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I don't know how many more dozens of accounts of people starting with Peterson before becoming incels or alt-right white supremacists there can be before people start accepting that he's a major pathway toward those groups.
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If you're functional enough to take whatever shreds of sanity exist in Peterson's drivel without the toxic bits damaging you, then you're functional enough to not need any of Peterson's nonsense in the first place.
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Those of you who want a sense of community but without the dogma should check out things like the Unitarian Universalists, or service organizations like the Lions Club, or even volunteering for community organizations ranging from bike co-ops to actual not racist citizen patrol and community outreach programs like the Bear Clan Patrol.
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I was talking about the attack with my co-worker yesterday and she mentioned how she was talking to a friend of hers and the attack made him do a lot of soul searching. He mentioned how when he was younger he had a lot of the same feelings as the incels do, isolation, anger, rejection etc. The one thing that helped him was that he went to some social camp thing (I forgot the name) and it forced him to come out of his shell, interact with other people who were different than him and made him change as a person. He said that the attack made him realise that if he hadn't had that experience he probably would have ended up in the incel community himself. The thing that I am noticing about incels is that it is a community of sorts, one that attracts these isolated losers and gives them rules and ideas to justify their anger. It's a toxic community and sadly because it is online it means that these idiots never have to leave their house to actually interact with others.
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infernal machines posted:Thank you, Slavoj. But what if the opposite were true?
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Utgardaloki posted:shockingly enough, when you hitch your wagon to systemic violence you don't ever have to go and get your hands dirty yourself. 
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THC never change please.
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Madkal posted:The thing that I am noticing about incels is that it is a community of sorts, one that attracts these isolated losers and gives them rules and ideas to justify their anger. It's a toxic community and sadly because it is online it means that these idiots never have to leave their house to actually interact with others. It's basically the same thing that any sort of radical group counts on for recruitment. Find isolated/vulnerable people, tell them that whatever makes them unhappy isn't their fault, direct them towards your preferred enemy as a target for their anger, and surround them entirely with other indoctrinated people so they'll never have that worldview challenged. It's not a coincidence that you see a lot of similar philosophy coming from groups as disparate as incels or ISIS or neo nazis.
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The idea that there needs to be a replacement for the role church used to play keeps coming up, and I think it has some credence. I'm what might be described as a Christian atheist myself, and attend a United church for this reason. Where Peterson goes wrong is he fails to distinguish form from content. The intrinsically valuable part of church is the form - a supportive emotionally-rich community. The content *can* be useful, but is subject to change. At my church we selectively use biblical stuff (supplemented with Harry Potter and Star Wars and etc.), but recognise that bronze age legal and social norms are mostly bizarre and awful nowadays. Peterson and his followers seem stuck on the idea that those ancient norms are the secret sauce, rather than the practice of social solidarity - thus providing fuel for incels.
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 Looks like Faith Goldy can't come to Waterloo for a talk hosted by everyone's favourite Ex-Leftist. https://twitter.com/NewWorldHominin/status/989247171881979904 e:  https://twitter.com/partnardy/status/989300292448550912
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Leofish posted:
Wonderful evidence in favour of de-platforming
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Leofish posted:
They're so, so close to realizing they want to go full fash and admitting it openly.
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How dare The Left force ideas like the equality of all persons down our throats.
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flakeloaf posted:How dare The Left force ideas like the equality of all persons down our throats. Are you the annoying antifa guy who always shows up with the hammer sickle flag?
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PT6A posted:They're so, so close to realizing they want to go full fash and admitting it openly. Oh Government, you're so bad. Pull my hair! Step on my throat! Harder daddy, harder!
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It's pretty funny that they tried to go to UW after the failed attempt at Laurier and then were scared off by sticker shock.
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It's also funny because Faith Goldy and Lindsay Shepard have both had way more media attention and national interest than any of the 'antifa' protesting their events.
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Leofish posted:
I want to post a bunch of links from that thread but won't. It's amazing the number of people complaining FREE SPEECH IS DEAD. They seem to think they're owed a platform to bash muslims and (((globalists)))
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Reince Penis posted:I want to post a bunch of links from that thread but won't. It's amazing the number of people complaining FREE SPEECH IS DEAD. They seem to think they're owed a platform to bash muslims and (((globalists))) imo your right to free speech ends where my right not to spend $28,000 for security at your event begins, but I'm clearly a cultural marxist sjw libtard so what do I know about rights and freedoms
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Don't you idiots realize how close we were to having Shepherd tear down the entire intellectual edifice of white nationalism?quote:I had my own questions for Goldy planned: wouldn’t a theoretical “white ethnostate” be rather dull and homogenous? Doesn’t a diversity of cultures in Canada enhance our perceptions of the world and understanding of one another? "If we ethnically cleanse Canada then who will make my falafels?" is exactly the kind of hard hitting question that would stop the rise of white naitonalism in its tracks, if only Antifa would stop getting in the way.
