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Apr 26, 2018 20:18
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the answer is obvious, you people are morons. It was the Wendol.
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Apr 26, 2018 20:18
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It was a plague. The Axe Plague. Symptoms include fever, sweating, broken bones, death, and axe wounds to the face. Highly contagious.
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Apr 26, 2018 20:22
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Bolivian invasion
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Apr 26, 2018 20:23
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Some dudes that had a huge beef and really wanted to send a message. Worked too, that message is still heard to this day 
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Apr 26, 2018 20:28
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The villagers were starting to talk all syncopated and weird and the killers were linguistic purists.
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Apr 26, 2018 20:55
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It was the Korean empire sending a message
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Apr 26, 2018 21:00
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Squalid posted:One of the articles I read noted that although they found lots of hidden jewelry and Roman coins, remarkably they recovered almost no weaponry. They suggested these items may have been taken, possibly as a trophy or offering. Or all the defenders of the place lost a battle somewhere else first?
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Apr 26, 2018 21:06
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Maybe the most desirable loot was humans the deaths are all "worthless" people (too old or young).
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Apr 26, 2018 21:17
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LingcodKilla posted:Maybe the most desirable loot was humans the deaths are all "worthless" people (too old or young). You'd think if they were taking a bunch of slaves they'd also take all the slave's nice stuff. Maybe something caused mass delirium for some reason? Spoiled food or water supply maybe, or some particular disease. Everyone goes insane and murders each other and the survivors or survivor holes up with all the weapons somewhere out of paranoia.
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Apr 26, 2018 21:24
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CoolCab posted:You'd think if they were taking a bunch of slaves they'd also take all the slave's nice stuff. Perhaps people to be enslaved were considered inferior along with their tools and belongings. I dunno.
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Apr 26, 2018 21:27
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From video games I can tell you that I sometimes make the mistake of lighting things on fire before looting them. It's an easy mistake to make.
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Apr 26, 2018 21:35
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I keep reading about Chinese emperors having people kill themselves with poison, and it makes me wonder. Do we know what kind of poison they made them drink?
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Apr 26, 2018 22:07
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Probably not true, but a fun story: allegedly the Chinese would put venomous scorpions, snakes, and centipedes in a sealed jar where they'd kill and devour each other. The last survivor would therefore be extra potent and toxic and used to create poisons. In reality they probably figured out what herbs were poisonous like Europeans did with hemlock. Edit: quick Google suggests they had ready access to arsenic too Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Apr 26, 2018 23:01
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“What things will kill you if you eat them” is such a civilisation prerequisite I can’t imagine anyone not discovering some poison.
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Apr 26, 2018 23:05
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My understanding is that if you go to anybody who routinely forages for food (so including all hunter gatherers) they'll have basically an encyclopedic knowledge of all the local plant life. China was obviously made of farmers, not hunter-gatherers during the period in question but the knowledge of the most noteworthy useful and dangerous plants should stick around pretty well.
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Apr 26, 2018 23:10
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Gaius Marius posted:I keep reading about Chinese emperors having people kill themselves with poison, and it makes me wonder. Do we know what kind of poison they made them drink? A different kind of poison than the Emperors also drank
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Apr 26, 2018 23:12
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It was actually just water, served cold.
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Apr 26, 2018 23:14
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Probably not true, but a fun story: allegedly the Chinese would put venomous scorpions, snakes, and centipedes in a sealed jar where they'd kill and devour each other. The last survivor would therefore be extra potent and toxic and used to create poisons. It's the classics. Hemlock, arsenic, poison arrow tree Antiaris toxicaria, oleander.
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Apr 27, 2018 00:03
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Mantis42 posted:It was actually just water, served cold. History's greatest monsters if true.
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Apr 27, 2018 01:23
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Jerusalem posted:This raises so many questions - why the attack? For what purpose if not for money/plunder? Why did nobody ever bother to give them a proper burial? Were they disliked/hated by the locals? It doesn't seem like they were intruders themselves. Maybe it was just an indiscriminate attack with no actual purpose behind it, which is also pretty scary to think about. No need to be scared, all you need to do is avoid pissing off the Beastfolk too much and sacrifice to Urox once in a while to keep chaos creatures from infesting your tula.
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Apr 27, 2018 06:40
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It was a plague. The Axe Plague. Symptoms include fever, sweating, broken bones, death, and axe wounds to the face. Highly contagious. Sounds like there was an axe maniac on the loose.
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Apr 27, 2018 08:27
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:No need to be scared, all you need to do is avoid pissing off the Beastfolk too much and sacrifice to Urox once in a while to keep chaos creatures from infesting your tula. That’s it, they must have hosed with the ducks
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Apr 27, 2018 11:05
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skasion posted:That’s it, they must have hosed with the ducks Did you know that there are (were) no mammals in New Zealand? Just avians, filling in all the normal mammal roles.
