italian torpedo boat Sirio.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Togo smiles on this day

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

And there are still a lot of crippled ships left behind that are gonna have a bad day tomorrow.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Fifteen sunk transports and.. Not even a hundred casualties? Did they already unload or were they just.. Randomly wandering towards Rabaul fully empty?

Also one day swarming, rearmed by evening - that's a pretty quick turnaround to go out the next day.

mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

Were there no escorts? Or at least a guy with a boomerang on the deck or something? Why are that many transports less than 100 nautical miles from an active hostile naval base with zero protection? It's like Japan Grey is playing against time traveling Bizarro Allies Grey, who has managed to launch even more ill-advised missions than we saw in the other LP

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd
Where is the USN? Why does the AI just keep smashing massive unescorted convoys into the jaws of the IJN?

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I guess having a massive advantage in ship production is going to mean very little if the AI keeps sending them all into or near Grey’s main ports.

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
Another decoy flotilla! Prepare for the real attack!

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013

Kibayasu posted:

I guess having a massive advantage in ship production is going to mean very little if the AI keeps sending them all into or near Grey’s main ports.

At some point the AI will run out of transports and have to start using the 30-40 CV's they've built up in the interim.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


sniper4625 posted:

Where is the USN?

Bottom of the ocean, mostly. Except for the 20 CV's all tethered up edge to edge in Pearl having a massive block party.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.
When they arrive, they will be inexplicably full of tanks and paper pushers.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

When the time comes, does the American player have to handle the logistics of getting the bomb from the American West to a base via ship, then onto a b29?

Because it’s absolutely going to be on an unescorted xAK they just drive into Rabaul harbor like a suicide bomber.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Ron Jeremy posted:

When the time comes, does the American player have to handle the logistics of getting the bomb from the American West to a base via ship, then onto a b29?

Because it’s absolutely going to be on an unescorted xAK they just drive into Rabaul harbor like a suicide bomber.

No. What does happen is that only the historically appropriate B-29 squadron can perform the A-bomb mission, so if you somehow manage to shoot down the bomber during the mission, or even kill the squadron on the ground or on a ship*, you can prevent the drop from happening.

* unfortunately I think B-29s have the legs to ferry themselves from Cali to the Pacific FEBA without needing to be packed into ships

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT
Holy poo poo, hahahahaha. You probably have people trying to get drafted into the army rather than the navy in this timeline.

whitewhale
Feb 21, 2013

Top Hats Monthly posted:

Holy poo poo, hahahahaha. You probably have people trying to get drafted into the army rather than the navy in this timeline.



'Sir, we have a place for you in the merchant marine'





'Tell my wife I loved her...'.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

sniper4625 posted:

Where is the USN? Why does the AI just keep smashing massive unescorted convoys into the jaws of the IJN?

The world wonders.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Ardeem posted:

When they arrive, they will be inexplicably full of tanks and paper pushers.
The USN is refitting all carriers with extenable ramps, so the tanks can roll off the flight parking deck straight into action. :v:

mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

Well it's not like CVs are very useful in naval action, so they might as well do something to help our brave soldiers. Now let me tell you about the supremacy of the mighty battleship...

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

mercenarynuker posted:

Well it's not like CVs are very useful in naval action, so they might as well do something to help our brave soldiers. Now let me tell you about the supremacy of the mighty battleship...

Weren't carriers used as troop transports during the post-surrender return of forces Stateside?

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


"The Pacific Ocean is over 62 million square miles, the odds of them finding our fleets are astronomical." - United States, probably

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Ardeem posted:

When they arrive, they will be inexplicably full of tanks and paper pushers.

How does a CV drop off tanks in the harbor? Just beach the whole ship? Flying tanks?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


The tanks have been welded to the deck as makeshift gun emplacements during the emergency refits after Milne Bay proved battleships are the future.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Some insane planners in the USA read too much Roman history, and figured that since they can't beat Japan in a naval battle that they'll just produce (read: sink) enough metal sheets so that the army can march from California to Japan in the worlds largest boarding action.

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake
After seeing a thing yesterday about how parts of France and Belguim are still toxic from WWI, I'm legitimately curious how hosed the south pacific's ecosystems are at this point.

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
In another L.P. run by Libluini (Masters Of Orion) the game engine has a limitation on how many ships can be present In a battle. So if you send space fleets and a transport fleets together, if there are too many fleets the game picks at random which goes into battle. I think this is the situation here, and the game just picked all transports. Next turn will roll the battleships and carriers.

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
Closing in to the 5000 points to autovictory mark!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

punched my v-card at camp posted:

After seeing a thing yesterday about how parts of France and Belguim are still toxic from WWI, I'm legitimately curious how hosed the south pacific's ecosystems are at this point.

hosed, but more due to global warming. While sunken ships have a ton of nasty chemicals and oil, the ocean is huge and currents help diffuse the mess to levels that can be handled. Also water does help mitigate the problem of UXO. I wouldn't go scuba diving in Pearl Harbor, but that's because it's an active port. Truk has a ton of shipwrecks and is popular with divers.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Would a CA sized shore bombardment deal with American tanks?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

wedgekree posted:

Fifteen sunk transports and.. Not even a hundred casualties? Did they already unload or were they just.. Randomly wandering towards Rabaul fully empty?

Also one day swarming, rearmed by evening - that's a pretty quick turnaround to go out the next day.

Following the last fleet engagement, the USN realized that Rabaul lacks sufficient dockyard capacity to restock the ammunition on Japan's fighting ships. The Allies will therefore send wave after wave of empty, undefended transports until Japan's ships reach their preset kill limit and shutdown run out of ammunition and can be sunk by the 2-3 battleships the Allies have left.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

"Hey, Bull, how many ships do you think it would take to fill the Pacific?"

"Aw, I don't know, let's find out!"

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Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
Somewhere in PacCOM:

Logistical Officer: Sir, are you SURE we shouldn't protect those transports with ships with offensive capability.
Some Vice Admiral: they'll never see it coming, that's what makes it such a brilliant plan.

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