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This is a cool website that lets you play with sliders and try and save the world from climate change https://policysolutions.pembina.org/scenarios/home Conclusion: We won't reach 2030 Paris targets unless we do everything now(like the whole world), we are hosed
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Helsing posted:Don't you idiots realize how close we were to having Shepherd tear down the entire intellectual edifice of white nationalism? This was answered by Rowan Atkinson over 30 years ago. "I like curry, but now that we've got the recipe, is there really any need for them to stay?" In other hot takes, Jonathan, Son of Barbara, is muting people on Twitter who is criticizing his latest column. https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/989458677789704192 https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/989524897058537472
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White folks with racist grandmas don't like you calling their grandma's racism racist
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Andrew Wilkinson, the leader of the BC Liberal Party, is a bit fact challenged https://twitter.com/woodfordchnl/status/988468838592270336?s=21 https://twitter.com/woodfordchnl/status/989220791777554432?s=21
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DariusLikewise posted:This is a cool website that lets you play with sliders and try and save the world from climate change Got us there or thereabouts in the end by applying almost every single policy lever they gave me, but in the end the big difference came from levying a carbon tax on all industries that was as high as the application would let me. 
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THC posted:Andrew Wilkinson, the leader of the BC Liberal Party, is a bit fact challenged Nice own goal, moran.
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DariusLikewise posted:This is a cool website that lets you play with sliders and try and save the world from climate change Very cool. I can do my own research I suppose, but it would be nice if they linked to data/articles explaining the present and realistic future of each of the million different variables they let you play with.
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Stickarts posted:Very cool. I can do my own research I suppose, but it would be nice if they linked to data/articles explaining the present and realistic future of each of the million different variables they let you play with. Most of the variables seem like "trap options" that don't really move the graph at all. Just go in with a huge carbon tax on everything and let the market sort it out seems to be the main point of the "simulator".
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Baronjutter posted:Most of the variables seem like "trap options" that don't really move the graph at all. Just go in with a huge carbon tax on everything and let the market sort it out seems to be the main point of the "simulator". Regulating Industry and putting a hard stop on Coal/Gas power plants gives you pretty good results as well. Shifting HDV to electric has much more of an effect than subsidizing passenger electric as well. Basically all the things our governments are too afraid to do.
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Baronjutter posted:Most of the variables seem like "trap options" that don't really move the graph at all. Just go in with a huge carbon tax on everything and let the market sort it out seems to be the main point of the "simulator". Those drat cultural Marxists. I will repeat my request from a month or go, but if anyone has a federal income/corporate tax slider in the same vein as that resource where you can adjust various rates to see corresponding revenue I would love to see it. fake edit: Here's a couple I found that are close-ish, if you want to play with Canadian revenue. Infrastructure deficit calculator: http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/infrastructure-calculator/ American budget version: http://usa.v1.abalancingact.com/ Hilariously, the G and M has one of these from a few years back but, strangely, only lets you choose from a curated list of budget cuts?  https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/the-budget-challenge-think-you-can-balance-ottawas-books/article9833169/ Oop - think I found one close to what I wanted. Government of Canada tool that lets you adjust various personal and corporate tax rates across various brackets to see corresponding revenue changes. http://www.readyreckoner.ca/?locale=en-CA Stickarts fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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THC posted:Andrew Wilkinson, the leader of the BC Liberal Party, is a bit fact challenged Why and how are the BC Libs so stupid and incompetent
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CLAM DOWN posted:Why and how are the BC Libs so stupid and incompetent The Okanagan.
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BGrifter posted:The Okanagan. Truly representatives of the people.
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BGrifter posted:The Okanagan. As someone who actually lives in Kelowna, can I just say I'm really sorry about Christy Clark. 
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An oil refinery in Wisconsin blew up:CBC posted:Fire reignites at Husky Energy oil refinery in Wisconsin after being put out Coincidentally: Calgary Herald posted:Slower growth ahead for key oilsands producers as logjams hit output Maybe those pipelines aren't needed anymore, political crisis averted.
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