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Apr 27, 2018 11:22
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The Lone Badger posted:Did you know that there are (were) no mammals in New Zealand? Just avians, filling in all the normal mammal roles. 
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Apr 27, 2018 11:36
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Regarding Sandby Borg, the article claims it is likely many of the islands inhabitants were ex soldiers of Rome. Was this common for Norse at the time? How about other peoples fairly far from the empire? E: the basis of this claim seems to be a large amount of Roman coins, many of which were recently minted. This seems like a pretty speculative interpretation of the evidence to me. Vaginal Vagrant fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Apr 27, 2018 13:53
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If the presence of a lot of Roman coins meant a Roman settlement, then Romans were living all down the African coast to Zanzibar and east into Vietnam. I do not agree with that interpretation at all. There were probably scattered Roman merchants living all across Eurasiafrica but not large settlements. Roman trade routes reached well into Scandinavia and virtually every nearby culture used Roman coins since they were of reliable quality.
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Apr 27, 2018 13:59
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The claim was that Norse people travelled south, served in the Roman military, then returned. Now that I take a second, they're saying these are Varangians it seems. I've been reading some terrible Roman invasion of Britain schlock so was focused there as the nearest point in my sleep deprived state. E: Didn't I want to say Diocletian extend citizenship to retired auxillia? I don't know how the Varangians were classed but could this plausibly have been a settlement with a high number of Roman citizens? Vaginal Vagrant fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Apr 27, 2018 14:47
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Why would anyone who had Roman citizenship move back to Scandinavia at a time when everybody who didn't have it was moving in and taking over Roman territory? The coins are almost definitely just a medium of exchange like they were all over Europe at the time, there's no reason to read into it. As for Varangians, the destruction of Sandby Borg predates their appearance by several hundred years. The thing with Norse people going back and forth between home and the ERE only got going after they mastered navigating the rivers of Eastern Europe in the 8th century. The inhabitants there were emphatically not Vikings yet.
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Apr 27, 2018 15:09
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Didn't roman coins end up in decent numbers all the way to China? Because they controlled a huge chunk of Eurasia's working silver mines iirc?
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Apr 27, 2018 16:43
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Rome and China were the hubs of Old World trade so you find Roman poo poo everywhere. Not as much Chinese stuff turns up because mostly they were selling silk, which doesn't survive very well. Roman coins and glass are a lot more durable.
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Apr 27, 2018 17:23
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This has probably been asked before, but why were Caesar's Commentaries written in the third person? Was it considered normal or common to do that for autobiographies, or more humble, or did it somehow make for better PR to sound like you're writing about someone else?
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Apr 27, 2018 21:51
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Tomn posted:This has probably been asked before, but why were Caesar's Commentaries written in the third person? Was it considered normal or common to do that for autobiographies, or more humble, or did it somehow make for better PR to sound like you're writing about someone else? It was customary to read things out loud.
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Apr 27, 2018 21:56
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I don’t think anyone knows for certain why Caesar did it. It wasn’t unique to him: Xenophon’s Anabasis does the same thing. But neither was it a universal practice. It may have been considered more appropriate given that most of the intended audience were going to be normal Romans hearing the book read out loud (ie the guy narrating to them would not be Caesar) or it may have just been a rhetorical tactic to portray things more objectively.
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Apr 27, 2018 23:48
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I think it was clearly intended to be “reports from the front “ read aloud in forums across Italy.
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Apr 27, 2018 23:52
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That plus making it sound like it's someone else telling you how great Caesar is rather than Caesar himself. But yeah don't picture it as a book, picture the newsreader guy from Rome shouting it at the forum between bread ads.
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Apr 28, 2018 04:26
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Caesar always speaking in the 3rd person is my favourite Asterix joke.
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Apr 28, 2018 20:18
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FreudianSlippers posted:Caesar always speaking in the 3rd person is my favourite Asterix joke. The Asterix comics were my first (and I suspect many other kids') exposure to ancient Rome and I think they still hold up pretty wonderfully today. I loved all the Caesar jokes so much. 
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Apr 29, 2018 04:41
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Jerusalem posted:The Asterix comics were my first (and I suspect many other kids') exposure to ancient Rome and I think they still hold up pretty wonderfully today. I loved all the Caesar jokes so much. My favorite in-joke is in "Asterix in Switzerland", where people swim in/fall into the lake multiple times, and the Helvetians always explain that yes, Caesar did destroy the bridge, but they already rebuilt it. The reference is to an early part of "De bello gallico": C. Iulius Caesar posted:Caesari cum id nuntiatum esset eos per provinciam nostram iter facere conari, maturat ab urbe proficisci et quam maximis potest itineribus in Galliam ulteriorem contendit et ad Genavam pervenit. provinciae toti quam maximum potest militum numerum imperat ‑ erat omnino in Gallia ulteriore legio una ‑ ; pontem, qui erat ad Genavam, iubet rescindi.
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Apr 29, 2018 07:51
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Lemme just read that Latin... Hmm yes
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